Kemusan - Game Over

[RH9]

reading up now.
will respond to questions later.

[fferyllt]

I’m imagining everyone dancing rn, and ff just walks in and walks to the center, no rhythm, no groove, just straight business not even their dress shoes clicking together when they turn to address the crowd, not even cheese.

So what does it mean when I take the center, and do NOT blend in?

That you’re me at my absolute dorkiest.

I hardly ever choose to blend in as town. I don't need a reply but I believe you should think about our prior games.

[RH9]

it won't hurt if I propose also to cakez, right?

idk how i feel about this trend of high players being placed high on readslists for no good reason
or is there another reason u tr cakez besides him being relaxed

i'm actually null for cakez. my reason for suggesting if i should pair with him was so that i could try to sort him in our dance pt but then i remembered my last game with him as i brought up in 791.

[RH9]

last dance game to be clear

[RH9]

the only problem is that the last time i was in a dance game with cakez, we were paired and never used our dance pt at all.
so not sure if being in a pair with cakez will actually be helpful, minus if i convince myself cakez is definitely town.

What was Cakez' alignment in that game?

from memory, town.

[Bell]

I’m confused why they’d have that argument if FB is scum.
You see, if he was scum it would be bad for him to leave.

If she'a town he wants to leave, no? If anything agreeing to stay until second dance is townie

Huh? If they leave they die right? That’s bad for their win condition.

[RH9]

RH9:

what strategy/criteria are you using to choose the ladies you've invited to dance with so far?

the same that i've advised skittter to use.

[fferyllt]

RH9:

what strategy/criteria are you using to choose the ladies you've invited to dance with so far?

the same that i've advised skittter to use.

Why did you want to pair with Ydra?

[RH9]

rereading swinger's hall, it seems cakez isn't as adverse to using pts as i thought.

propose dance with cakez

p-edit: because she's ic?

[RH9]

anyways gtg now

[skitter30]

I’m confused why they’d have that argument if FB is scum.
You see, if he was scum it would be bad for him to leave.

If she'a town he wants to leave, no? If anything agreeing to stay until second dance is townie

Huh? If they leave they die right? That’s bad for their win condition.

I'm kinda doubtful fire as either alignment lasts till endgame

[Bell]

Y

[fferyllt]

Skitter you've seen parts of Firebringer's interactions with me as bussing. And you have said that he's scummy independent of me. Pretend it's second dance and I've flipped town and he hasn't flipped yet.

What does my green flip do to your thoughts about Firebringer?

[fferyllt]

p-edit: because she's ic?

And why do you want to pair with the IC?

[skitter30]

Y

I feel like he's likely to choose to leave at some point

Skitter you've seen parts of Firebringer's interactions with me as bussing. And you have said that he's scummy independent of me. Pretend it's second dance and I've flipped town and he hasn't flipped yet.

What does my green flip do to your thoughts about Firebringer?

It alleviates them a bit ig but i kinda think he's scummy independant of u now

[fferyllt]

Y

I feel like he's likely to choose to leave at some point

Skitter you've seen parts of Firebringer's interactions with me as bussing. And you have said that he's scummy independent of me. Pretend it's second dance and I've flipped town and he hasn't flipped yet.

What does my green flip do to your thoughts about Firebringer?

It alleviates them a bit ig but i kinda think he's scummy independant of u now

How does it alleviate them?

[skitter30]

Because if you're town he isn't bussing you, and part of the present scumread is that his early interactions with you felt svs

And if ur town that isnt a thing so that reason for scumreading him isnt really there anymore

(I'm not sure what answer ur looking for from.this question)

[Firebringer]

have i said skitter very town enough yet

[fferyllt]

Because if you're town he isn't bussing you, and part of the present scumread is that his early interactions with you felt svs

And if ur town that isnt a thing so that reason for scumreading him isnt really there anymore

(I'm not sure what answer ur looking for from.this question)

There's a lot of scumreading swirling around me. I'm trying to sift out the genuine from the opportunistic, and think about what a weak scum team would be doing about now, too.

Firebringer's read feels genuine to me, however wrong. I'm not sure about yours.

I think it comes down to what kind of scum team we have here.

[skitter30]

Ok, why are you unsure mine is genuine?
And what does the last sentance mean?

[fferyllt]

Ok, why are you unsure mine is genuine?
And what does the last sentance mean?

I have to look like a very juicy "miselim" to right now. You came into the game and went straight to the flaming dumpster file.

It could be a genuine read, but I'm not sure.

[fferyllt]

And the last sentence was about where on the continuum between scary-strong and weak/hesitant this scum team falls.

[RCEnigma]

Because if you're town he isn't bussing you, and part of the present scumread is that his early interactions with you felt svs

And if ur town that isnt a thing so that reason for scumreading him isnt really there anymore

(I'm not sure what answer ur looking for from.this question)

There's a lot of scumreading swirling around me. I'm trying to sift out the genuine from the opportunistic, and think about what a weak scum team would be doing about now, too.

Firebringer's read feels genuine to me, however wrong. I'm not sure about yours.

I think it comes down to what kind of scum team we have here.

I think the playerlist is strong enough all around that scum will have some percentage of dangerous players.

I guess motivations also come down to how strong the town team is. Which is why I’m not willing to throw away the idea that FB could be scum here. If LLD is one of the strongest threats to the scum team, 1 for 1 isn’t the absolute worst case scenario. I will give FB some leeway however since the same could be accomplished with another scum player.

[skitter30]

Sure, kinda surprised nobody complained abt that yet
Still think you're scummy tho
I'm a little less imminently concerned abt you tho since you've paired with cabd and he's indicated he is planning on not surviving till endgame with you

Pedit can you elaborate more on that, namely:
* how do you think the strength of the scumteam affects how you would be read by them?

[fferyllt]

Sure, kinda surprised nobody complained abt that yet
Still think you're scummy tho
I'm a little less imminently concerned abt you tho since you've paired with cabd and he's indicated he is planning on not surviving till endgame with you

Pedit can you elaborate more on that, namely:
* how do you think the strength of the scumteam affects how you would be read by them?

It affects how they position around me. That's the data channel I'm looking for atm.

One mastermind on the team can go a long way and can build a lot of esprit de corps. Two or three strong players can make the approach much more multifaceted and above all natural looking.