Mini Theme 2330 - A Questionable Almost-Normal Game - Postgame

[Ranger]

{JacksonVirgo, usesPython}
{Political Clout, Hu Tao}
{Black}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Laplacian}
{Titus}
{DKKoba}
{light_ganski}

P34, although I'm not quite satisfied with the reads from Laplacian below.

[JacksonVirgo]

Reading my ISO like you said you're doing would answer both of those

I want to hear it from you.

Not interested in repeating myself for the sake of repeating myself

your explanation didn't really make sense to me.

They don't seem to be deflecting because of my push, the push is seemingly absolutely meaningless to him but instead he's trying to get me to be more productive in a way that they seem to truly think that scum-reading them is useless/meaningless and they want to actually do something to progress the game. I don't know how to put this into words properly

They're not 'deflecting because of the push,' 'push is meaningless,' 'trying to get me to be more productive,' 'scum reading them is useless,' 'want to do something to progress the game'.

Wouldn't scum want you to think that scum reading them is useless? or are they doing it in a unique way or a towny way? I'm not sure I follow.

It's their focus that was elsewhere, it wasn't on the push at all. Deflecting would generally show their focus is at least somewhat on the push but it wasn't. I guess that's a way to word it

[JacksonVirgo]

let me iso jv brb

Why me in particular?

[Political Clout]

Reading my ISO like you said you're doing would answer both of those

I want to hear it from you.

Not interested in repeating myself for the sake of repeating myself

your explanation didn't really make sense to me.

They don't seem to be deflecting because of my push, the push is seemingly absolutely meaningless to him but instead he's trying to get me to be more productive in a way that they seem to truly think that scum-reading them is useless/meaningless and they want to actually do something to progress the game. I don't know how to put this into words properly

They're not 'deflecting because of the push,' 'push is meaningless,' 'trying to get me to be more productive,' 'scum reading them is useless,' 'want to do something to progress the game'.

Wouldn't scum want you to think that scum reading them is useless? or are they doing it in a unique way or a towny way? I'm not sure I follow.

It's their focus that was elsewhere, it wasn't on the push at all. Deflecting would generally show their focus is at least somewhat on the push but it wasn't. I guess that's a way to word it

I think I believe you. You seem sincere and earnest. I should clarify your read seems sincere. but I'm thinking leaning town for now.

[Hu Tao]

Ranger is Hu Tao getting townier in that list or is it just everyone else getting scummier?

Townier!

What did I do? I've literally done nothing

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: light_ganski

Every post is a regression to the mean. She goes to defend people as soon as anyone posts a scumread, pushing against them as if they don't want any scum to be found. No strong reads or votes. Even L_G voting for me isn't "Lap is scum," it's "lets see where this goes".

This feels like more of a panic vote at being at E-2 and having another wagon opportunity rather than a genuine belief Light is scum

So true bestie

[Political Clout]

let me iso jv brb

Why me in particular?

I called one of your posts not towny I should do due diligence and follow up and investigate yeah?

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One thing that has been on my mind about light is that when they posted about jv here and black it was a few pages before they finally got back to it and then a few pages went by and they responded to me talking about their read on ketchup being very clear. It felt like cherry picking but now I'm thinking They just don't know what to post as scum and are trying hard to get into the game. let me think about it some more, maybe I am misremembering.

[Hu Tao]

Cuz I’m a wolf and we have a traitor I don’t wanna accidentally kill

No biggie, sure you can understand

it's okay i get it, playing to your win condition and all that <3

OMG WHAT IF THIS ISNT A LOVEHEART BUT IS ACTUALLY A LESS THAN 3; LIGHT IS HINTING THAT SHE KNOWS THERE ARE LESS THAN 3 MAFIA WHO KNOW EACH OTHERS IDENTITY

Galaxy Brain

[Ranger]

Yes, it's content lurking.

That's the idea. Refer to sig.

Throw in that appeal to authority

Although I'll freely coast, I'll not let the slander stand about a nonexistent appeal. I've made none.

