Mini Theme 2330 - A Questionable Almost-Normal Game - Postgame

[Alianna]

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Votecount 1.08

light_ganski (4): DkKoba, usesPython, Black, Doctor Drew
ketchup777 (2): Titus, JacksonVirgo
usesPython (1): Laplacian
Hu Tao (1): Ranger
JacksonVirgo (1): light_ganski
Arko (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (3): Arko, Hu Tao, Political Clout

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-09 00:53:57).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[light_ganski]

VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.

In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.

I did this a lot in my first game as scum

again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruit

I wouldn't classify ketchup as LHF at all. In the last game we played he was pretty obviously town. I'm not getting the same vibes here yet

in my first ever game on this site eight years ago, I did a decently good job (as town) of coming across as fairly obvious town. like, better than i've normally been able to replicate since. in my second I got mislimmed, day one, *as an innocent child*. i think from experience that in first games, it can be easier to maintain a high, productive, solve-y *energy* that's easy to TR, but hard to maintain when the first game novelty wears off but you don't yet have the experience to be *confident* in your play, and ketchup very much comes across like that to me rn

[Doctor Drew]

i demand attention

Ngl, was hoping for more engagement around me as well.

But, I did just ask you a question

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.

In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.

I did this a lot in my first game as scum

again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruit

I wouldn't classify ketchup as LHF at all. In the last game we played he was pretty obviously town. I'm not getting the same vibes here yet

in my first ever game on this site eight years ago, I did a decently good job (as town) of coming across as fairly obvious town. like, better than i've normally been able to replicate since. in my second I got mislimmed, day one, *as an innocent child*. i think from experience that in first games, it can be easier to maintain a high, productive, solve-y *energy* that's easy to TR, but hard to maintain when the first game novelty wears off but you don't yet have the experience to be *confident* in your play, and ketchup very much comes across like that to me rn

Outside of the one example you just gave about yourself, is there anything about Ketchup here that would support your theory?

[Laplacian]

done with work, who scum?

[Laplacian]

also are we still RVS shitposting or is it tryhard time? want to check before I reread the thread

[light_ganski]

again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruit

I wouldn't classify ketchup as LHF at all. In the last game we played he was pretty obviously town. I'm not getting the same vibes here yet

in my first ever game on this site eight years ago, I did a decently good job (as town) of coming across as fairly obvious town. like, better than i've normally been able to replicate since. in my second I got mislimmed, day one, *as an innocent child*. i think from experience that in first games, it can be easier to maintain a high, productive, solve-y *energy* that's easy to TR, but hard to maintain when the first game novelty wears off but you don't yet have the experience to be *confident* in your play, and ketchup very much comes across like that to me rn

Outside of the one example you just gave about yourself, is there anything about Ketchup here that would support your theory?

I'll admit that its fundamentally based on vibes. but its an increasingly strong vibes read. the mindset behind posts like this gives unsure, uncomfortable town:

Your titus vote wasn't a joke?

Would like some clarification on this as well, I kinda thought Ketchup was my spirit animal......but now fear I was just seeing myself in him a bit too much(play style wise).

The idea came after looking up what fencesitting meant and I was like woah, staying neutral? that sounds like something the mafia would do let’s not do that. but I assure my votes (at least by a couple days from now) will probably mostly be well thought out. Anyway, to answer the question of do i suspect Titus, ignoring post 244 for a sec, yes. A little bit. I wasn‘t expecting to be immediately attacked by any of the friends from a few weeks ago in their first post. And I thought I had made a friendly and recognisable reference to Titus, which I had expected to be reciprocated, but now was surprised when it was both ignored and she voted me.

With 244 having been posted, i guess Titus just gets around. 80,000 posts is a lot. Or she wasn’t truly invested in the last game idk. Anyway. It hurts, but it also explains her opening more.

Basically, I had definitely assumed Titus would remember me, even if we didn’t talk much. Context: I‘m pretty sure I had asked her to tell some interesting mafia stories at the end of a mini convo we‘d been having, but she was hammered before she could respond. So, on the assumption that she remembered me, her cold/standoffishish opening to me was weird.

I read the mindset behind the first paragraph here as "I want to be a productive townie, but I'm not sure how and I'm not sure why people started scumreading me even though I'm trying". It feels like genuine reactive frustration, in a way that doesn't come out as much once you've experienced it a few times (especially if we are used to it because we're admittedly not very good, but keep going because we're gluttons for punishment)

[Laplacian]

oh er

VOTE: DkKoba

an anagram of bad kok? sus

No I actually claim Miller

Dumb reason and actual reason mean I'm not voting DkKoba until like, day 3. Then we kill them and let

God

Mod sort them out

[DkKoba]

i demand attention

Ngl, was hoping for more engagement around me as well.

