Kemusan - Game Over

[HolySpiritTurtle]

2229's list is probably full of WIFOM, but it contains all of our names except for Bell's.
2232 is LLD yelling at Gypyx for not grasping at Cabd's plan. The amount of "you're dumb" in that post is exaggerated. Potential distancing attempt?
2234 is LLD telling Spiffeh to go look at who did and who didn't want Enchant left out. Hmm.
2237 and 2238 are LLD telling me that I scummed myself. To be honest, I still don't get what exactly made me "scum" there.
2336 is LLD accepting Bell's paranoia of her. Doesn't she normally go kinda "you're dumb if you're doubting me?" I don't actually recall any LLD-scumgame so someone verify this for me.
2378 and 2380 are LLD complaining to Bell. This is probably a null moment.

I guess I won't find much here. I think she spreaded out associatives pretty well.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

With that said, I'll try to re-scan the game again, but for all this time Bell was pretty much my locktown read, and I honestly don't see myself changing that. That reaction test was my last spec of doubt I had on him, and he passed it with flying color.

ok now i'm really curious what you mean by "passed it with flying colors" cause if that's what happened sounds like the bar was really low

It was a very low bar for Bell. As I said, I didn't really doubt Bell. But I did feel like I still had to do some sort of double checking for the sake of double checking. Clearly putting a naked vote on someone who were basically being universally townread would damage his towncred. If Bell was that deepscum I think he wouldn't take any chances (town-Bell probably would have a reason too tbh). Instead he went along with it just fine.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

The really only thing that interests me in Enchant's posts is how they called Spiffeh town while they were calling literally everyone else scum. It probably doesn't mean much, but it's interesting.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

I'll do Cabd ones later.

[Bell]

HST scum: Refrained from defending FF, they largely took the same position as LLD to avoid saying anything. They were right, but because they had their reasons, they didn't need to engage the thread as much or put themselves in conflict with other players. Best of both worlds for scum them. Asked what happened in the neighborhood after enchant left feigning surprise that the thread was suddenly closed after they flipped. They insisted that Cabd's play was good because it derailed their whole internal strategy around FF, woops have to start over again! HST town bins LLD for a single mind meld for way too long, hoping that LLD comes back and starts towning it up. They never do, but oh well! You can't just change positions on that, they'll say something generic about how LLD was going down in their reads because they aren't posting.

Which yes. They should be going down in your reads if they aren't posting.
They suggest a division of labor, deciding on their own that I should engage LLD while they engage skitter, this is lower risk for HST. I am not an LLD specialist and I'm unsure if I've played more with LLD than they have. They have two town games with Skitter so the division doesn't really have a sense of town motivation to it. Makes an RH9 read, knowing that, hey, they're ahead already in town's books but they need to get even more ahead because they'll take a dip when we survive to the next day.

I've hydra'd with HST and they don't talk to me the way they did in my neighborhood as they do when we hydra'd together, there is always a performance in the neighborhood that is simply absent from our hydra games together. Usually HST is more jaded, cynical, and mercurial even in a hydra PT when they know my alignment for certain. They never fully trusted me, but they displayed that distrust through performance and a disinclination to engage or conflict with me. They did not truly challenge or disagree with my reads, they would simply dodge or not respond to them. Their reads largely progressed along their own axis and were largely static.

It's possible that how LLD interacted with me was done with HST communicating what I was saying to LLD. Though, on the otherhand, it's pretty strange that LLD decided to go through with the same plan even though I pretty much had said it.

They stated they had been town reading Skitter, but reversed and hadn't provided a rationale for Skitter town. Might as well me vague on it and save time on the specifics for their scum interpretation of it, since that's where they were going to go next.

Their reaction test and how they sorted me is far too credulous, I said sure let's do it, then did it. That was it. I did nothing more. It wasn't significant. It's entirely possible that they need to take a certain position and are coming up with the rationale afterward to explain it.

They spend time complaining about how neighborhoods are really messing with their vibe, man, in lieu of talking about what they can control because it's easier to complain about the set up than to hunt and they would totally be fixated on this fact as town. But I tend to think that this sort of repeated engagement with a mechanic of the game is focused more when you're scum trying to convince yourself of your own narrative than because it's actually flabbergasting them. Likewise, they never proactively ask people how they're doing in the neighborhood. They state this is because they're usually passive and love to watch people and how they react. But they're proactive in creating reaction tests and plans to sort others, but they didn't use that proactivity to dig into people's neighborhoods.

