Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Yuuka Kazami]

Someone mentioned receiving fruit and I recall Larvae had a flipped role ability that was a fruit that did nothing.

I forgot who said they got it.
If they’d been blocked, they wouldn’t have gotten a fruit and there did not appear to be a modifier for why the fruit went through.

So either there is another fruit vendor person or, I dunno.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I received a Dango from Larva. Pretty sure that means I'm confirmed town!

UwU

[Yuuka Kazami]

Oh.
Why did that go through?

And does that mean Larva both shot at someone and threw a dango.

I forgot if it was a reflect or a redirect.

I don’t think Larvae needed to be the shooter and I don’t think they’d have liked to risk their position so I’ll go with redirect.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I am the fucking best.

I redirected all abilities that targetted Koishi to Larva.

[Sanae Kochiya]

Idk but something happened and my role didn't go through, and I'm not the reason for it

To my understanding both the "Active: kill yourself to skip MP" and "Spellcard: spend 3MP to IC and then treestump" are two different 1-shots. Are you saying you have 0 shots of both of these right now?

1. I already claimed I have 0 shots of anything now
2. I don't really know what you mean/your understanding of my role is wrong

I had the ability to use the philosopher's stone (costs 3MP), and picked the 'IC -> untouchable -> treestump' affect to activate

I do not have 3MP, but I'm able to use spellcards even if I do not have enough MP; it just kills me after the affect activates -> I think this is a passive ability but I have to double-check my rolecard

The effect didn't activate so I'm not dead

[Sanae Kochiya]

Like Dai at least has - oh Eternity was trying to save her by voting Ichirin
And Marisa has a whole case on me

You're just, like, voting me without thinking about it, as you admit yourself. There's no nuance here, or anything vaguely reads based - it's an easy place for scum to stick their vote here given the general suspicion

I mean I think you're lying about mechanics, there's no need for reads there because town has no reason to lie about it and what you're saying so far doesn't actually make mechanical sense

Ok, and I'm saying given that I know I'm not lying - I think that retreating into a mechanics based read is scummy

[Kaguya Houraisan]

No, it's under my general 'use spellcard' ability (magic supremacy), which is active/night

[Sanae Kochiya]

Yes
Philosopher's stone

Is a night/spellcard
Which I have access to from my main role (which is active/night), which describes how the magic/MP system works

[Sanae Kochiya]

So my understanding is that something blocked that active/night ability that powers my magic abilities/ability to use spellcards

[Yuuka Kazami]

Whelp, I don’t feel good.

I shall go do something less taxing like,
Sitting very still I guess.

Peace.

I don’t really get their strong willed night ability.

Marisa when did you say you received the fruit?

[Sanae Kochiya]

She said she got it right at daystart

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Ok, and I'm saying given that I know I'm not lying - I think that retreating into a mechanics based read is scummy

I can accept that it's possible that you're misunderstanding/miscommunicating what your abilities actually do, I just think it's way more likely it comes from just lying about abilities.

Can you properly fullclaim magic supremacy?

[Sanae Kochiya]

How do you know it's called that? Is that like a flavor thing from the game?

[Yuuka Kazami]

She said she got it right at daystart

Okay so that doesn’t explain why their dango went through.

[Sanae Kochiya]

I don't think Tenshi globally roleblocked based on the fact that went through

[Kaguya Houraisan]

How do you know it's called that? Is that like a flavor thing from the game?

No, it's under my general 'use spellcard' ability (magic supremacy), which is active/night

[Sanae Kochiya]

Ok, and I'm saying given that I know I'm not lying - I think that retreating into a mechanics based read is scummy

I can accept that it's possible that you're misunderstanding/miscommunicating what your abilities actually do, I just think it's way more likely it comes from just lying about abilities.

Can you properly fullclaim magic supremacy?

Eh fair enuf

It describes that I have more spellcards than most people, and how the MP system works
I get 1 MP each day + start with one at the beginning kf the game
1 MP to activate the basic affect of the spellcard
2 MP lets me use two at once, or use the high-level version of the spellcard
3mp let's me use philosopher's stone, which had 3 affects, and I choose one (chose the IC -> untouchable -> treestump)

And ends with - I can use the spellcard without enough MP but I do after it activates

A few more things about MP are detailed in a passive ability, namely I can only activate two spellcards over the course of the game

[Sanae Kochiya]

EBWAP

I die after it activates

[Kaguya Houraisan]

What happens if you try to use a spellcard without using magic supremacy? And if you can use a spellcard without magic supremacy what happens if you don't have enough MP?

[Yuuka Kazami]

I don't think Tenshi globally roleblocked based on the fact that went through

I’m not lying about what happened to me tho.

So like.

I find it difficult to believe that there’s another role out there with multi block or multiple players that role blocked.

I think a towns person that specifically wanted you to live would’ve just claimed that they stopped you on purpose

[Sanae Kochiya]

I don't know, as best as I can tell I have to use magic supremacy to activate a spellcard because I need to use MP

Honestly I'm not sure, that's thw way I'm reading it. I think magic supremacy basically explains

how

I can access spellcards (?), I think when I'm using a spellcard I'm functionally using magic supremacy.

So if I use a spellcard without enough MP (and it activates) I just die, regardless of if I explictly say I'm using that action

[Sanae Kochiya]

I don't think Tenshi globally roleblocked based on the fact that went through

I’m not lying about what happened to me tho.

So like.

I find it difficult to believe that there’s another role out there with multi block or multiple players that role blocked.

I think a towns person that specifically wanted you to live would’ve just claimed that they stopped you on purpose

Yes, that's my point

[Sanae Kochiya]

I'm confused why you got roleblocked though

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I don't know, as best as I can tell I have to use magic supremacy to activate a spellcard because I need to use MP

Honestly I'm not sure, that's thw way I'm reading it. I think magic supremacy basically explains

how

I can access spellcards (?), I think when I'm using a spellcard I'm functionally using magic supremacy.

So if I use a spellcard without enough MP (and it activates) I just die, regardless of if I explictly say I'm using that action

Can you ask the mod?

[Sanae Kochiya]

Basically all I'm trying to say for after I flip - there's an unclaimed roleblock or something on me, probably from scum

That's all I'm trying to say about it