Kemusan - Game Over

[Firebringer]

VOTE: lld/fire

I will be around marginally today/tomorrow, will actually be around tomorrow night

This is pointless and u know it. Me and LLD aren't going to be around for endgame.

Because you're going to leave? If you give a firm deadline of like: we will leave by X pair i don't have to vote you now, otherwise i will

If game isn't over and theres 4 pairs alive, i am leaving

[Gypyx]

Likw i don't think that was lol-leaving from enchant

I wouldn't put it past enchant to do that lol leave without a plan.

But yes leaning to that scum wanted to get rid of IC pair early, even though I don't think Ydra/RH9 is much of a threat (no offense to both)

maybe it's just cause Ydra hasn't been around much? like, silence her before she can speak sorta deal

[skitter30]

I think scum has to be in someone cabd thinks can/will carry this, so either someone like lld or someone who is ridiculously townread

Pedit yeah so did i

Thats ur pair

Which way

well right now i think STD paired with u because thinks ur less likely to get scrutiny and im assuming ur town even though ur defense of FIR did look informed to me.

You think std is the scum in my pair ... ok interesting, i was assuming you thought i was. I think i'm kinda likely to get scrutiny so this is a take

And wrt fire: i mean i can see that argument but i think i was basically right: scum literally didnt care, either enchant would be out, or he would leave. It didn't matter what fire did

[Firebringer]

maybe it's just cause Ydra hasn't been around much? like, silence her before she can speak sorta deal

Yeah but its not like Ydra reads are more accurate than any other town. Maybe she worried about her being able to sort some of the players in scum team?

[HolySpiritTurtle]

But yes leaning to that scum wanted to get rid of IC pair early, even though I don't think Ydra/RH9 is much of a threat (no offense to both)

Yeah I fully expected to die.

[Firebringer]

ydra is pretty decent town player but ive pocketed her a few times as scum so i am not worried myself about her.

[Bell]

This is a mess and i'm annoyed abt the present state of this game

I’m not. Enchant really should not have killed themselves there, they’re going for soft advantages in exchange for hard ones.
Then again, I’m bad scum and Cabd is not, so.

I'm kinda assuminv that was planned by the team overall, no?

Likw i don't think that was lol-leaving from enchant

I hope it wasn’t, but with enchant it’s hard to know for sure lol.

[skitter30]

I think from like mid-pairing stage that was a plan

Cabd/ffery would leave
Enchant if possible would take out another pair to force night
Where the ic/town pair would die

Putting us in second dance without the ic's thoughts
And i'm assuming someone who can carry is scum
I am looking at like fire/lld and bizarrwly hst b/c idk who else cabd thinks carries

Sadly bell is town

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Because I am clearly a pro mafia player.
Totally.

[skitter30]

*that was scum's plan

Like to me both leaving was p obviously coordinated, idk how else to interpret how this game has gone

[Firebringer]

me and LLD talked about who should be the final pair, because we only need one strong town pair to win the game.

I argued about HST/Bell - she was hesitant on HST.
I think she believes Spiffeh/Gypyx is the town pair for us to trust.
She can correct me on anything im saying wrong here

[skitter30]

VOTE: lld/fire

I will be around marginally today/tomorrow, will actually be around tomorrow night

This is pointless and u know it. Me and LLD aren't going to be around for endgame.

Because you're going to leave? If you give a firm deadline of like: we will leave by X pair i don't have to vote you now, otherwise i will

If game isn't over and theres 4 pairs alive, i am leaving

Fine
But i am holding you to it

UNVOTE:

[skitter30]

Cabd's read on spiffeh/gypyx is bizarre and i can't tell if it's meant to be clearing, or to make them look associated with him, or what

[Firebringer]

does anyone disagree with me that Bell/HST is town pair

[Gypyx]

me and LLD talked about who should be the final pair, because we only need one strong town pair to win the game.

I argued about HST/Bell - she was hesitant on HST.
I think she believes Spiffeh/Gypyx is the town pair for us to trust.
She can correct me on anything im saying wrong here

the pressure

for the record while i'm not actively doubtful of spiffeh i'm a bit wary in that he wasn't really bleeding town feelings to me in the hood

[skitter30]

does anyone disagree with me that Bell/HST is town pair

Bell is town idk abt hst
Idk if i bet the game on it

[Spiffeh]

Hi

I’m actually weary of HST (not Bell) only because I expected that pair to die but I guess scum prioritizing a pair that includes the IC makes sense.

I also have some words regarding Gypyx that I will devote time to when I’m not phone-posting

[HolySpiritTurtle]

I think from like mid-pairing stage that was a plan

Cabd/ffery would leave
Enchant if possible would take out another pair to force night
Where the ic/town pair would die

Putting us in second dance without the ic's thoughts
And i'm assuming someone who can carry is scum
I am looking at like fire/lld and bizarrwly hst b/c idk who else cabd thinks carries

Sadly bell is town

What's wrong with Bell being town? Other than blatantly shaming me.

[skitter30]

It's entirely about how i'm suspicious of you now

[HolySpiritTurtle]

I expected that pair to die

Oh your guess is good as mine.
I and Bell were dooming and glooming and going for brownie points after ascending to dead PT.
Except that I wouldn't have gotten one because RH9 flipped town.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Skitter thinking that Cabd thinks I can carry this when I had a whole argument with Firebringer about this shit is wild.

I'm good at scum, this is not scum this is townblocking mixed with clique forming, the game.

I have been right for a large portion of this game and no one has wanted to listen. FB has already made ot clear we are dying but if I can kill a scum here I get to shoot again, essentially.

Like, the first time I hit T/T with an elim I am getting nuked, so my goal is to make it to endgame alive by killing both scum.

Here are my thoughts.

There is no S/S pairing.
Cabd trusted his game to someone in the overall town PoE. At least one, maybe two.
The plan to have enchant and cabd suicide to deny info means that people who tried to protect Enchant from being left out of the dance by me are majorly suspect.

[skitter30]

Fire/lld - actually kind of think fire is town based on this phase, but lld needs to die by endgame

Bell/hst - bell is town, idk abt hst

Spiffeh/gypyx - no idea

Rce/cakez - gun to head town but i'm not betting the game on it

Std - i guess town

At least one of the scum is someone cabd thinks can carry, either because of skill, or because they're basically universally townread, and i don't think that's a lot of names on this list

I think the last scum is very heavily dependant on who that first scum is

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So what I am going to do is list names Cabd could concievably see as a carry (I know him better than anyone remaining here) and then look at who amongst the player list pushed to keep Enchant in the dance.

Because we lost a whole elimination because Firered didn't listen to me. If enchant was left out we would have had info AND an voted Elim. No shot scum goes down THREE scum with that suicide plan.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What is wild to me is people saying I need to die by endgame when that was already a known take and how that shit is pure paranoia because I LITERALLY ADVOCATED FOR A GAME WINNING PLAY FOR US OVER AND OVER AGAIN

And people used my lack of power to shove it in my face. Fuck Enchant literally did the cheeky scum thing of pointing out how little power I had I pointed at the post and no one gave a shit

[skitter30]

Ok i gotta bounce
Lld i am very happy to discuss tomorrow night, won't be around till then

Pedit my list is you, hst and like maybe (?) bell or fire (maybe me from your pov)

I don't think he entrusts the game to anyone else
But the same thought process is encouraging!