The role PM town confirmation, I already made a large post about and noted that, this check is largely consequence free for HST. There aren't any scenarios where HST risks themselves by asking for a set up question.
I can flub the answer and get myself killed or I can answer it well and town read them for asking it and get town read by others for asking it.

[Bell]

To note, I have hesitation on killing HST because FF was like, "They're totally town Bell and don't you fucking dare change your fucking mind about this"

I may be paraphrasing slightly.

and I'm like,

Mea culpa Seer FF, I cannot help it, it's in my nature to paranoia spiral.

[Bell]

That said, I haven't really engaged with Gypyx's play this game, so it's kind of like, looking at a single player and deducing they must be scum because the other player doesn't exist.

To note: HST as scum checks in with Cabd and LLD but does their own thing.
Gypyx as scum is coached by the two, I believe her approach to me is largely obsequious with bursts of rebellion that almost feels kind of harmless, it's like spunk without the edge, or like, a commercial about rebellion through buying our shoes. It's sanitized.

[Bell]

HST town: Everything is simple and straight forward. Everything they've done in this game is outwardly townie with subtle things that might not be so townie, but they can be explained by indolence(HECK YEAH THIS IS MY FAVORITE SCUM READ) or idiosyncrasy.

Except for the reaction test,
that sort of seemed like a waste of time, but literally, what do I know about scum hunting?(seriously what do I know about it?)

[Bell]

i feel dead.

[Bell]

I reviewed the first 20 posts from Gypyx.
No notes.
Looks fine.

So like, do you guys wanna vote me or

I joking.
I try more.

[Bell]

…. :/

[Bell]

Really not seeing much. Maybe she was puppeted but her posting didn’t really change between day 1 and day 2.

[Bell]

HST however had a ball to carry and they showed up for it.

[Bell]

I so proud.
Proud of HST, you got over your scum block.
All it took was the entire scum team investing in you inexplicably.

Oh wait, no that makes sense.
I mean they were’t going to have enchant carry were they.

[Bell]

I sad at the discrepancy in effort.
Life not fair.

[Bell]

Seriously though I’m going to read gypyx and not just leave suddenly.

However if possible scum HST would like me to stop, they can take me home.

I’m just exhausted. Not much sleep, school work, work, work. Play work. Mafia work.

Workworkworkwork.

[Bell]

I’m out of gas is the issue here.
:/

[Bell]

By the way I'm glad that some of y'all think I'm someone who's able to carry as scum.

[Bell]

No, actually I do need to look.

Sigh. This isn't as clear as I think.

[Gypyx]

I’m out of gas is the issue here.
:/

we still have 2.5 days to choose stuff Bell, don't overwork yourself pls

[Bell]

Hello my baby, hello my honey, hello my rag-time boy
Send me a kiss my sire, setting my heart on fire
If you refuse me you’re gonna lose me then you’ll be left alone oh baby
Dance with me and tell me I’m your own

HST posted this in our discord. Before the game. Which is why I knew who it was.
That or it was an awful coincidence.

[Bell]

Not the words, just the video.

[Bell]

I'm all ears.

I was just crying into my notes PT about my severe lack of reads a little while ago

Also, I knew and Bell would dance the minute I saw you /in

If you hear them, you might end up being even more depressed. Do you proceed?

Yes.

I have a guttown read on LLD and a townlean on Cabd for some unorthodox reason.

explain yourself on cabd NOW

Man, I'm never going to quite understand who is scum in this photo.

Is it that HST was town leaning both scum initially before hiding the read.

Or the fact Gypyx jumped down their throat? I initially thought it looked informed, but I'm not really sure.
What caused such an intense reaction from you gypyx?

[Gypyx]

i wanted to do something mildly funny

i also really didn't see whatever was townie with cabd so i kinda was curious of whatever HST was seeing

[Bell]

I don't have much of a read on Enchant but I will say that of everyone his entrance seemed the most desperate to lock in a pairing early, which is kind of how I expected scum to approach this game. I haven't really sensed any desperation from him recently though, and I'd expect scum to become more and more anxious to pair as the options start being limited.

I also kind of agree with whoever said that RCE not really trying to lock in a pair for himself doesn't quite align with him being scum.

I'm wondering if this is just something I just shouldn't take into consideration because I don't feel like thinking too hard about it

Good.