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Post Post #2925 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:33 pm

Post by Alianna »

5.01
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With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to secure an execution.

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I townread Alianna.

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Mini Normal 2337 is full, pending launch!
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Post Post #2926 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:30 pm

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In post 2917, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2900, Enchant wrote:
In post 2899, usesPython wrote:
In post 2897, Enchant wrote: If i was 100% confident i wouldn't bother talking. If anything i starting see it as policy.
Who do you want outside of policy
Ketchup, You, maybe Hu Tao.
Terrible reads
If you townread PC then who is Enchant allowed to think is scum?
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Post Post #2927 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:44 pm

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In post 2708, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2707, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 2704, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2694, Political Clout wrote: I think I agree with python that we mafia also couldn't know the setup. just that their were maybe a plethora of investigative roles. I probably need to think more on it.
:lol:
this has potential to be the funniest slip of all time

but I’m very much down for a black lim
I just fear i might be the next nk so might delay a bit
But I got an inno on PC! Lol

Also, Ketchup sometimes the most fun part of the game is being in the dead thread and yelling about how dumb town is being.
have fun yelling at ussss
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Post Post #2928 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:47 pm

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In post 2228, Doctor Drew wrote: And kinda a not so good vibe from Python
In post 2337, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2336, usesPython wrote: We're taking full credit for being the first to figure out Ranger was scum (idk if we were the first but we're still taking credit)
I had the same thought yesterday, expect I misread a post from you and thought you were buddies with her as well lol

Wait, does this mean that sometimes Enchant really is scum here as well??

VOTE: Ranger
In post 2503, Doctor Drew wrote: Also, why is it so crazy to think I wouldn't NK Jackson?

I don't really get the progression from Titus and Ketchup.......though I can't think of a viable reason that they would be scum and using the NK, to lock me town I guess?

I don't think either of them think they can pocket me(actually I believe Ranger thinks she could, so that pushes the scale slightly to her as scum).

But right now, I kinda am town leaning Ranger......just the pieces aren't adding up right as for her to be scum
as far as I can tell Drew sussed me, Enchant and Python. I can’t find him saying anything about Hu Tao
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Post Post #2929 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 10:48 pm

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since I’m off school today I might go colour in some vote counts. I’ll try keep it to a few v large posts
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Post Post #2930 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:11 pm

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In post 2928, ketchup777 wrote: as far as I can tell Drew sussed me, Enchant and Python. I can’t find him saying anything about Hu Tao
Drew wasn't sussing us, he misread one of our posts
In post 2248, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2229, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2228, Doctor Drew wrote: And kinda a not so good vibe from Python
tell me more tell me more.
I just get a vibe that python is working to actively protect Ranger(and in turn push Titus), and I feel like Titus just showed herself as town as well.

I have been going back and forth on Titus/Ranger, but this feels right finally
In post 2252, usesPython wrote:
In post 2248, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2229, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2228, Doctor Drew wrote: And kinda a not so good vibe from Python
tell me more tell me more.
I just get a vibe that python is working to actively protect Ranger(and in turn push Titus), and I feel like Titus just showed herself as town as well.

I have been going back and forth on Titus/Ranger, but this feels right finally
Drew give us the good stuff, we literally want Ranger dead and just defended Titus
In post 2254, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2226, usesPython wrote:
In post 2221, Titus wrote: Ranger was just waiting for people to start seeing me as town. She's wanting the whole day to focus on me. Like uses said, she's better than this. Ideally, people should have let me defend myself from Ranger's bogus case but still.

Uses, do you think there's any possibility of tunneled Ranger?
The problem with the tunneled town!Ranger theory is that normally when she's tunneled she starts twisting dayplay in the worst light possible while mech stays fairly solid (though minimal if it's not necessary). Here we're seeing the opposite; With the exception of the "no less vs at least" part if you take the mech at face value the dayplay argument is pretty solid. The problem is the mech being twisted with false equivalences causes the dayplay argument to fall apart, it's just the reverse of what kind of mistake we'd expect to see if Ranger was tunneled
Python, I think I misread this post and coupled it with the town tell I saw Titus make.

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Post Post #2931 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:15 pm

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In post 2926, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 2917, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2900, Enchant wrote: Ketchup, You, maybe Hu Tao.
Terrible reads
If you townread PC then who is Enchant allowed to think is scum?
:up: :up: :up:
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Post Post #2932 (ISO) » Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:37 pm

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In post 2930, usesPython wrote:
In post 2928, ketchup777 wrote: as far as I can tell Drew sussed me, Enchant and Python. I can’t find him saying anything about Hu Tao
Drew wasn't sussing us, he misread one of our posts
In post 2248, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2229, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2228, Doctor Drew wrote: And kinda a not so good vibe from Python
tell me more tell me more.
I just get a vibe that python is working to actively protect Ranger(and in turn push Titus), and I feel like Titus just showed herself as town as well.

