Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Yuuka Kazami]

Let me know if you meet Jesus.
Seems like a swell guy.
Unless you are Jesus, which may be the case.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Okay, maybe I am a little mean.

[Yuuka Kazami]

Sorry.

I lost my patience with non-content posts.
Which is why I pressured you. I figure killing players that don’t talk about their opinions about other people’s alignment is a swell way to eliminate scum/kill unreadable people.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

Can't really put it into words but Ichirin's reaction to the wagon feels extremely towny

Yuuka while maybe i'm reading too much into her natural mindset probably doesn't push a townie like that, this

could

be theater but i'm not thinking about that until a flip

and call me tunneled if you want but it really feels like clown is not pushing Ichirin in good faith

[Eternity Larva]

of Clown, Yuuka, and Koishi, i think Koishi looks the worst by a large margin

and deserves more votes for their transgressions

[Clownpiece]

by calling Ichrin's posts bad multiple times for reasons i cannot gather from reading the last couple pages

I am pretty sure that this was talking about Ichirin's first 7 posts (so up to 245), which make no attempt to do any solving.

[Clownpiece]

and call me tunneled if you want but it really feels like clown is not pushing Ichirin in good faith

at first it was just for content, but now I think that these posts

I don't particularly like that town just randomly swings 3 votes onto someone for funsies

I think it's just the mind virus completely rewiring people's perceptions of a weird out-of-left-field vote.

presuppose that we are town in a weird way coming from someone who had voiced no read on any of us up to that point.

[Koishi Komeiji]

of Clown, Yuuka, and Koishi, i think Koishi looks the worst by a large margin

and deserves more votes for their transgressions

cool story

[Eternity Larva]

of Clown, Yuuka, and Koishi, i think Koishi looks the worst by a large margin

and deserves more votes for their transgressions

i want to walk this back a bit and clarify that i don't necessarily think that all three are scummy for the push, i actually liked Clown's posts during that exchange.

i do think that Ichirin's catchup posts were fine and hir reaction to the naked votes and subsequent pressure seems genuine, which is why i felt the need to jump to hir defense when it felt like people were piling on and Koishi specifically was sniping from the side with no visible effort to actually sort hir.

but i admit that Ichirin's early posts are weaker than i remembered and can understand Yuuka's passion more when revisiting Ichirin's ISO.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Uh. So what exactly is the mod trying to clarify with their note?

I think the mod is saying that Kagerou-Chan's role is Marisa. Which isn't my role! Because Kagerou-Chan stole it!

Pedit: Yes, exactly! Kochiya-Sama is smart.

Ahh I didn’t even connect that her role name was your account name!

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Having looked back at Reisen's Iso

Exactly this, the speculation on account name vs flavor name feels floaty and pointless

I am still confused why people are acting like I was doing pointless set up spec, when I was both clearing up something that looked like a point of confusion and stating that that confusion resulted in me having a page 1 town read.

It was both useful clarifications and useful for reads >.<

For clarity my vote was just to get something going, I don’t think it was alignment indicative either way. Just something to say. Which could be townie I guess in context.

[Eternity Larva]

why would you be ok with dying if Larva explains what she was doing

Koishi can you explain what you were looking for with this question?

like, what would distinguish a town response from a scum response and how did that inform your read?

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Reading more but adhd might kick in. I’ve got yuuka, ichirin, tenshi, Marisa, sanae in my town kinda pile and kagerou/dai in my ew pile.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

I think Sanae's reads are fake because Kagerou is my only townread so far

This might be the only read that’s made me smile. Town sticker.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

I just don't find many reasons to vote for Koishi, and also feel like they will step up soon (or like, i hope, i'd be able to reconsider if things stay like they are)

175 has also reached straight for my tiny little sensitive heart i'll admit, and i feel like it's a very real thought to have (basically maybe it's not very justified, but it rings true and goes against what Scum!Koishi would be immediatly enclined to do)

No thoughts I want to share about this right now is just like to keep this post in my pocket for a rainy day.

