Mini Theme 2328: Death Note: Second Page. Day 3!

[Radical Rat]

Right then, Dan gets off the list of backup Kiras, and my current solve remains unchanged.

I will compromise to avoid deadline if necessary, but I still strongly prefer Klick.

[Freedom]

i'm going to iso hu now but she's nullish rn

[CUDDLE TIME]

I thought the push on HPE was weak, and expressed as much, but what stuck out to me was your insistence on it being a red herring, and your supposition that Action Dan was Kira based on basically nothing. I wanted to wait and see how things developed, and then they just got worse.

Your reaction to HPE claiming a shitpost seemed to indicate you thought it WAS signaling Kira, but that doesn't quite align with your red herring claim earlier. I thought perhaps you might have been a Follower either misdirecting to protect Gimli, perhaps assuming HPE was the other partner and being worried someone else would interpret that as a signal, or potentially Dan's Follower, trying to do a reverse psychology, which would explain why you never actually voted Dan.

But then Gimli's suggestion that Kira won't look scummy combined with you being absent from his PoE pool due to "investigative depth" that doesn't exist, with you yourself describing your reads as vibe-based, made all of the pieces Klick into place.

You jumped at HPE because, as Kira, you're looking for these signals, and having seen something that you think looks like a signal but directed towards someone else, you tried to push that narrative. No matter whether it lands on Gimli or Dan, it's not you. Gimli's oddities would put him as a strong Follower candidate, and then Dragon immediately jumping on me as soon as I suggested I thought you were Kira... well I think he's overplayed the hand now.

So I suppose to answer your question, Klick, what I'm looking for... is justice.

Rereading this, meh I can see your points of Klick being Kira. But I feel annoyed cause I want to have some townreads I'm confident of. And I'm also still reading Rat as scum.

Rat, would you mind untunneling Klick for a bit and pushing elsewhere as if Klick flipped not-Kira (which would helo me read you better if you are town and in fact also help me read Klick better), and then you can go back to pushing him?

I mean you can't be 100% sure he's Kira anyway and your tunnel makes you hard to read and the gamestate pretty annoying yo operate in. If you die then I will seriously consider pushing Klick. If you don't you can resume pushing him tomorrow after we have info from a flip and detective, which will like help, I guess.

- Dragon

[Hu Tao]

Dan has made sense so far with his read on me. I can find it believable.

[Hu Tao]

I thought the push on HPE was weak, and expressed as much, but what stuck out to me was your insistence on it being a red herring, and your supposition that Action Dan was Kira based on basically nothing. I wanted to wait and see how things developed, and then they just got worse.

Your reaction to HPE claiming a shitpost seemed to indicate you thought it WAS signaling Kira, but that doesn't quite align with your red herring claim earlier. I thought perhaps you might have been a Follower either misdirecting to protect Gimli, perhaps assuming HPE was the other partner and being worried someone else would interpret that as a signal, or potentially Dan's Follower, trying to do a reverse psychology, which would explain why you never actually voted Dan.

But then Gimli's suggestion that Kira won't look scummy combined with you being absent from his PoE pool due to "investigative depth" that doesn't exist, with you yourself describing your reads as vibe-based, made all of the pieces Klick into place.

You jumped at HPE because, as Kira, you're looking for these signals, and having seen something that you think looks like a signal but directed towards someone else, you tried to push that narrative. No matter whether it lands on Gimli or Dan, it's not you. Gimli's oddities would put him as a strong Follower candidate, and then Dragon immediately jumping on me as soon as I suggested I thought you were Kira... well I think he's overplayed the hand now.

So I suppose to answer your question, Klick, what I'm looking for... is justice.

Rereading this, meh I can see your points of Klick being Kira. But I feel annoyed cause I want to have some townreads I'm confident of. And I'm also still reading Rat as scum.

Rat, would you mind untunneling Klick for a bit and pushing elsewhere as if Klick flipped not-Kira (which would helo me read you better if you are town and in fact also help me read Klick better), and then you can go back to pushing him?

I mean you can't be 100% sure he's Kira anyway and your tunnel makes you hard to read and the gamestate pretty annoying yo operate in. If you die then I will seriously consider pushing Klick. If you don't you can resume pushing him tomorrow after we have info from a flip and detective, which will like help, I guess.

