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Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:01 pm

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In post 996, light_ganski wrote:
In post 868, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 838, Laplacian wrote: reads list time
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towny:

usesPython: great catch in . I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV

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HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens

scummy:

Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see

Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.
Why do you feel the need to specify your agreement with ketchup when the read has nothing to do with that.

How much of a gap is between ganski and ranger
he needs add a bunch of extraneous information to make the list look like it actually contains any original thought on most of the players in it, that's why

(it doesn't)
I didn’t really get where either of you were coming from here. I think saying whether you agree with someone‘s reads is an integral part of most analysis?
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Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:05 pm

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In post 997, Political Clout wrote:
In post 995, Laplacian wrote:
In post 993, Political Clout wrote: I would have accepted it slipped my mind. I forgor oopsie. if you're having trouble reading me why am I not in the neutral bin as I assume that is what it's there for.
I treat neutral as "I have thought about them a bunch but I'm still not sure what's going on" or "you did something towny but then you did something scummy and they've cancelled out". DkKoba's in neutral because miller claim. HT had town vibes and then mischaracterized stuff hard. Neutral to me is "there's some shit going on with them, but I'm not sure how to resolve it yet", not no information. Tossing people in neutral because I haven't found anything interesting to discuss yet is just a waste of space
you should have done your homework and counted my posts I only had 27 when you posted your reads list so I also would have accepted your first reason that I hadn't posted enough. I believe you less now.

VOTE: laplacian
This response from PC felt like it was ignoring the bulk of Lap‘s response on purpose. Seemed like PC was trying to look smart by quoting the number of posts in his ISO (which takes like 6 seconds to check) and use that to fuel a rubbish discrediting of Lap‘s explanation. In the nicest possible way, PC‘s post reminded me of Dudley Dursley:

"36? But last year, last year, I had 37!"

which probably means it was written by someone unwilling to see other people‘s perspectives
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Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:09 pm

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In post 2245, Titus wrote:
In post 2242, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 2206, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1987, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1022, Titus wrote:
In post 1019, Laplacian wrote: Yeah, it's a slightly cursed role. I 100% believe there's both a miller and roleblocker out there so I can't trust any results
Wtf?
why did this make you u wtf titus
Also please respond to this when you can Titus
Titus and Drew are oh so good at dodging questions. It won’t work tho. Please say Titus why Lap‘s post made you post 'Wtf?'.
Lap was suggesting cop but a cop that couldn't trust themselves. I didn't know what to do with it and posted off the cuff.
The miller was already claimed (twice!), and a roleblocker would play into the whole idea of the setup being questionable and memey. I believed that there was probably Miller+roleblocker when I read Lap‘s post at the time. The fact that no one said they were roleblocked
probably
means there’s no roleblocker, also I’m not sure if

Roleblocker Godfather

counts as a normal role? is there a modifier that would make it work, combined or simultaneous maybe?

Anyway, I thought Lap was on the money. certainly not far enough to go 'wtf'
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Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:11 pm

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ok i think that’s it, most of that turned out to not even be questions just minddump, hope it helps at least one person (:
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Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:13 pm

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With that out of the way:

VOTE: Titus

if this is wrong, I’m sorry. I think you could make more of an effort to seem towny; dat‘s 2 games in a row now you’ve been pretty quickly wagoned. hopefully this one you are actually scum

see you on the other side o7
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Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:14 pm

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In post 2277, ketchup777 wrote: also I’m not sure if

Roleblocker Godfather

counts as a normal role?
Mafia Roleblocker Godfather is normal legal and does exactly what you're looking for
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Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:15 pm

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In post 2280, usesPython wrote:
In post 2277, ketchup777 wrote: also I’m not sure if

Roleblocker Godfather

counts as a normal role?
Mafia Roleblocker Godfather is normal legal and does exactly what you're looking for
Oh ok thanks!

well, no one claiming roleblock point still stands.
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Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:16 pm

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Still not interested in hammering this
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Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:17 pm

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UNVOTE:

hang on did. we decide if we were following cop plan?
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Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:17 pm

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In post 2283, ketchup777 wrote: UNVOTE:

hang on did. we decide if we were following cop plan?
We are, no reason not to.
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Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:19 pm

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In post 2275, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 996, light_ganski wrote:
In post 868, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 838, Laplacian wrote: reads list time
Spoiler:

towny:

usesPython: great catch in . I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV

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HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens

scummy:

Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see

Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.
Why do you feel the need to specify your agreement with ketchup when the read has nothing to do with that.

