Mini 2332: A Mid-scummer Nights Dream II | GG

[Klick]

Klick has ew reads

Still think he's town though

And in the spirit of making right past wrongs, I am going to sheep him

VOTE: Aureal

(yes, I am aware votes aren't counted)

I had you bolded too, but decided to post it without you bolded so as not to alarm you

[DragonEater70]

See that's why your reads are ew

[DragonEater70]

I knew you were scumreading me

[Klick]

Fair enough
Which one is the most egregious?

[Klick]

I knew you were scumreading me

Yeah it didn't seem very well-disguised which is why I'm going for the upfront backup plan

[DragonEater70]

I knew you were scumreading me

Yeah it didn't seem very well-disguised which is why I'm going for the upfront backup plan

It's just that I can read your mind Klick, is all. I don't think it would've been particularly obvious to anyone else.

[DragonEater70]

Fair enough
Which one is the most egregious?

The scumread on me and the townread on Von Payne. It's not egregious to TR them in a vacuum but it's egregious to TR them over, say, Catgirls and Gimli.

[DragonEater70]

Btw if I had to rank my reads it would peobably go something like this:

--Gimli tier--
Gimli
--town--
Catgirls
Klick (note: your last few posts brought you above Sunflower but originally you were in the null town tier)
Sunflower
--null town--
Ehhh Idk anymore, maybe Kyoko but not really?
Maybe Aureal but not really?
--null--
Pretty much everyone else
--null scum--
Maaaaaaaaybe Von Payne but not really?
Prism
--

[DragonEater70]

The null town tier + VP are easily collapsable into null. I'm voting Aureal despite the nulltown read because I want to work with Klick on sving the game after we failed last time.

[DragonEater70]

Solving

[Klick]

Fair enough
Which one is the most egregious?

The scumread on me and the townread on Von Payne. It's not egregious to TR them in a vacuum but it's egregious to TR them over, say, Catgirls and Gimli.

You're underestimating Gimli quite badly
You might see something on Catgirls that I don't

[DragonEater70]

I don't get why you and Black think I am underestimating Gimli when last game I and Thomith were the ones who saw through him and I was trying to push him as scum.

This is not underestimating. It might be overestimating of my own ability to soulread him. Nevertheless it is a soulread based on A LOT of experience with Gimli.

[DragonEater70]

On Catgirls, I am not seeing anything specific but all their posts feel natural, not forced, and have town vibes

[Gimli]

I knew you were scumreading me

Yeah it didn't seem very well-disguised which is why I'm going for the upfront backup plan

DE is bleeding town tho?

[DragonEater70]

I don't get why you and Black think I am underestimating Gimli when last game I and Thomith were the ones who saw through him and I was trying to push him as scum.

To elaborate on this because it's probably not clear very clear what I am saying here:

If I were to underestimate Gimli as a scum player, then in that game I would have just thought the things he did were towny and wouldn't question them. But the fact that I did question it proves that I am very aware of Gimli's scum capabilities - because he was posting in an extremely towny style and yet I thought it was within his scumrange. Therefore, I AM aware of Gimli's scumrange. I don't think he's "out of his scumrange", I just don't think he's "playing well as scum" this game but rather that he's "playing mediocre as town". Which is also why I think Catgirls' scumread on him is funny - if he were scum, he would have looked a lot more towny and not awkward like they think he is here.

Pedit: I agree I'm bleeding town, which is why I said Klick's reads were pretty ew.

[Gimli]

ActionDan - IDK, null?
Gimli - just listen to dragoneater
Von Payne (Black/Doctor Drew hydra) - my initial impression on black's posting isn't good. I can see how DE can look over the top fake or whatever, but I was expecting her to see past the early eager leans as not a scummy thing. I don't like her insistence on saying DE should drop the townread on me given *evidence*, and that *failure* to do so makes him scum pocketing me or, whats even more egregious, SvS.
DragonEater70 - town
Kyoko Kirigiri - still town to me
Klick - never saw klick scumming but he says he hates it. underwhelming so far might fit that bill.
Hu Tao - hu taoing.
Prism - prisming.
Aureal - I can see the scumreads, but idk. playing a little different but not trying to appear towny like death note, could be town and still getting into the game.
Catgirl Chipotle (Alisae/MariaR hydra) - I think they are town.
Silver Ravens (GuyInFreezer/Dunnstral hydra) - I don't know. I think some of dunn's exaggeration might be scum indicative.
Sunflower (fireisredsir/JupiterXV hydra) - I don't know but fireisred seems like typical fireisred to me?
Ydrasse - ydrassing.

[DragonEater70]

Klick could you explain why did you want to avoid "alarming me", given that you scumread me? What is the value in not alarming me to that?

[DragonEater70]

Gimli, explain Dunn read?

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[Gimli]

Gimli, explain Dunn read?

he said I was being disingenuous about

what is meta

and that it was evidence of me being scum

I felt that even if my statements about it were contradictory (not trying to get into it again as I agree with fireisred its a pointless convo to have) they couldn't possibly be alignment indicative (from my standpoint anyway), and that dunn trying to push an apparent contradiction as a scummy thing was an artifice and not a real thought.

I felt similar about black's push on you: she notices you're townreading me when I wrote absolutely nothing worth anything, but overplays it as if she never saw an early soulread before and declares it scummy.

[DragonEater70]

Every time I roll town and am powertowning (like here or in Pizza Kids) I become sad that I didn't roll wolf and made the same super towny posts as wolf instead. Then I remember that I actually suck at playing scum.

But one day I will be able to do that. I promise.

Spoiler: for fireisred's eyes only

You shouldn't TR this though as I did it on purpose

Spoiler:

I am town though

Spoiler:

I hope you get the reference

[DragonEater70]

Gimli, explain Dunn read?

he said I was being disingenuous about

what is meta

and that it was evidence of me being scum

I felt that even if my statements about it were contradictory (not trying to get into it again as I agree with fireisred its a pointless convo to have) they couldn't possibly be alignment indicative (from my standpoint anyway), and that dunn trying to push an apparent contradiction as a scummy thing was an artifice and not a real thought.

I felt similar about black's push on you: she notices you're townreading me when I wrote absolutely nothing worth anything, but overplays it as if she never saw an early soulread before and declares it scummy.

Yeah that's what I was also feeling about Black

Makes sense on Dunn. Gonna reread his posts.

[DragonEater70]

Okay I guess Ravens could join the nullscum pile. Needs more sorting done.

[Klick]

Klick could you explain why did you want to avoid "alarming me", given that you scumread me? What is the value in not alarming me to that?

Because then we start talking about the baby scumread I have on you instead of waiting for it to flourish into a full-fledged, naturally-grown scumread, untainted by your awareness of it

[DragonEater70]

Yeah that's more or less what I assumed and was townreading you for, I just felt the wording was pretty strange.