In post 2937, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
The way to think of said person is that they are competent as groupscum, and they occupy the same kind of playstyle as somebody like.. wow this is actually quite difficult when i can't use names.
Uh, anyways, they're competent and have a pretty "from the sky" view of scum, they don't stick to one particular pattern and generally don't let their emotions get the better of them as scum. As town, their number one biggest town tell is bull-headed stubborness to where they CANNOT see out of their own POV and thoughts on what is "correct play"
Since we are talking through this, have you noticed how eager Clownpiece the Second is to flashwagon off Ichirin?
Somewhat, but I do want to be clear that this logic leads me to wonder if your Ichirin town read is in shambles?
Like if you are saying "Aya you must make a choice" and I gotta consider both sides its weird to me how CP the Second is just so eager to bury ichirin while looking for anything else to flashwagon.
In post 2937, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
The way to think of said person is that they are competent as groupscum, and they occupy the same kind of playstyle as somebody like.. wow this is actually quite difficult when i can't use names.
Uh, anyways, they're competent and have a pretty "from the sky" view of scum, they don't stick to one particular pattern and generally don't let their emotions get the better of them as scum. As town, their number one biggest town tell is bull-headed stubborness to where they CANNOT see out of their own POV and thoughts on what is "correct play"
Since we are talking through this, have you noticed how eager Clownpiece the Second is to flashwagon off Ichirin?
Somewhat, but I do want to be clear that this logic leads me to wonder if your Ichirin town read is in shambles?
Not shambles. If the logic is right I would have to be wrong though, yes.
I think the utilitarian paranoid way of going about the claim is killing it anyway because if she's scum she could just. Not cast the IC-stump spell. It's kinda lose-lose for scum!Sanae but just not killing herself tonight will probably force the vote to be on her tomorrow as opposed to Sanae gets stumped and we can focus on other slots.
If Sanae is scum she will have a roleblock on 2 MP that she will use and then claim to be roleblocked tomorrow we will kill her and have wasted a cycle and have no Koishi outcome.
i am leaning towards Sanae's claim coming from town
specifically because she dies when using an ability without enough MP.
she is either explicitly lying about this part of the claim or is just town, as scum roles backfiring and resulting in death is just...not a thing they would ever opt for so why include it in the first place?
and that's not really something i'd expect scum to think of when constructing a fake claim. unless scum are provided fakeclaims from the mod, which i guess is possible, but the fact that roles don't inform alignment makes me think this probably isn't a thing?
If Sanae is town sanae treestumps herself and we kill Ichirin. If Ichirin is town this is the worst outcome cause we lose 2 townies and I have to listen to Sanae complain about me for days on end.
So basically if Ichirin is town I always wanna murder Sanae. The question is, is Ichirin town.
specifically because she dies when using an ability without enough MP.
she is either explicitly lying about this part of the claim or is just town, as scum roles backfiring and resulting in death is just...not a thing they would ever opt for so why include it in the first place?
and that's not really something i'd expect scum to think of when constructing a fake claim. unless scum are provided fakeclaims from the mod, which i guess is possible, but the fact that roles don't inform alignment makes me think this probably isn't a thing?
This argument doesn't make a lot of sense to me because it isn't internally consistent. How can the claim itself be from town due to the self die mechanic when you are arguing that roles don't inform alignment for a different aspect?
In post 2960, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
How can the claim itself be from town due to the self die mechanic when you are arguing that roles don't inform alignment for a different aspect?