In post 1541, Black wrote:
Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
As i said at some point before, it’s possible Drew feared a bodyguard or something that would allow Lap to get a verifiable cop result off
Ketchup+Jackson—> cop Hu Tao
Hu Tao+Black—> cop Jackson
Ranger+Titus—> cop Doctor Drew
usesPython+Doctor Drew —>cop Black
Political Clout—> cop Ketchup
If you're a modified cop check who you want to check
If you're a regular cop check according to the list and pretend you checked who you wanted to check unless you get a guilty/no result on the person you checked in the list
'pretend you checked who you wanted to check'; how will that work? do we only speak up if we didn’t get an inno and otherwise remain silent?
Ketchup+Jackson—> cop Hu Tao
Hu Tao+Black—> cop Jackson
Ranger+Titus—> cop Doctor Drew
usesPython+Doctor Drew —>cop Black
Political Clout—> cop Ketchup
If you're a modified cop check who you want to check
If you're a regular cop check according to the list and pretend you checked who you wanted to check unless you get a guilty/no result on the person you checked in the list
'pretend you checked who you wanted to check'; how will that work? do we only speak up if we didn’t get an inno and otherwise remain silent?
If we were Town Cop and would want to check Koba as a Disloyal Town Cop we'd Town Cop Black (according to the list) and say we have an inno on Koba
This lets the modifier cops post their results without immediately being obvious from deviating from the list while still letting them check who they want to check. If someone flips Town Cop later in the game it means they got an inno on the person in the list (since otherwise they'd have come out as Town Cop with a guilty/no result)
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In post 1541, Black wrote:
Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
As i said at some point before, it’s possible Drew feared a bodyguard or something that would allow Lap to get a verifiable cop result off
Trading one scum to avoid a cop check is a very bad trade, and a setup with ungated disloyal cop + doctor just straight up wouldn't fly for balance reasons
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In post 1640, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I want Black but if hammer is being risked gotta step this badboy up, talk tomorrow byee
It has been bothering me how she is twisting my eod actions into just one narrative instead of looking at all angles(which I believe townBlack would do), so I could flash wagon her.
I was looking at all angles though. That's why I didn't vote you
In post 1541, Black wrote:
Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
If Drew is a godfather wouldn't he see the disloyal cop as the biggest threat to him and try to convince others to push the wagon through like he did?
In post 1541, Black wrote:
Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
If Drew is a godfather wouldn't he see the disloyal cop as the biggest threat to him and try to convince others to push the wagon through like he did?
Pretend the setup is
What does scum Drew believably claim that lets him get away with immediately believing that Lap is fake claiming while also being a balanced questionable setup
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Drew's vote gives me pause because he's always talking about dancing with me and stuff but this game he hasn't shown much interest in interacting with me at all. My thoughts about his EoD behavior are pretty typical of me to have so I'm not sure why that is pushing the needle for him
In post 1541, Black wrote:
Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
If Drew is a godfather wouldn't he see the disloyal cop as the biggest threat to him and try to convince others to push the wagon through like he did?
Also same question we asked Ketchup, why not just shoot Lap at night?
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In post 1541, Black wrote:
Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
If Drew is a godfather wouldn't he see the disloyal cop as the biggest threat to him and try to convince others to push the wagon through like he did?
Pretend the setup is
What does scum Drew believably claim that lets him get away with immediately believing that Lap is fake claiming while also being a balanced questionable setup
I'm sorry I don't understand. Why would scum!Drew think this is the setup?
In post 1686, Black wrote:
Drew's vote gives me pause because he's always talking about dancing with me and stuff but this game he hasn't shown much interest in interacting with me at all. My thoughts about his EoD behavior are pretty typical of me to have so I'm not sure why that is pushing the needle for him
Nah you just miss his dances
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 1686, Black wrote:
Drew's vote gives me pause because he's always talking about dancing with me and stuff but this game he hasn't shown much interest in interacting with me at all. My thoughts about his EoD behavior are pretty typical of me to have so I'm not sure why that is pushing the needle for him
You're too hung up on dayplay here. Drew also doesn't pass our mountainous vibecheck, it's just that his play around the setup strongly suggests he's town
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In post 1541, Black wrote:
Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
If Drew is a godfather wouldn't he see the disloyal cop as the biggest threat to him and try to convince others to push the wagon through like he did?
Also same question we asked Ketchup, why not just shoot Lap at night?
The fade was right there in scum's grasp. It's much more optimal to push that through and then aim for another PR N1
In post 1686, Black wrote:
Drew's vote gives me pause because he's always talking about dancing with me and stuff but this game he hasn't shown much interest in interacting with me at all. My thoughts about his EoD behavior are pretty typical of me to have so I'm not sure why that is pushing the needle for him
You're too hung up on dayplay here. Drew also doesn't pass our mountainous vibecheck, it's just that his play around the setup strongly suggests he's town
I have a hard time reading play when it involves setup and balance so I'm just trying to read what I can here
In post 1689, Black wrote:
I'm sorry I don't understand. Why would scum!Drew think this is the setup?
The exact setup doesn't as long as scum don't know it's an all cop game, do you think the gamestate supports this or not?
As in if scum knew it was all cops we'd expect almost everyone to have pretty decent cop equity ready to go instead of some people barely looking like cops
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In post 1689, Black wrote:
I'm sorry I don't understand. Why would scum!Drew think this is the setup?
The exact setup doesn't as long as scum don't know it's an all cop game, do you think the gamestate supports this or not?
I have no clue what the gamestate supports
What does that even mean
I think if the scumteam has godfathers and they see a Disloyal Cop claim then they would probably expect there to be other ways to catch them, right?
Our point isn't if town has other ways of catching Godfathers but that Drew explicitly played d1 EOD as a Cop would and that the gamestate doesn't support the belief that scum Drew would know to aggressively take heat and fake cop here over just letting the opportunity pass and blasting Lap at night
Scum Drew would specifically need to know everyone's a cop in order for his EOD play to make sense as scum, which is the only mechanical question that's necessary to sort Drew
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