I have been going back and forth on Titus/Ranger, but this feels right finally
In post 2252, usesPython wrote:
In post 2248, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2229, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2228, Doctor Drew wrote: And kinda a not so good vibe from Python
tell me more tell me more.
I just get a vibe that python is working to actively protect Ranger(and in turn push Titus), and I feel like Titus just showed herself as town as well.

I have been going back and forth on Titus/Ranger, but this feels right finally
Drew give us the good stuff, we literally want Ranger dead and just defended Titus
In post 2254, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2226, usesPython wrote:
In post 2221, Titus wrote: Ranger was just waiting for people to start seeing me as town. She's wanting the whole day to focus on me. Like uses said, she's better than this. Ideally, people should have let me defend myself from Ranger's bogus case but still.

Uses, do you think there's any possibility of tunneled Ranger?
The problem with the tunneled town!Ranger theory is that normally when she's tunneled she starts twisting dayplay in the worst light possible while mech stays fairly solid (though minimal if it's not necessary). Here we're seeing the opposite; With the exception of the "no less vs at least" part if you take the mech at face value the dayplay argument is pretty solid. The problem is the mech being twisted with false equivalences causes the dayplay argument to fall apart, it's just the reverse of what kind of mistake we'd expect to see if Ranger was tunneled
Python, I think I misread this post and coupled it with the town tell I saw Titus make.

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Post Post #2933 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:04 am

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As i remember Hu Tao townreads Kethup.


I don't remember Hu Tao expressing townread on PC.
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Post Post #2934 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:11 am

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In post 2933, Enchant wrote: As i remember Hu Tao townreads Kethup.


I don't remember Hu Tao expressing townread on PC.
In post 2630, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2613, Political Clout wrote:
In post 1334, Hu Tao wrote: I was so excited for this game since I was finally cop and now I got tricked I feel deflated today ngl :lol:
I think this is what black quoted. but looking at it now It can be made by any alignment. it just feels town to me though. it's a good post. feels sincere and rings true. idk.
I think you and ketchup are town. Not sure who is last scum though
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Post Post #2935 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:30 am

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before I forget I had a theory that scum didn’t request fast night to slow our momentum down? thoughts?
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Post Post #2936 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:30 am

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suggesting maybe we were on the right track
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Post Post #2937 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:30 am

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if someone forgot as town tho then say
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Post Post #2938 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:40 am

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In post 2926, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 2917, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 2900, Enchant wrote:
In post 2899, usesPython wrote:
In post 2897, Enchant wrote: If i was 100% confident i wouldn't bother talking. If anything i starting see it as policy.
Who do you want outside of policy
Ketchup, You, maybe Hu Tao.
Terrible reads
If you townread PC then who is Enchant allowed to think is scum?
I mostly meant me being scum here
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Post Post #2939 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:41 am

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Idk. I think Drew dies here with Enchant scum. So o think we eliminate enchant
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Post Post #2940 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:33 am

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In post 2939, Hu Tao wrote: Idk. I think Drew dies here with Enchant scum. So o think we eliminate enchant
If you were scum in the final 6 we had who do you think you’d NK and why?
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Post Post #2941 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:41 am

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If Enchant's scum here then light wouldn't be faking a red check on one of like two people who'd actually have a decent chance of being VT (Ranger cause fakeclaim meta and Ketchup cause VT crumbs)
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Post Post #2942 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:45 am

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@Python
@Political Clout

I guess you are last allies i have in this game.

It's useless to talk with Hu Tao, Hu Tao always accuses me every game due some bias (look at any previous game where Hu Tao first to yell ENCHANT OBVIOUS SCUM I KNOW), so i save my time.

I don't strongly believe Hu Tao is mafia, i just find suspicious that Black had practically zero support last day and decided to 1vs1 Hu Tao out of blue.


I am willing to try to work with @Ketchup as well (not like i have choice), but i would like to avoid so.
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Post Post #2943 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:50 am

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In post 2941, usesPython wrote: If Enchant's scum here then light wouldn't be faking a red check on one of like two people who'd actually have a decent chance of being VT (Ranger cause fakeclaim meta and Ketchup cause VT crumbs)
Ok PC would also have VT equity there too in that world but still, there's other people she could have red checked that would be safe
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I guess you are last allies i have in this game.

It's useless to talk with Hu Tao, Hu Tao always accuses me every game due some bias (look at any previous game where Hu Tao first to yell ENCHANT OBVIOUS SCUM I KNOW), so i save my time.

