Mini Theme 2328: Death Note: Second Page. Day 3!

[ActionDan]

Yes it was reunion. This is the only game I've ever played with either one of you.

VOTE: Klick

I give the nudge for Klick being a higher chance to be Kira than Gimli, though I think HPE has the highest chance to be scum. I am concerned our replacements will not have enough time to read up thoroughly

[HighPrincessErinys]

Also why can't I just be mimicking that? Or be the same as scum and town?

What are you even trying to say here? This barely has anything to do with AD's post.

[ActionDan]

Also why can't I just be mimicking that? Or be the same as scum and town?

Do you mean being underwhelming as town? Yes you can be mimicking that, and I think you likely are.

[Hu Tao]

Yes it was reunion. This is the only game I've ever played with either one of you.

VOTE: Klick

I give the nudge for Klick being a higher chance to be Kira than Gimli, though I think HPE has the highest chance to be scum. I am concerned our replacements will not have enough time to read up thoroughly

Okay. Well then I can understand that read. To be fair that game I thought I was gonna be culted so I didn't do much

[Hu Tao]

Also why can't I just be mimicking that? Or be the same as scum and town?

What are you even trying to say here? This barely has anything to do with AD's post.

Yes it does. I'm trying to understand their read of me

[Hu Tao]

Also why can't I just be mimicking that? Or be the same as scum and town?

Do you mean being underwhelming as town? Yes you can be mimicking that, and I think you likely are.

As in. Why can't I just be underwhelming as scum too. Why does this have to make me town

[ActionDan]

You could be scum too. I was of two minds about this your development of your T-bone read, but if I aggregate all your posts outside of this one point, I would tend to think you'd be town more often than scum. There is certainly potential for my read to change as I am not anchored to it nearly as strongly as others.

[CUDDLE TIME]

I'm still on page 10. This is much harder than I thought it would be. I need to give my brain a break. For now I'll post what I have.

During this re-read of the game, I'm focusing on getting associetive reads leading from followers to Kira. My top Kira-read using this method is Cuddle. As much as I like their posts (mainly Dragon and Thomith), there's just so many people who could be their followers: Dan, Drew, Erinys, Gimli, Klick, Rat and Tao.

There's no one who's got even close to 7 potential followers. But there's many people with exactly 3 "non-followers". This is my "non-Kira" list:

• Drew (Aureal, Klick, Rat).
  
• Erinys (Cuddle, Dan, Klick).
  
• Gimli (Aureal, Cuddle, Erinys).
  
• Tao (Aureal, Cuddle, Dan).

These four could be of either alignment, but I don't think they are Kira.

Keep in mind that this is only up to page 10. I'll continue with this train of reasoning later.

Can you elaborate on why Drew can't be Kira with Rat as a follower and why Tao can't be Kira with Dan as a follower.

- A

[Freedom]

reading up from when i've repped in

[Freedom]

rn i think cuddle time, willow and aureal are probably not kira.
dan seems to be aggressive regardless of alignment so unsure about him.

[Freedom]

and i think klick and dan are unaligned.

[Freedom]

based on their interactions.

[Freedom]

from what i've seen at least though i need to iso both to get a better sense of things

[CUDDLE TIME]

Hey Dragon, feel free to pursue Aureal, but you can't avoid forever coming up with a better reason to have a town read on Klick. It's obvious you're capable. So again, why?

It's almost midnight (AGAIN, because I am absolutely horrible at time management), so I'm gonna give a very quick answer and elaborate more tomorrow evening (which would be like 24 hours to deadline btw):

I liked Klick's entrance. His vote on HPE felt like a genuine mindmeld with me and Gimli and you, all of which I was townreading at the time. His irrelevant comment about hydra dissonance may have sounded awkward to you and Gimli, and rightly so, but I find early awkwardness to be a towntell for Klick.

Also in general I have liked a lot of his thinking, including his TR of T-Bone, his reaction to my gambit scumread on him, his TR of Gimli and his general approach to finding Kira. I feel they are very in line with how I'd expect town!Klick to think, both on a meta level and on a "those are the correct reads a townperson in this game should have" level.

- Dragon

[HighPrincessErinys]

Yeah, this one's said that Klick has some weird vibes before but it thinks overall he's got a town mindset.