- Dragon

Top 2 most likely to be kira?

[Radical Rat]

Well, the flip we're actually guaranteed to get is going to be Kira, Detective, or Neither.

If Klick manages to flip Detective, Dan immediately becomes the biggest suspect, and my attention would turn to trying to figure out whether he's a Follower hoping to distract from Kira with his claim, or Kira banking on us assuming Kira wouldn't be so bold.

If Klick flips as neither, and we get no further information, I will work under the assumption he was a Follower, and my gaze shifts toward Gimli. In this scenario, I probably start townreading you. My working theory would be that Klick saw HPE's interaction with Gimli as a signal, believed that HPE was the other follower, and was worried that the Town would pick up on that, and started attempting damage control by calling it an intentional red herring and trying to drag attention to Dan instead.

If Klick flips neither, and we get a flip claiming him to be Town, and that flip comes from a trustworthy source, I have to re-evaluate everything. My pool would probably become HPE/Hu Tao/Willow, because they're the ones who are basically in my Town pile by default, but I don't have any strong, direct reads on.

[ActionDan]

I will be very busy today. I will compromise only on gimli, klick, and HPE. No one else

[CUDDLE TIME]

You said he was exposed to you voting him for reactions in another game so I wouldn't put much stock into a reaction test in which he had foresight. I agree that his thinking on you and T-bone and ofc the HPE vote were perfectly reasonable and fine. But not on Gimli and not on me. They are simply not reasonable reads that Klick, being an intelligent mafia player, would have. I've gone over why that is in my previous posts. I don't know if you want a refresher.

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Considering that deadline is approaching and I do have 4 votes, I feel compelled to claim that I am either Assistant or Detective. If I am not, a theoretical Assistant can CC me.

I missed this

VOTE: Gimli

- Dragon

[CUDDLE TIME]

Willing to vote Klick maybe

- Dragon

[CUDDLE TIME]

Argh whatever

VOTE: Klick

[CUDDLE TIME]

Also

I was gonna write a mechpost about how the detective should claim D3 and the assistant should never claim but I think it's maybe, a tiny bit, too late for that.

What I do think is a good idea is that the detective should aim for people he suspects as being followers, not Kira. A detective inno doesn't clear someone of being Kira (since they could've given the death note away), but it does clear someone of being a follower. Also we should massclaim at the start of each day if we got the note or not, and if someone doesn't claim receiving it but does have secrets they are guilty.

- Dragon

[CUDDLE TIME]

Top 2 most likely to be kira?

My thoughts were Gimli and Aureal.

- Dragon

[CUDDLE TIME]

Actually Klick could still be a Gimli follower which is why I voted Gimli earlier.

[Hu Tao]

Top 2 most likely to be kira?

My thoughts were Gimli and Aureal.

- Dragon

Join me on Aureal

[Hu Tao]

I think this game would have been more fun if I was Kira or a follower. This is too hard as town ngl

[CUDDLE TIME]

Hu Tao, could you please TLDR me your reads?

- Dragon

[Hu Tao]

Hu Tao, could you please TLDR me your reads?

- Dragon

You town is the only one I'm confident in. Areal I think has a chance of being scum.

[Hu Tao]

Drew I think might be town too. Unsure

[CUDDLE TIME]

Sorry I wasn't clear, I meant like give explanation of these reads.

[Hu Tao]

Mostly all is gut and not worth trying to explain again if I'm being honest

[Enchant]

Vote Count

Official Vote Count 1.07

We have no time for flavor.

Execution

With

10

votes in play, it takes

6

to execute someone.

Klick

(3): Radical Rat, ActionDan, CUDDLETIME

ActionDan

(2): Gimli, HighPrincessErinys

Aureal

(1): Hu Tao

Gimli

(1): Aureal

Not Voting

(3): Little Will o' Wisp, Klick, Freedom

Deadline:

(expired on 2024-02-27 17:44:05).

Grace Period: No one can be hammered for (expired on 2024-02-18 17:44:05)

Mod notes: Busy kinda.

[Freedom]

VOTE: klick

[HighPrincessErinys]

bruh

[Freedom]

i trust dan to be trueclaiming given the lack of ccs

[Hu Tao]

Oh. 1 day left. Uhh... I think I remember liking Klick before ill need to double check