I don't strongly believe Hu Tao is mafia, i just find suspicious that Black had practically zero support last day and decided to 1vs1 Hu Tao out of blue.


I am willing to try to work with @Ketchup as well (not like i have choice), but i would like to avoid so.
We can compromise on Hu Tao if necessary at EOD, we'd rather just lim PC here though
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Post Post #2944 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:51 am

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In post 2940, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 2939, Hu Tao wrote: Idk. I think Drew dies here with Enchant scum. So o think we eliminate enchant
If you were scum in the final 6 we had who do you think you’d NK and why?
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Post Post #2945 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:53 am

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I think Enchant > Python wins the game if Enchant isn't scum
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Post Post #2946 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:53 am

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In post 2945, Hu Tao wrote: I think Enchant > Python wins the game if Enchant isn't scum
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Post Post #2947 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:55 am

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In post 2945, Hu Tao wrote: I think Enchant > Python wins the game if Enchant isn't scum
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Post Post #2948 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:02 am

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:lol:
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Post Post #2949 (ISO) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:24 am

Post by ketchup777 »

Day 1

In post 22, DragonEater70 wrote:
1.01
Votecount 1.01


DkKoba
(3):
Doctor Drew
, ketchup777, usesPython
usesPython (2):
Laplacian, DkKoba


Not Voting (8):
JacksonVirgo
,
Black
,
Titus
,
light_ganski
,
Ranger
, Arko, Hu Tao, Political Clout
In post 64, DragonEater70 wrote:
1.02
Votecount 1.02


DkKoba
(3):
Doctor Drew
, ketchup777,
Black

usesPython (2):
Laplacian
,
DkKoba

ketchup777 (2): Political Clout,
Titus

Doctor Drew
(1):
light_ganski

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger


Not Voting (4):
JacksonVirgo
, Arko, Hu Tao, usesPython
In post 89, Alianna wrote:
1.03
Votecount 1.03


DkKoba
(3):
Doctor Drew
, ketchup777,
Black

usesPython (2):
Laplacian
,
DkKoba

ketchup777 (2):
Political Clout
,
Titus

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

JacksonVirgo
(1):
light_ganski


Not Voting (4):
JacksonVirgo
, Arko, Hu Tao, usesPython
In post 125, Alianna wrote:
1.04
Votecount 1.04


light_ganski
(3):
Black
,
DkKoba
, usesPython
ketchup777 (2): Political Clout,
Titus

DkKoba
(1):
Doctor Drew

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

JacksonVirgo
(1):
light_ganski


Not Voting (4):
JacksonVirgo
, Arko, Hu Tao, ketchup777
In post 150, Alianna wrote:
1.05
Votecount 1.05


light_ganski
(3):
Black
,
DkKoba
, usesPython
ketchup777 (3): Political Clout,
Titus
,
JacksonVirgo

DkKoba
(1):
Doctor Drew

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

JacksonVirgo
(1):
light_ganski

Titus
(1): ketchup777

Not Voting (2): Arko, Hu Tao
In post 211, Alianna wrote:
1.06
Votecount 1.06


light_ganski
(3):
Black
,
DkKoba
, usesPython
ketchup777 (2):
Titus
,
JacksonVirgo

DkKoba
(1):
Doctor Drew

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

JacksonVirgo
(1):
light_ganski

Titus
(1): ketchup777

Not Voting (3): Arko, Hu Tao, Political Clout
In post 251, Alianna wrote:
1.07
Votecount 1.07


ketchup777 (3):
Titus
,
JacksonVirgo
,
Black

light_ganski
(2):
DkKoba
, usesPython
DkKoba
(1):
Doctor Drew

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

JacksonVirgo
(1):
light_ganski

Titus
(1): ketchup777

Not Voting (3): Arko, Hu Tao, Political Clout
In post 275, Alianna wrote:
1.08
Votecount 1.08


light_ganski
(4):
DkKoba
, usesPython,
Black
,
Doctor Drew

ketchup777 (2):
Titus
,
JacksonVirgo

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

JacksonVirgo
(1):
light_ganski

Arko (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (3): Arko, Hu Tao, Political Clout
In post 325, Alianna wrote:
1.09
Votecount 1.09


light_ganski
(3): usesPython,
Black
,
Doctor Drew

ketchup777 (2):
Titus
,
JacksonVirgo

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

JacksonVirgo
(1):
light_ganski

Arko (1): ketchup777
Titus
(1):
DkKoba


Not Voting (3): Arko, Hu Tao, Political Clout
In post 353, Alianna wrote:
1.10
Votecount 1.10


Laplacian
(3): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
, usesPython
light_ganski
(2):
Black
,
Doctor Drew

ketchup777 (2):
Titus
,
JacksonVirgo

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

Arko (1): ketchup777
Titus
(1):
DkKoba


Not Voting (2): Arko, Political Clout
In post 411, Alianna wrote:
1.11
Votecount 1.11


