In post 417, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
This game has so much information packed into 17 pages it's making my head spin. Sorry, I don't have time to detangle it right now.
However, it wouldn't hurt to give an ordered list based on feels.
From town to scum: Cuddle, Klick, Erinys, Gimli, Aureal, Tao, Dan, Rat, Drew.
Welcome! Can you explain what the feels are based on? Did you skim the whole game, read a few pages, or what?
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
-furtiveglance
My thoughts on the red herring signaling thing are like... It's a delicate balance, it's SUPER delicate. Both the Assistant and Followers will want to signal who they are to the Detective and Kira respectively but when scum has to correctly signal to and identify each other to be cohesive, town is going to be on high alert for that, and likewise with Detective/Assistant and scum. This one would like to think it can do better to signal to Kira "hey im a follower!! yahoo!!" than latching onto Gimli, especially if Gimli were my Kira. The main benefit to Kira-Follower identification is both not wasting Kira's time with failed kills, and more importantly: Shinigami Eyes. Last time we condemned a Follower D1 and detective died and we had to scramble to find Kira but in the long haul of a full 5 days, Followers do NOT want to stick their necks out, because it means less chances of successful identification of the Detective, and less time to prove yourself to Kira. If Kira has both Followers figured out and one blurts out "Hey [Player]'s visible name is fake, it's [Name]" then that's gg unless we catch Kira the next day. This isn't actually very relevant to anything right now other than "we should probably look harder for non-surface level signaling" and guys PLEASE ME TRUST ME ITS NOT SIGNALING THIS ONE WAS JUST FUCKING AROUND WITH GIMLI
not a person, just a doll~
this one refers to itself in the third person Get To Know A Doll
In post 427, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
My thoughts on the red herring signaling thing are like... It's a delicate balance, it's SUPER delicate. Both the Assistant and Followers will want to signal who they are to the Detective and Kira respectively but when scum has to correctly signal to and identify each other to be cohesive, town is going to be on high alert for that, and likewise with Detective/Assistant and scum. This one would like to think it can do better to signal to Kira "hey im a follower!! yahoo!!" than latching onto Gimli, especially if Gimli were my Kira. The main benefit to Kira-Follower identification is both not wasting Kira's time with failed kills, and more importantly: Shinigami Eyes. Last time we condemned a Follower D1 and detective died and we had to scramble to find Kira but in the long haul of a full 5 days, Followers do NOT want to stick their necks out, because it means less chances of successful identification of the Detective, and less time to prove yourself to Kira. If Kira has both Followers figured out and one blurts out "Hey [Player]'s visible name is fake, it's [Name]" then that's gg unless we catch Kira the next day. This isn't actually very relevant to anything right now other than "we should probably look harder for non-surface level signaling" and guys PLEASE ME TRUST ME ITS NOT SIGNALING THIS ONE WAS JUST FUCKING AROUND WITH GIMLI
and also to try and coalesce this unhinged ramble into something tangible: This one has incognito, and put it on Gimli, which is only useful if this one is town with him (not that it can know if it IS town
with
him) as Kira has no need to put it on someone else and Followers have no need to put it on Kira as they probably aren't getting killed in like 2 days. Similarly, Followers wouldn't put it on themselves as they have fake names, same with Detective. This is really more NAI than anything but unless you think this one big brained enough to think about this pre-game then its also simultaneously moreso towny.
not a person, just a doll~
this one refers to itself in the third person Get To Know A Doll
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 417, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
This game has so much information packed into 17 pages it's making my head spin. Sorry, I don't have time to detangle it right now.
However, it wouldn't hurt to give an ordered list based on feels.
From town to scum: Cuddle, Klick, Erinys, Gimli, Aureal, Tao, Dan, Rat, Drew.
Welcome! Can you explain what the feels are based on? Did you skim the whole game, read a few pages, or what?
I want to meet the 5th Drew. He sounds like a fun guy.
