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Post Post #2950 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:27 am

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In post 2946, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
In post 2937, Koishi Komeiji wrote: The way to think of said person is that they are competent as groupscum, and they occupy the same kind of playstyle as somebody like.. wow this is actually quite difficult when i can't use names.


Uh, anyways, they're competent and have a pretty "from the sky" view of scum, they don't stick to one particular pattern and generally don't let their emotions get the better of them as scum. As town, their number one biggest town tell is bull-headed stubborness to where they CANNOT see out of their own POV and thoughts on what is "correct play"
Since we are talking through this, have you noticed how eager Clownpiece the Second is to flashwagon off Ichirin?
Somewhat, but I do want to be clear that this logic leads me to wonder if your Ichirin town read is in shambles?
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Post Post #2951 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:27 am

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Like if you are saying "Aya you must make a choice" and I gotta consider both sides its weird to me how CP the Second is just so eager to bury ichirin while looking for anything else to flashwagon.
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Post Post #2952 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:28 am

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In post 2950, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
In post 2946, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
In post 2937, Koishi Komeiji wrote: The way to think of said person is that they are competent as groupscum, and they occupy the same kind of playstyle as somebody like.. wow this is actually quite difficult when i can't use names.


Uh, anyways, they're competent and have a pretty "from the sky" view of scum, they don't stick to one particular pattern and generally don't let their emotions get the better of them as scum. As town, their number one biggest town tell is bull-headed stubborness to where they CANNOT see out of their own POV and thoughts on what is "correct play"
Since we are talking through this, have you noticed how eager Clownpiece the Second is to flashwagon off Ichirin?
Somewhat, but I do want to be clear that this logic leads me to wonder if your Ichirin town read is in shambles?
Not shambles. If the logic is right I would have to be wrong though, yes.
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Post Post #2953 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:30 am

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Like I still town read Ichirin

But what is the value of being gut checked if I don't bother actually chrcking my gut on things and go with my stagnant thoughts 100% of the time?
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Post Post #2954 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:33 am

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ANYWAY: Sanae Knowledge. Patchouli Kochiya.

I think the utilitarian paranoid way of going about the claim is killing it anyway because if she's scum she could just. Not cast the IC-stump spell. It's kinda lose-lose for scum!Sanae but just not killing herself tonight will probably force the vote to be on her tomorrow as opposed to Sanae gets stumped and we can focus on other slots.
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Post Post #2955 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:37 am

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If Sanae is scum she will have a roleblock on 2 MP that she will use and then claim to be roleblocked tomorrow we will kill her and have wasted a cycle and have no Koishi outcome.
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Post Post #2956 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:39 am

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Or a second kill.
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Post Post #2957 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:40 am

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i am leaning towards Sanae's claim coming from town

specifically because she dies when using an ability without enough MP.

she is either explicitly lying about this part of the claim or is just town, as scum roles backfiring and resulting in death is just...not a thing they would ever opt for so why include it in the first place?

and that's not really something i'd expect scum to think of when constructing a fake claim. unless scum are provided fakeclaims from the mod, which i guess is possible, but the fact that roles don't inform alignment makes me think this probably isn't a thing?
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Post Post #2958 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:41 am

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If Sanae is town sanae treestumps herself and we kill Ichirin. If Ichirin is town this is the worst outcome cause we lose 2 townies and I have to listen to Sanae complain about me for days on end.

So basically if Ichirin is town I always wanna murder Sanae. The question is, is Ichirin town.

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Post Post #2959 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:42 am

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I am in line to vote, so it's via phone posting only for a bit.
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Post Post #2960 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:43 am

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In post 2957, Eternity Larva wrote: i am leaning towards Sanae's claim coming from town

specifically because she dies when using an ability without enough MP.

she is either explicitly lying about this part of the claim or is just town, as scum roles backfiring and resulting in death is just...not a thing they would ever opt for so why include it in the first place?

and that's not really something i'd expect scum to think of when constructing a fake claim. unless scum are provided fakeclaims from the mod, which i guess is possible, but the fact that roles don't inform alignment makes me think this probably isn't a thing?
This argument doesn't make a lot of sense to me because it isn't internally consistent. How can the claim itself be from town due to the self die mechanic when you are arguing that roles don't inform alignment for a different aspect?
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Post Post #2961 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:43 am

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In post 2959, Koishi Komeiji wrote: I am in line to vote, so it's via phone posting only for a bit.
In line to vote... Oh, like for real for real. lol
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Post Post #2962 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:43 am

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In post 2959, Koishi Komeiji wrote: I am in line to vote, so it's via phone posting only for a bit.
As in real life elections to be clear.
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Post Post #2963 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:43 am

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Civic duty and all that.
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Post Post #2964 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:44 am

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In post 2960, Aya Shameimaru wrote: How can the claim itself be from town due to the self die mechanic when you are arguing that roles don't inform alignment for a different aspect?
that's a fair point LOL
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Post Post #2965 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:45 am

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In post 2958, Aya Shameimaru wrote: I have to listen to Sanae complain about me for days on end.
I mean if we fuck up that bad congrats you get to be a masochist crow.
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Post Post #2966 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:45 am

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Who is on the ticket in Gensyoko district?
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Post Post #2967 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:45 am

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Mostly water reclamation districts and a very hotly contested chief prosecutor role.
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Post Post #2968 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:49 am

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My paranoid fear here is that both are town.

And the team is something like Dai-deepwolf-deepwolf.
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Post Post #2969 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:49 am

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In post 2967, Koishi Komeiji wrote: Mostly water reclamation districts and a very hotly contested chief prosecutor role.
.... What a scoop! Aya shameimaru here reporting live on....
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Post Post #2970 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:50 am

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i think roles not informing alignment is fucking with my head and i should just stop trying to think about it

even though that's literally all i've done ever since the role claims started flowing
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Post Post #2971 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:51 am

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In post 2968, Koishi Komeiji wrote: My paranoid fear here is that both are town.

And the team is something like Dai-deepwolf-deepwolf.
I mean I would be cool with limming Dai
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Post Post #2972 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:51 am

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we are not switching last minute to dai
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Post Post #2973 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:52 am

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In post 2725, Yukari Yakumo wrote: Ichirin Kumoi [E-2]: Yuuka Kazami, Reisen Udongein Inaba, Tenshi Hinanawi, Sanae Kochiya, Eternity Larva
Sanae Kochiya [E-2]: Marisa Kirisame, Clownpiece, Kagerou Imaizumi, Daiyousei, Kaguya Houraisan

Not Voting [3]: Aya Shameimaru, Koishi Komeiji, Ichirin Kumoi
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Post Post #2974 (ISO) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:53 am

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Ichirin ELI5 your role again?

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