Laplacian
(4): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
, usesPython,
Black

ketchup777 (2):
Titus
,
JacksonVirgo

usesPython (2):
Laplacian
,
DkKoba

light_ganski
(1):
Doctor Drew

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger


Not Voting (3): Arko, Political Clout, ketchup777
In post 525, Alianna wrote:
1.12
Votecount 1.12


Laplacian
(3): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black

ketchup777 (2):
Titus
,
JacksonVirgo

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

light_ganski
(1):
Doctor Drew

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
Ranger
(1):
DkKoba


Not Voting (3): Arko, Political Clout, ketchup777
In post 575, Alianna wrote:
1.13
Votecount 1.13


Laplacian
(3): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black

Ranger
(2):
DkKoba
, ketchup777
ketchup777 (1):
Titus

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

light_ganski
(1):
Doctor Drew

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
Doctor Drew
(1):
JacksonVirgo


Not Voting (2): Arko, Political Clout
In post 675, Alianna wrote:
1.14
Votecount 1.14


Laplacian
(3): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black

Ranger
(2):
DkKoba
, ketchup777
light_ganski
(2):
Doctor Drew
, Political Clout
ketchup777 (1):
Titus

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

Hu Tao (1):
Ranger

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
Doctor Drew
(1):
JacksonVirgo


Not Voting (1): Arko
In post 700, Alianna wrote:
1.15
Votecount 1.15


Laplacian
(3): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black

light_ganski
(3):
Doctor Drew
, Political Clout,
Ranger

Ranger
(2):
DkKoba
, ketchup777
ketchup777 (1):
Titus

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
Doctor Drew
(1):
JacksonVirgo


Not Voting (1): Arko
In post 750, Alianna wrote:
1.16
Votecount 1.16


Laplacian
(4): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black
, ketchup777
light_ganski
(3):
Doctor Drew
, Political Clout,
Ranger

Ranger
(1):
DkKoba

ketchup777 (1):
Titus

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
Doctor Drew
(1):
JacksonVirgo


Not Voting (1): Arko
In post 825, Alianna wrote:
1.17
Votecount 1.17


Laplacian
(E-2): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black
, ketchup777,
Ranger

light_ganski
(3):
Doctor Drew
, Political Clout,
Titus

Ranger
(1):
DkKoba

usesPython (1):
Laplacian

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
Doctor Drew
(1):
JacksonVirgo


Not Voting (1): Arko
In post 875, Alianna wrote:
1.18
Votecount 1.18


Laplacian
(4): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black
,
Ranger

light_ganski
(4):
Doctor Drew
, Political Clout,
Titus
,
Laplacian

Ranger
(1):
DkKoba

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
Doctor Drew
(1):
JacksonVirgo

ketchup777 (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (1): Arko
In post 950, Alianna wrote:
1.19
Votecount 1.19


Laplacian
(4): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black
,
Ranger

light_ganski
(3):
Doctor Drew
,
Titus
,
Laplacian

Ranger
(1):
DkKoba

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
Doctor Drew
(1):
JacksonVirgo

ketchup777 (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (2): Arko, Political Clout
In post 978, Alianna wrote:
1.20
Votecount 1.20


Laplacian
(4): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black
,
Ranger

light_ganski
(4):
Doctor Drew
,
Titus
,
Laplacian
,
JacksonVirgo

Ranger
(1):
DkKoba

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
ketchup777 (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (2): Arko, Political Clout
In post 1008, Alianna wrote:
1.21
Votecount 1.21


Laplacian
(E-2): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black
,
Ranger
,
JacksonVirgo

light_ganski
(3):
Doctor Drew
,
Titus
,
Laplacian

Ranger
(1):
DkKoba

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
ketchup777 (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (2): Arko, Political Clout

In post 1031, Alianna wrote:
1.22
Votecount 1.22


Laplacian
(E-1): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black
,
Ranger
, Political Clout,
DkKoba

light_ganski
(4):
Doctor Drew
,
Titus
,
Laplacian
,
JacksonVirgo

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
ketchup777 (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (1): Arko

In post 1055, Alianna wrote:
1.FINAL
Votecount 1.FINAL


Laplacian (EXECUTED): Hu Tao,
light_ganski
,
Black
,
Ranger
, Political Clout,
DkKoba
,
Doctor Drew

light_ganski
(3):
Titus
,
Laplacian
,
JacksonVirgo

DkKoba
(1): usesPython
ketchup777 (1): ketchup777

Not Voting (1): Arko

With 13 players alive, it took 7 votes to secure an execution.

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