Nah you don't, the 5th Drew hates whiskey and is always about srz bizness
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 427, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
My thoughts on the red herring signaling thing are like... It's a delicate balance, it's SUPER delicate. Both the Assistant and Followers will want to signal who they are to the Detective and Kira respectively but when scum has to correctly signal to and identify each other to be cohesive, town is going to be on high alert for that, and likewise with Detective/Assistant and scum. This one would like to think it can do better to signal to Kira "hey im a follower!! yahoo!!" than latching onto Gimli, especially if Gimli were my Kira. The main benefit to Kira-Follower identification is both not wasting Kira's time with failed kills, and more importantly: Shinigami Eyes. Last time we condemned a Follower D1 and detective died and we had to scramble to find Kira but in the long haul of a full 5 days, Followers do NOT want to stick their necks out, because it means less chances of successful identification of the Detective, and less time to prove yourself to Kira. If Kira has both Followers figured out and one blurts out "Hey [Player]'s visible name is fake, it's [Name]" then that's gg unless we catch Kira the next day. This isn't actually very relevant to anything right now other than "we should probably look harder for non-surface level signaling" and guys PLEASE ME TRUST ME ITS NOT SIGNALING THIS ONE WAS JUST FUCKING AROUND WITH GIMLI
and also to try and coalesce this unhinged ramble into something tangible: This one has incognito, and put it on Gimli, which is only useful if this one is town with him (not that it can know if it IS town
with
him) as Kira has no need to put it on someone else and Followers have no need to put it on Kira as they probably aren't getting killed in like 2 days. Similarly, Followers wouldn't put it on themselves as they have fake names, same with Detective. This is really more NAI than anything but unless you think this one big brained enough to think about this pre-game then its also simultaneously moreso towny.
In post 417, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
This game has so much information packed into 17 pages it's making my head spin. Sorry, I don't have time to detangle it right now.
However, it wouldn't hurt to give an ordered list based on feels.
From town to scum: Cuddle, Klick, Erinys, Gimli, Aureal, Tao, Dan, Rat, Drew.
This seems contradicting. So much information that you don't have time to go through it, yet you're able to give a reads list in order.
In post 417, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
This game has so much information packed into 17 pages it's making my head spin. Sorry, I don't have time to detangle it right now.
However, it wouldn't hurt to give an ordered list based on feels.
From town to scum: Cuddle, Klick, Erinys, Gimli, Aureal, Tao, Dan, Rat, Drew.
This seems contradicting. So much information that you don't have time to go through it, yet you're able to give a reads list in order.
I actually do enjoy that I am being scum read that much
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 435, Hu Tao wrote:
Hi Kira, I am your loyal follower. Please do not kill me at night. Thank you.
In post 436, Hu Tao wrote:
According to HPE I cannot be a follower as I would not want to stick my neck out.
See how weird that is?
Be pedantic (okay no, maybe not the right word. maliciously compliant?) about it all you want but that just seems like the play to make as town too, tbh. Hit Kira with the delicious WIFOM of "are they just actually fucking saying it out loud?? should i believe them?? What Are They Cooking???????". Followers can only be killed by Kira if assassinated or one erroneously says the name of the other thinking they're Detective. Trolling Kira by proclaiming you're a Follower and that Kira shouldn't waste time writing your name down is both funny and again, probably a valid strategy if done right. Of course its not foolproof because if you're not actively going "look how stupid saying that is thats so dumb ugh" and trying to rebuke me for reasons unknown then you're probably going to raise some eyebrows from town.
not a person, just a doll~
this one refers to itself in the third person Get To Know A Doll
In post 417, Little Will o' Wisp wrote:
This game has so much information packed into 17 pages it's making my head spin. Sorry, I don't have time to detangle it right now.
However, it wouldn't hurt to give an ordered list based on feels.
From town to scum: Cuddle, Klick, Erinys, Gimli, Aureal, Tao, Dan, Rat, Drew.
This seems contradicting. So much information that you don't have time to go through it, yet you're able to give a reads list in order.
I actually do enjoy that I am being scum read that much
FWIW this one didn't manage a proper catchup/refreshening but it did look at your ISO and think you were town
not a person, just a doll~
this one refers to itself in the third person Get To Know A Doll
In post 435, Hu Tao wrote:
Hi Kira, I am your loyal follower. Please do not kill me at night. Thank you.