How much of a gap is between ganski and ranger
he needs add a bunch of extraneous information to make the list look like it actually contains any original thought on most of the players in it, that's why

(it doesn't)
I didn’t really get where either of you were coming from here. I think saying whether you agree with someone‘s reads is an integral part of most analysis?
I said it because it felt like they wanted to read you a particular way but wanted to lessen the worth of your input or put their foot in the door so they can back out of the read with no serious repercussions as they seeded a reason to flip on you already
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Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:19 pm

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Is that hammer?
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Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:20 pm

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In post 2286, JacksonVirgo wrote: Is that hammer?
No, Enchant unvoted
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Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:22 pm

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In post 2285, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2275, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 996, light_ganski wrote:
In post 868, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 838, Laplacian wrote: reads list time
Spoiler:

towny:

usesPython: great catch in . I can't see scum cross-referencing lists & pages like that.
ketchup: while I don't agree with their reads, they're actively trying to scumhunt and think
drew: good logic, I like how he argued with both usesPython and JV

neutral:

HT: i said they were towny earlier, but that dropped back to neutral after mischaracterizng me in JOAT.
JacksonVirgo: frustation over tunneling chat seems genuine. But I can't tell is frustration is from not wanting to admit tunnel or scum mad that their pushed collapsed. good taste in gifs tho
DkKoba: miller claim, ignore until d3 unless something super scummy happens

scummy:

Ranger: still dont like dem magic lists. Super easy to fake the progression to just coast along with prevailing opinions while looking like you're scumhunting
light_ganski: see

Everyone else either has low posts or I'm having trouble reading still.
Why do you feel the need to specify your agreement with ketchup when the read has nothing to do with that.

How much of a gap is between ganski and ranger
he needs add a bunch of extraneous information to make the list look like it actually contains any original thought on most of the players in it, that's why

(it doesn't)
I didn’t really get where either of you were coming from here. I think saying whether you agree with someone‘s reads is an integral part of most analysis?
I said it because it felt like they wanted to read you a particular way but wanted to lessen the worth of your input or put their foot in the door so they can back out of the read with no serious repercussions as they seeded a reason to flip on you already
hmm okey
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Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:23 pm

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In post 2214, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1668, ketchup777 wrote: Proposed cop plan if Light gets hammered:

Ketchup+Jackson—> cop Hu Tao
Hu Tao+Black—> cop Jackson
Ranger+Titus—> cop Doctor Drew
usesPython+Doctor Drew —>cop Black
Political Clout—> cop Ketchup
resurfacing this, proposing sub light in where Titus was. Python‘s idea about all of us should initially claim to be a modifier cop at the start of the next day and cop 'who we want to' also has merit.

Python’s plan was:

—>if normal town cop according to the list
above
—> if modified cop, you can cop whoever you think you should
—> at the start of tomorrow, we all pretend/truly say that we are a modifier cop and copped someone else than who we were meant to.
—> unless we happened to get a guilty on the list check, then we should out that
—> if a town cop dies, we know for sure they had an inno on the list check. If you don’t come out without guilty on your list check, it’s assumed you got an inno or you are modifier cop
@cops
do this :up:

this bit is optional :down:
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Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:25 pm

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Guys I actually got a redcheck on black last night
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Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:26 pm

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2.25
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Titus (E-1): Ranger, Black, JacksonVirgo, light_ganski, ketchup777
Black (2): Doctor Drew, Titus
light_ganski (1): Hu Tao
Ranger (1): usesPython
usesPython (1): Political Clout

Not Voting (1): Enchant

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-14 01:04:13).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.
I townread Alianna.

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Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:26 pm

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UNVOTE: serious comment?
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Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:27 pm

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??!??!!
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Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:27 pm

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you weren’t going to die whaaa I’m so confused
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Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:28 pm

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don’t answer if it’s a serious comment sorry, I understand, you’re getting it out before the night.
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Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:28 pm

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errr
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Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:29 pm

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In post 2292, ketchup777 wrote: UNVOTE: serious comment?
Pretty obviously not a serious comment given that they'd have come out with it way earlier
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Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:30 pm

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Folks we got a red check on ranger tomorrow
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Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:30 pm

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Should we all claim a redcheck now incase our modifier cop dies?

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