[HighPrincessErinys]

This one can go either AD or HT today, since we're approaching deadline.

[Little Will o' Wisp]

I'm still on page 10. This is much harder than I thought it would be. I need to give my brain a break. For now I'll post what I have.

During this re-read of the game, I'm focusing on getting associetive reads leading from followers to Kira. My top Kira-read using this method is Cuddle. As much as I like their posts (mainly Dragon and Thomith), there's just so many people who could be their followers: Dan, Drew, Erinys, Gimli, Klick, Rat and Tao.

There's no one who's got even close to 7 potential followers. But there's many people with exactly 3 "non-followers". This is my "non-Kira" list:

• Drew (Aureal, Klick, Rat).
  
• Erinys (Cuddle, Dan, Klick).
  
• Gimli (Aureal, Cuddle, Erinys).
  
• Tao (Aureal, Cuddle, Dan).

These four could be of either alignment, but I don't think they are Kira.

Keep in mind that this is only up to page 10. I'll continue with this train of reasoning later.

Can you elaborate on why Drew can't be Kira with Rat as a follower and why Tao can't be Kira with Dan as a follower.

- A

Sure!

VOTE: Hu

Much too polite of an entrance

I do not believe a follower would choose to engage in RVS banter with Kira.

@black: Seems to me the main problem was the way you phrased it differently than your intent. I happen to agree those 3 posts in succession merit questioning. But leaving it as 'lookie here, surely there's a bad un in this batch of apples' isn't saying anything much on the surface. T-bone has said his piece about the dissonance of the klick read whiplash (if I'm understanding correctly) which was warranted before extra fuel to the fire was added.

I am now curious about the HPE and Hu tao's reasons.

Dan's response to the three bad-reason votes on Cuddles (from Tao, Erinys and T-Bone) was to defend T-Bone, but suspect Erinys and Tao. I do not believe Erinys or Tao could be Dan's Kira.

[Little Will o' Wisp]

If I have to choose one of the current wagons (which I have), it would be ActionDan.

VOTE: ActionDan

[ActionDan]

Hey Dragon, feel free to pursue Aureal, but you can't avoid forever coming up with a better reason to have a town read on Klick. It's obvious you're capable. So again, why?

It's almost midnight (AGAIN, because I am absolutely horrible at time management), so I'm gonna give a very quick answer and elaborate more tomorrow evening (which would be like 24 hours to deadline btw):

I liked Klick's entrance. His vote on HPE felt like a genuine mindmeld with me and Gimli and you, all of which I was townreading at the time. His irrelevant comment about hydra dissonance may have sounded awkward to you and Gimli, and rightly so, but I find early awkwardness to be a towntell for Klick.

Also in general I have liked a lot of his thinking, including his TR of T-Bone, his reaction to my gambit scumread on him, his TR of Gimli and his general approach to finding Kira. I feel they are very in line with how I'd expect town!Klick to think, both on a meta level and on a "those are the correct reads a townperson in this game should have" level.

- Dragon

You said he was exposed to you voting him for reactions in another game so I wouldn't put much stock into a reaction test in which he had foresight. I agree that his thinking on you and T-bone and ofc the HPE vote were perfectly reasonable and fine. But not on Gimli and not on me. They are simply not reasonable reads that Klick, being an intelligent mafia player, would have. I've gone over why that is in my previous posts. I don't know if you want a refresher.

---

Considering that deadline is approaching and I do have 4 votes, I feel compelled to claim that I am either Assistant or Detective. If I am not, a theoretical Assistant can CC me.

[ActionDan]

If I have to choose one of the current wagons (which I have), it would be ActionDan.

VOTE: ActionDan

Now you should probably give your reasons as to why you choose this. please show your work.

[Little Will o' Wisp]

If I have to choose one of the current wagons (which I have), it would be ActionDan.

VOTE: ActionDan

Now you should probably give your reasons as to why you choose this. please show your work.

To be

really

honest, I kinda sheeped Erinys a little bit.

Out of the four current wagons, Gimli is the only one I'm unwilling to vote on.

[ActionDan]

You sheeped the person who's probably a scum follower. T_T

[ActionDan]

We all make mistakes. Some make more.

[Little Will o' Wisp]

UNVOTE: Dan

[HighPrincessErinys]

what just happened