[Yukari Yakumo]

VC 1.03

Clownpiece [1]:

Reisen Udongein Inaba

Kagerou Imaizumi [1]:

Ichirin Kumoi

Sanae Kochiya [1]:

Daiyousei

Daiyousei [1]:

Kagerou Imaizumi

Ichirin Kumoi [3]:

Yuuka Kazami, CLownpiece, Koishi Komeiji

Koishi Komeiji [1]:

Eternity Larva

Not Voting [5]:

Tenshi Hinanawi, Aya Shameimaru, Sanae Kochiya, Kaguya Houraisan, Marisa Kirisame

With

13

votes,

7

votes to Eliminate

Deadline:

(expired on 2024-03-17 19:45:00)

Mod Notes

• If you spot an error on the vote count, please let me know!
  
• Purple
  is my color, please don't use.

[Koishi Komeiji]

why would you be ok with dying if Larva explains what she was doing

Koishi can you explain what you were looking for with this question?

like, what would distinguish a town response from a scum response and how did that inform your read?

I am looking for her internal thought process that makes these posts make sense from a town pov

[Koishi Komeiji]

like what she is saying to the thread is that she thinks she's going to get "mislimmed" and that "the town has randomly voted her" - which could be a TMI slip that we're all town as CP is saying or it could just be she is speaking off the cuff etc.

but the issue I have is that she says she's fine with being misyeeted after Larva explains ____.

which is super weird to me because if I was being run up and about to be misyeeted I wouldnt really care what this one person was doing at this one moment in time in a game that's barely even started.

so I'm asking her why she would be fine with being misyeeted if it larva explained. and her explanation is basically that's her goal for this game, and that's like very ??? to me. What makes that goal so important that you'd be ok with being misyeeted after you accomplish it? the thought process doesn't make sense to me.

but people often don't make sense, people are often emotional about what they do. not every person who doesn't make sense to me has to be mafia because I'm different from other people.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

of Clown, Yuuka, and Koishi, i think Koishi looks the worst by a large margin

and deserves more votes for their transgressions

Go a little deeper on this because I think from koichi and ichirins interactions, koichi has a clear mindset behind their posting and it tracks pretty well.

[Eternity Larva]

ok

i feel a lot of the weirdness in the response to the pressure can be written off as frustration at being run up for reasons that sie doesn't understand, and i explained previously why i'm more inclined to believe that reaction was more likely to come from town than scum

your point about TMI is interesting though and not something i caught initially

PEdit: @Koishi

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

but i do agree with Ichirin on some level, hopefully wagons will start to stabilize a bit cause otherwise it's gonna be hard to analyse that

Yeah, that's part of it too, I don't know how particularly readable wagons that appear out of thin air and with several people voting for the sake of voting on them are.

What do you think outside of the wagon? Specifically slots like kagerou/kaguya/tenshi etc.

[Eternity Larva]

of Clown, Yuuka, and Koishi, i think Koishi looks the worst by a large margin

and deserves more votes for their transgressions

Go a little deeper on this because I think from koichi and ichirins interactions, koichi has a clear mindset behind their posting and it tracks pretty well.

my kneejerk reaction was that Koishi was subtly adding to the pressure on Ichirin while remaining under with the radar with their patented "ask questions that don't really matter to look like i'm contributing" strategy, while Yuuka and Clown were doing all the heavy lifting with that exchange, later avoiding accountability in the event Ichirin is ultimately mis-eliminated

but i do feel a bit better with Koishi's explanation and can buy that perspective

[Eternity Larva]

Reisen can you elaborate on your 'ew' pile? Our reads seem to align in that regard but i want to know why you feel that way

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

I still buy ichirin can be town. But the flash wagon is perfectly fine and if I was active around the time I probably would have voted there too.

[Koishi Komeiji]

i feel a lot of the weirdness in the response to the pressure can be written off as frustration at being run up for reasons that sie doesn't understand

ok and what differentiates that from scum frustration that they are being run up when they think they did nothing wrong?