Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Tenshi Hinanawi]

I do not have a counter proposal at this point, I was just looking at wagon members versus who they are on.

If I did vote any it would be Ichirin but even that feels weird?

[Koishi Komeiji]

I can buy a momentum argument, if you think the leading wagons are all town. Do you?

(You probably have stated reads that answer this but these names are HARD, shush)

[Sanae Kochiya]

Why are you scumreading Tenshi again? I think they're town tbh

I feel it in my bones

i could try producing a scumcase too but this is more something that comes after the fact to justify myself rather than a legitimate unbiased case so i doubt it would hold much worth

but to make it short, the general air around them / the pretty huge neutrality they show, our somewhat slow /

static gamestate indicates scum are not in a hurry to do things

/ are doing their own thing alone

I can see this argument about the current state of the game generally, but I'm not sure that points to Tenshi being scum in particular

[Yuuka Kazami]

I feel like Kagerou is whispering trust me at a subsonic level and, yeah. I want to yeet that.

[Tenshi Hinanawi]

I can buy a momentum argument, if you think the leading wagons are all town. Do you?

(You probably have stated reads that answer this but these names are HARD, shush)

It is more that I cannot find one of the multi vote wagons where I am confident everyone on it is town.

[Yuuka Kazami]

People aren't ATM machines that you can just draw money infinitely from on a credit card.
That's a weird way to put it Yuuka.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

I feel like Kagerou is whispering trust me at a subsonic level and, yeah. I want to yeet that.

trust me

[Yuuka Kazami]

No. :<

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

Why are you scumreading Tenshi again? I think they're town tbh

I feel it in my bones

i could try producing a scumcase too but this is more something that comes after the fact to justify myself rather than a legitimate unbiased case so i doubt it would hold much worth

but to make it short, the general air around them / the pretty huge neutrality they show, our somewhat slow /

static gamestate indicates scum are not in a hurry to do things

/ are doing their own thing alone

I can see this argument about the current state of the game generally, but I'm not sure that points to Tenshi being scum in particular

I mean, Tenshi is a slot that's been relatively spared of scrutiny since the start right?

Granted, you could make that case for a lot of people, i just think it points to Tenshi cause they both never received that much pressure and don't put themselves that fowards

[Yuuka Kazami]

Kagerou's play is very reactive. They're presenting it as a choice. But I don't really think it's townie. Getting in the way/being obstructive, while it makes them stick out, doesn't seem to be garnering any interpretable results.

I also think they're casually lying about minor things to hide themselves from scrutiny. It doesn't further the town's win condition.

[Koishi Komeiji]

I also think they're casually lying about minor things to hide themselves from scrutiny.

Do you have any examples of where you're seeing this?

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

I also think they're casually lying about minor things to hide themselves from scrutiny. It doesn't further the town's win condition.

[Yuuka Kazami]

You could've scrutinized them whenever you wanted, you don't seem to have an issue getting in people's way.
Why not tenshi who is generally trying to put themselves out there?

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

otherwise look, maybe you're not getting anything but if it wasn't working out for me i would absolutely try to play more traditionally

[Sanae Kochiya]

Why are you scumreading Tenshi again? I think they're town tbh

I feel it in my bones

i could try producing a scumcase too but this is more something that comes after the fact to justify myself rather than a legitimate unbiased case so i doubt it would hold much worth

but to make it short, the general air around them / the pretty huge neutrality they show, our somewhat slow /

static gamestate indicates scum are not in a hurry to do things

/ are doing their own thing alone

I can see this argument about the current state of the game generally, but I'm not sure that points to Tenshi being scum in particular

I mean, Tenshi is a slot that's been relatively spared of scrutiny since the start right?

Granted, you could make that case for a lot of people, i just think it points to Tenshi cause they both never received that much pressure and don't put themselves that fowards

Right so I guess my issue with this logic is that I think this can describe many people

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

You could've scrutinized them whenever you wanted, you don't seem to have an issue getting in people's way.
Why not tenshi who is generally trying to put themselves out there?

i'm sorry but i don'r get what you're saying here

[Koishi Komeiji]

I've lost the plot completely here too.

Just gonna step away and come back with fresh brain.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

Why are you scumreading Tenshi again? I think they're town tbh

I feel it in my bones

i could try producing a scumcase too but this is more something that comes after the fact to justify myself rather than a legitimate unbiased case so i doubt it would hold much worth

but to make it short, the general air around them / the pretty huge neutrality they show, our somewhat slow /

static gamestate indicates scum are not in a hurry to do things

/ are doing their own thing alone

I can see this argument about the current state of the game generally, but I'm not sure that points to Tenshi being scum in particular

I mean, Tenshi is a slot that's been relatively spared of scrutiny since the start right?

Granted, you could make that case for a lot of people, i just think it points to Tenshi cause they both never received that much pressure and don't put themselves that fowards

Right so I guess my issue with this logic is that I think this can describe many people

Are these many people in the room with us right now

no like really who else does this apply to ? I guess reisen but i personally TR her

[Clownpiece]

I have stared at the playerlist, and picked out the people who I think have given me enough ~vibes~ that I feel like they should make it past day 1. (List sorted by playerlist order, not by strength of read. I did not give it that much thought lmao)

Tenshi, Aya, Yuuka, Kagerou, Koishi, Eternity Larva, Marisa, Reisen, and Sanae

Which leaves me with [Kaguya, Ichirin, Daiyousei] for my day 1 elimination pool.

[Yuuka Kazami]

They say they're not in a position to push players traditionally, but pretty much, nothing is indicating that this is the case.
They're here, they're active, they're relatively cogent, and their opinions and points are not insane.
They can push whenever they want, they've chosen not to.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

I've lost the plot completely here too.

Just gonna step away and come back with fresh brain.

before you leave give me gun to head a read on Tenshi

[Clownpiece]

I feel like some people approach this game trying to play 5d chess, and when its happening in thread I just feel lost.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

They say they're not in a position to push players traditionally, but pretty much, nothing is indicating that this is the case.
They're here, they're active, they're relatively cogent, and their opinions and points are not insane.
They can push whenever they want, they've chosen not to.

Y-y-you really think my opinions and points are not insane?

And yeah look whatever confidence issues, i don't trust i'd be able to bring it home by playing normally so i'm doing it like that regardless

[Yuuka Kazami]

You could've scrutinized them whenever you wanted, you don't seem to have an issue getting in people's way.
Why not tenshi who is generally trying to put themselves out there?

i'm sorry but i don'r get what you're saying here

You could've scrutinized or gotten in their way like you've gotten in my or clown's way, but you haven't. Tenshi seems very willing, almost ethically constrained to respond to people. They "owe" people responses, they don't leave people hanging and say as much.
I don't feel like your play makes sense.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

You could've scrutinized them whenever you wanted, you don't seem to have an issue getting in people's way.
Why not tenshi who is generally trying to put themselves out there?

i'm sorry but i don'r get what you're saying here

You could've scrutinized or gotten in their way like you've gotten in my or clown's way, but you haven't. Tenshi seems very willing, almost ethically constrained to respond to people. They "owe" people responses, they don't leave people hanging and say as much.
I don't feel like your play makes sense.

Yeah exactly, i think that's scummy