In post 436, Hu Tao wrote:
According to HPE I cannot be a follower as I would not want to stick my neck out.
See how weird that is?
Be pedantic (okay no, maybe not the right word. maliciously compliant?) about it all you want but that just seems like the play to make as town too, tbh. Hit Kira with the delicious WIFOM of "are they just actually fucking saying it out loud?? should i believe them?? What Are They Cooking???????". Followers can only be killed by Kira if assassinated or one erroneously says the name of the other thinking they're Detective. Trolling Kira by proclaiming you're a Follower and that Kira shouldn't waste time writing your name down is both funny and again, probably a valid strategy if done right. Of course its not foolproof because if you're not actively going "look how stupid saying that is thats so dumb ugh" and trying to rebuke me for reasons unknown then you're probably going to raise some eyebrows from town.
In other words: Hu Tao thinks too small and therefore cannot be Kira.
not a person, just a doll~
this one refers to itself in the third person Get To Know A Doll
dont actually take this seriously btw this ones seen HT bring two scum games back from the brink basically solo and it wasnt lying in normal 2322 when it said it cant read her
not a person, just a doll~
this one refers to itself in the third person Get To Know A Doll
In post 427, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
My thoughts on the red herring signaling thing are like... It's a delicate balance, it's SUPER delicate. Both the Assistant and Followers will want to signal who they are to the Detective and Kira respectively but when scum has to correctly signal to and identify each other to be cohesive, town is going to be on high alert for that, and likewise with Detective/Assistant and scum. This one would like to think it can do better to signal to Kira "hey im a follower!! yahoo!!" than latching onto Gimli, especially if Gimli were my Kira. The main benefit to Kira-Follower identification is both not wasting Kira's time with failed kills, and more importantly: Shinigami Eyes. Last time we condemned a Follower D1 and detective died and we had to scramble to find Kira but in the long haul of a full 5 days, Followers do NOT want to stick their necks out, because it means less chances of successful identification of the Detective, and less time to prove yourself to Kira. If Kira has both Followers figured out and one blurts out "Hey [Player]'s visible name is fake, it's [Name]" then that's gg unless we catch Kira the next day. This isn't actually very relevant to anything right now other than "we should probably look harder for non-surface level signaling" and guys PLEASE ME TRUST ME ITS NOT SIGNALING THIS ONE WAS JUST FUCKING AROUND WITH GIMLI
and also to try and coalesce this unhinged ramble into something tangible: This one has incognito, and put it on Gimli, which is only useful if this one is town with him (not that it can know if it IS town
with
him) as Kira has no need to put it on someone else and Followers have no need to put it on Kira as they probably aren't getting killed in like 2 days. Similarly, Followers wouldn't put it on themselves as they have fake names, same with Detective. This is really more NAI than anything but unless you think this one big brained enough to think about this pre-game then its also simultaneously moreso towny.
okay
can you explain why incognito would be useful if you're town with me? granted I haven't read the setup yet
In post 378, Gimli wrote:
have a pretty busy day so I can't be around rn
I read the game before going to bed which served to strenghten my klick and cuddle townreads, especially the latter's scumcase on me is very towny. I did like RR's push on klick on a townposting level, as it came across as genuine.
HPE seems detached from the game and I'm ready to flip it (sorry for always flipping you though, HPE)
Gimliiiiiii
Stop pocketing meeeeee
It's not faaaaaaair!
Must resist pocket!
Can't resist pocket... UNVOTE:
But what if he's Kira? VOTE: Gimli
But what if he's not Kira and I am going to mislim him again and feel really bad? UNVOTE:
But you know you can vote Gimli without limming him, right?
Ugh, fine VOTE: Gimli
Alright, I will keep this vote until either Gimli posts more towny things or I find a better person to wagon. Or one of my other heads finds a better person to wagon.
Yes, I am aware that this is performative. That's kinda my thing. Doesn't mean it's not a true (albeit somewhat exaggerated) representation of my thoughts.
- Dragon
you're too cute, DE
question for you: if I'm kira, then who are my followers?
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
I'll tie your legs