Open 904: DE Runs a Marathon Setup in the Open Queue [Completed]

[DragonEater70]

VC 1.19

Votecount 1.19

usesPython (3):

Political Clout, Black, Dannflor

[E-2]

tris (2):

Ranger, usesPython

Ranger (1):

tris

Not Voting (3):

JupiterXV, hellbooks, fireisredsir

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in

(expired on 2024-02-22 13:41:49)

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Mod notes:

• I'm going to be V/LA from now until Sunday, so nightstart and daystart might both be delayed by up to a few hours, but most likely won't.

[Dannflor]

okay but why are you assuming scum would not be bussing and it's impossible to flip scum D1

[usesPython]

VC 1.19

Votecount 1.19

Ranger (2):

tris, usesPython

usesPython (2):

Political Clout, Dannflor

tris (1):

Ranger

Not Voting (4):

JupiterXV, Black, hellbooks, fireisredsir

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in

(expired on 2024-02-22 13:41:49)

.

Mod notes:

• I'm going to be V/LA from now until Sunday, so nightstart and daystart might both be delayed by up to a few hours, but most likely won't.

we're voting for tris

Fixed, thanks.

[usesPython]

okay but why are you assuming scum would not be bussing and it's impossible to flip scum D1

we have literally been the main wagon for like the past 10+ pages, what do you think?

[Dannflor]

you held this belief before you were the main wagon

[Dannflor]

and im pretty sure you are the only one who has voiced anti-support for a Ranger wagon

[Dannflor]

you pulled at this very same logic in Friends and Enemies where you assumed where a bunch of people's reads were locked in at and made a show of being like "welp im dead i don't have the numbers"

that feels like a very... idk, incurious way to play the game

[usesPython]

you held this belief before you were the main wagon

Before we were the main wagon the gamestate was split enough that scum could very easily justify not voting for their partner enough to force a town lim through

[usesPython]

you pulled at this very same logic in Friends and Enemies where you assumed where a bunch of people's reads were locked in at and made a show of being like "welp im dead i don't have the numbers"

that feels like a very... idk, incurious way to play the game

The emotions behind the frenemies post were real (STD was like half an exception since they couldn't believable justify moving their vote off)

[usesPython]

and im pretty sure you are the only one who has voiced anti-support for a Ranger wagon

VOTE: jacksonvirgo let me just fill in for you tris

UNVOTE: see yall tomorrow
what a day

explicit support is irrelevant, even something like this is enough

[usesPython]

Dann how do you normally kill people/not get killed during the day as scum

[usesPython]

not like in general I'm talking you specifically

[usesPython]

you too fire

[hellbooks]

sorry what did i do
what should i be doing
i dont understand
did i do a bad job

[Dannflor]

you unvoted ranger so that means you will not vote ranger again

[usesPython]

sorry what did i do
what should i be doing
i dont understand
did i do a bad job

You're being used as an example of the minimum level of doubt necessary for a townie to have on a slot for scum to get away with not bussing their teammate, it's more a commentary on the setup than you in particular

[Dannflor]

Dann how do you normally kill people/not get killed during the day as scum

varies? i wouldn't say my goal is always to not get killed as scum

i usually try to figure out who will be the best elimination for furthering my win condition and work my way towards making that happen in one way or another

[fireisredsir]

you too fire

i don't think there's like a general formula, it's highly dependent on the gamestate + what the planned path to victory is + who's in the game

idk what the question is exactly it seems kind of broad (adj). like you're basically asking "how do you play scum" so im not sure what you're trying to get at since im guessing that's not your point

[usesPython]

Dann how do you normally kill people/not get killed during the day as scum

varies? i wouldn't say my goal is always to not get killed as scum

i usually try to figure out who will be the best elimination for furthering my win condition and work my way towards making that happen in one way or another

not talking about how you pick someone, im talking about the techniques you use to get a person you picked killed

[usesPython]

you unvoted ranger so that means you will not vote ranger again

[Ranger]

is that because you scum read us, or something specific about the wagons?

Both.

I happen to know one of the wagons is on town and I believe both are.

In TvT wagons, scum are usually not going to be gathered exclusively on one. I townread all except you on the JV wagon; I don't think the Python wagon is very sus; I don't think Jupiter's particularly sus as Not Voting. So there's a very good chance it's 1-1-1.

[Dannflor]

there are lots of ways, why

[hellbooks]

VOTE: Ranger

[Dannflor]

wow omg what

[usesPython]

there are lots of ways, why

Got the feeling you and fire employ more "directly convince people" over "force people to compromise" and was hoping to use rhetorical techniques to make the point that we're specialized in the opposite hit harder