[Hu Tao]

1.18

Votecount 1.18

Laplacian (4): Hu Tao, light_ganski, Black, Ranger
light_ganski (4): Doctor Drew, Political Clout, Titus, Laplacian
Ranger (1): DkKoba
DkKoba (1): usesPython
Doctor Drew (1): JacksonVirgo
ketchup777 (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (1): Arko

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-09 00:53:57).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

When lap flips scum this vote count will be important

[Ranger]

That's the idea. Refer to sig.

Casual tryhard = lazy. Putting in the minimum amount of effort while still seriously trying.

I'm certainly

capable

of more, I choose not to as I've far more important things in life than an online mafia game.

[JacksonVirgo]

When lap flips scum this vote count will be important

Not ganski?

[Ranger]

{JacksonVirgo, usesPython}
{Political Clout, Hu Tao}
{ketchup777}
{Black}
{Doctor Drew}
{Laplacian}
{Titus}
{DKKoba}
{light_ganski}

P35

[Hu Tao]

When lap flips scum this vote count will be important

Not ganski?

Light is different from her scum game so I think she's town

[Ranger]

I think she’s remaining very fluid on who to vote

Rigidity in votes is a disease. Fluidity in reads and votes is the entire reason I developed my playstyle. To remain unbiased, and open to any change.

Refusal to pivot is never conductive to eliminating scum. Certainly, letting a vote stay and pushing can provide useful information; rigidity to attached reads stops being useful past a point.

her response was not ‘no i wasn’t doing that' but(paraphrasing) 'I would not be capable of doing that'.

Your paraphrase is wrong as I never said anything of the sort.

[Ranger]

The lists are NAI for Ranger. If you're voting her because of the lists then it's a waste of time

But that’s like 3/4 of her posts

You're certainly capable of engaging me on any list I post, particularly the shifts in the lists. There's always a reason and I'm usually able to explain. It could be 'vibes off of their posts', yet that still gives you the information of which posts vibed the change.

[Ranger]

@Ranger

can you elaborate on your town-read on me further than just stuff from pages 1-3. I was hoping to ask after you're fully caught up but I don't think it's going to change anything

I've seen your play in both my recent games. Your scumgame was entirely different than your towngame and comparing the two, this is by far the town of the two. I admit the sample size is small. Still, this would be a vast improvement from the scumgame I saw previously in a drastically short timeframe.

It's certainly possible my metric's biased, if your Marathon Setup play was a vast underperformance, and you're capable of this as scum.

I get good vibes overall with all your posts so I stand by it.

[Ranger]

{JacksonVirgo, usesPython}
{Political Clout, Hu Tao}
{ketchup777}
{Black}
{Doctor Drew}
{Laplacian}
{Titus}
{DKKoba}
{light_ganski}

P35

[DkKoba]

When lap flips scum this vote count will be important

Not ganski?

Light is different from her scum game so I think she's town

that's what I'm saying

[Ranger]

{JacksonVirgo, usesPython}
{Political Clout, Hu Tao}
{ketchup777}
{Black}
{Doctor Drew}
{Laplacian}
{Titus}
{DKKoba}
{light_ganski}

P36

*fixed

[Ranger]

{JacksonVirgo, usesPython}
{Hu Tao}
{ketchup777}
{Black}
{Political Clout, Doctor Drew}
{Laplacian}
{Titus}
{light_ganski}
{DKKoba}

P37

[Ranger]

What did I do? I've literally done nothing

You were doing something on the pages you went up. Posting.

[Political Clout]

reads list time

towny:

usesPython: great catch in 813. I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV

neutral:

HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens

scummy:

Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see 827

Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.

where am I here?

[Political Clout]

reads list time

towny:

usesPython: great catch in 813. I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV

neutral:

HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens

scummy:

Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see 827

Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.

for some reason my first instinct was that it was scummy that laplacian forgot me or am I just being sensitive?

[Political Clout]

reads list time

towny:

usesPython: great catch in 813. I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV

neutral:

HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens

scummy:

Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see 827

Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.

I for the life of me can't see how any of this is alignment indicative.

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