Mini Theme 2330 - A Questionable Almost-Normal Game - Postgame

[Alianna]

2.21

Votecount 2.21

Titus (3): Ranger, Enchant, Black
Black (2): Doctor Drew, Titus
light_ganski (2): Hu Tao, Political Clout
Ranger (1): light_ganski
Political Clout (1): usesPython
Doctor Drew (1): ketchup777
ketchup777 (1): JacksonVirgo

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-14 01:04:13).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[JacksonVirgo]

Genuine question btw, maybe you can't see that

[ketchup777]

Ketchup. I don't want to keep wasting my breath.

Koba, Drew and myself all had the exact same underlying reaction to it, the outcome different because we're different people with different reads and assumptions. You're barking up the wrong tree. Titus just said (in a botched quote) that "everyone would have" which is almost exactly what I'm saying. Do you realise where your assumptions are? Do you notice this entire part of your read is based on a single assumption?

Yep it’s based on an assumption. I think, in the kindest way possible, you showed yourself to be fairly radical last game in voting and I wouldn’t be surprised at your voting someone quickly in a dangerous situation. Koba I hadn’t played with before but also seemed to be a fairly crazy player (playing while high, deliberately trying to look scummy, fake claiming miller in his first post, etc etc) so I can forgive his dangerous vote as well. but as you pointed out you are different people. Drew felt (more last game than this game) as if he is a somewhat analytical and careful player (not that you aren’t, please take no offence). like, he’s even claimed this game to have a notes PT. Yet he rushes into a hammer without stopping to think about it or consider his alleged notes? Odd

[ketchup777]

And he keeps dipping at important points. He can’t be at work forever, he’s sitting back to carefully draft his responses, maybe with help from maf

[JacksonVirgo]

Cut the fluff, what do you think that assumption is?

[ketchup777]

Cut the fluff, what do you think that assumption is?

Yes, I assuming that an analytical town player should take more than 9 minutes to think about a claim. I know I am not everyone, but i assure you I would probably take at least a day. I know I am not everyone, but town don’t need to rush. rush to Muslim=scum

[ketchup777]

mislim** lmao

[JacksonVirgo]

And he keeps dipping at important points. He can’t be at work forever, he’s sitting back to carefully draft his responses, maybe with help from maf

I don't want to speak for Drew of course, but this line of reasoning gets under my nerves a bit. Please just stick to the game content okay? I remember someone using this argument against me when I was in the middle of a rush at my old work and it made me feel so shit.

[ketchup777]

I make it something like (horrible horrible figures I know)

scum!Drew hammers Lap immediately 85% of the time
town!Drew hammers Lap immediately: 40%
after some thought: 10%
thinks about it and doesn’t hammer: 50%

[ketchup777]

And he keeps dipping at important points. He can’t be at work forever, he’s sitting back to carefully draft his responses, maybe with help from maf

I don't want to speak for Drew of course, but this line of reasoning gets under my nerves a bit. Please just stick to the game content okay? I remember someone using this argument against me when I was in the middle of a rush at my old work and it made me feel so shit.

amount of time taken to write posts, especially when Drew said he’s skimming the thread constantly, is another potential clue to me. But I promise I’ll (probably) never vote someone solely on them being slower to reply than I’d like in a utopia

[JacksonVirgo]

Cut the fluff, what do you think that assumption is?

Yes, I assuming that an analytical town player should take more than 9 minutes to think about a claim. I know I am not everyone, but i assure you I would probably take at least a day. I know I am not everyone, but town don’t need to rush. rush to Muslim=scum

I don't even think that's really what the core of the assumption is but I'll roll with it as it's close enough. That paired with you not really taking the entire context to heart, you read through that context with the knowledge that it was real before seeing how it played out. Do you think you are able to look back at that context with an unbiased mind? I don't think you're showing that you can. It's also been shown you don't know the weight of a Cop claim. Either one of those two in addition to the assumption that you made I think is pulling you right off the right path.

[Titus]

Ketchup can you drop the colors gimmick

[Titus]

It makes your posts harder to read

[ketchup777]

Cut the fluff, what do you think that assumption is?

Yes, I assuming that an analytical town player should take more than 9 minutes to think about a claim. I know I am not everyone, but i assure you I would probably take at least a day. I know I am not everyone, but town don’t need to rush. rush to Muslim=scum

I don't even think that's really what the core of the assumption is but I'll roll with it as it's close enough. That paired with you not really taking the entire context to heart, you read through that context with the knowledge that it was real before seeing how it played out. Do you think you are able to look back at that context with an unbiased mind? I don't think you're showing that you can. It's also been shown you don't know the weight of a Cop claim. Either one of those two in addition to the assumption that you made I think is pulling you right off the right path.

I might be biased
but these be my thoughts

[ketchup777]

Ketchup can you drop the colors gimmick

they’re too pretty ):

[ketchup777]

It makes your posts harder to read

it’s just simplest to split up a post with them tbh sry unless you have other ideas

[JacksonVirgo]

I know they're your thoughts, I'm trying to get you to see and dissect the flaws for yourself and then come to the conclusion you come to. I think currently you're seeing what fits and going with it instead of looking at it any bit further. I consider the read wrong, and I'm not saying that I know that I'm right I just don't think you're looking at this clearly (coming from someone who just cannot seem to see what you see)

[JacksonVirgo]

Seeing what fits at first glance*

[Titus]

It makes your posts harder to read

it’s just simplest to split up a post with them tbh sry unless you have other ideas

I use dashes

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Like this

[JacksonVirgo]

If you look at it from the PoV that

1. Drew doesn't play like you assumed he would
2. The Cop claim holds a lot more weight than you know
3. Try your best to forget that they were Town. They were the wagon for the day and then they claimed your exact role.

Imagine yourself in this spot. What's your thoughts on him?

[JacksonVirgo]

Not exact role, but close enough

[JacksonVirgo]

(was referring to the Cop, not the modifier)

[Titus]

If you look at it from the PoV that

1. Drew doesn't play like you assumed he would
2. The Cop claim holds a lot more weight than you know
3. Try your best to forget that they were Town. They were the wagon for the day and then they claimed your exact role.

Imagine yourself in this spot. What's your thoughts on him?

I'm confused on 3.

[ketchup777]

I know they're your thoughts, I'm trying to get you to see and dissect the flaws for yourself and then come to the conclusion you come to. I think currently you're seeing what fits and going with it instead of looking at it any bit further. I consider the read wrong, and I'm not saying that I know that I'm right I just don't think you're looking at this clearly (coming from someone who just cannot seem to see what you see)

sure sure

maybe a bad point but might you also not be biased to knowing you reacted in a certain way so if Drew mimics you it seems good?

[JacksonVirgo]

I believe they're not seeing the context for what it was in the moment. I think they're clouded because they know the end result. I don't know the better way to word that one