But, I did just ask you a question

I missed it, I tend to mainly look at quotes

[DkKoba]

oh er

VOTE: DkKoba

an anagram of bad kok? sus

No I actually claim Miller

Dumb reason and actual reason mean I'm not voting DkKoba until like, day 3. Then we kill them and let

God

Mod sort them out

so true

[Laplacian]

Scumpoints to Ranger for magical {bracketed lists of mystery} that are backed up by a magical black box of "tens of thousands of games". That's not an argument, that's appeal to authority

[Doctor Drew]

i demand attention

Ngl, was hoping for more engagement around me as well.

But, I did just ask you a question

I missed it, I tend to mainly look at quotes

VOTE: Koba

Just to get it out of my system lol

nice try but i claim uncc miller VOTE: usespython

koba making this joke in a way that lets people laugh it off as a joke but would get a miller to say something feels kinda bad

No I actually claim Miller

Alianna feeling mean hehe, would be funny if there's no cops

it's supposed to be a troll game so I expected either like 7 millers or just be uncc as a names townie

I hydra'ed with Alianna in a game where every member of the town was a Miller, so I don't think she would be that evil lol

*Cue her posting the devil emoji in the mid chat*

nice try but i claim uncc miller VOTE: usespython

koba making this joke in a way that lets people laugh it off as a joke but would get a miller to say something feels kinda bad

No I actually claim Miller

Alianna feeling mean hehe, would be funny if there's no cops

it's supposed to be a troll game so I expected either like 7 millers or just be uncc as a names townie

can you unacronymicize uncc please? (:

true

I claim not miller. investigate me if you want to find a town!

Uncc= uncounterclaimed

ah ok i was thinking uncounterclaimable

why did you say it was uncounterclaimed?

because I don't see any other miller claims do you??

Ya but, you were like one of the first few posts of the game

Apologies for the quote wall, pain in the bum to delete everything not relevant on my phone.

Also, guess it wasn't a question per se

[DkKoba]

Oh lmao the uncc part was a joke bc I highly expected more miller claims based on my role existing as that was where my mind went first with non normal, didn't think of the "lol random miller " angle

[Laplacian]

don’t be fooled by my post count I’ve literally only played 1 game I just made 777 posts

This post is the only reason I'm not hopping on the Ketchup train*. They feel flailey, but this context is exactly how I'd expect someone who made 700+ posts one game to react to getting scumread.

*also more of a mustard guy tbh

[Laplacian]

Oh lmao the uncc part was a joke bc I highly expected more miller claims based on my role existing as that was where my mind went first with non normal, didn't think of the "lol random miller " angle

Yeah, I think anyone who took the uncc part seriously is scummy. There's no way to not parse that as an S-tier joke except looking for reasons to vote you

[Laplacian]

VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.

In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.

I did this a lot in my first game as scum

again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruit

townpost

[Doctor Drew]

Oh lmao the uncc part was a joke bc I highly expected more miller claims based on my role existing as that was where my mind went first with non normal, didn't think of the "lol random miller " angle

Gotcha, I would tend to doubt multiple millers, that's a Boonskies sort of thing lol

[Laplacian]

LG not responding to or acknowledging her wagon feels kinda bad

Well than, let's apply more pressure

Drew, on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard are you feeling this wagon?

[Doctor Drew]

LG not responding to or acknowledging her wagon feels kinda bad

Well than, let's apply more pressure

Drew, on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard are you feeling this wagon?

Like maybe a 6, wanted to see if Black would actually vote Light(the eternal battle).

But since then I don't know if I am buying lights defense of Ketchup, seems a bit 'white knighty' to me, but I wouldn't say they are obvScum either, at this point at least

[Laplacian]

Thanks, was trying to decide if I wanted to hop on that wagon or not, wanted to hear your motivations. I like LG's low-hanging fruit comment, not big on the rest of their defense though and the cutesy story. Gonna keep reading, will hop on later if I lust for blood

[light_ganski]

VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim. In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.

considering that arko hasn't posted yet

do you suspect anyone else, besides titus?

[light_ganski]

i demand attention

granted. do you have any actual thoughts about who might be scum, or town even?

[light_ganski]

hell, scratch that. koba, do you have *any* actual thoughts about the game at all beyond your own miller claim?

[Titus]

Scumpoints to Ranger for magical {bracketed lists of mystery} that are backed up by a magical black box of "tens of thousands of games". That's not an argument, that's appeal to authority

You expect verifiable logic? Do you expect Ranger to be Titus? Ranger does unverifiable logic.

[Titus]

Also aside from PC ketchup, you are the only person who I have less experience.