Mini 2332: A Mid-scummer Nights Dream II | GG

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Hang on now I'm seeing two different theories one about protecting and one about role blocking what one are we basing this on now? zz

[Von Payne]

I cant belive this story. Im sorry if by 0.01% chance im wrong.

Im not changing my vote

Ok scum

[Von Payne]

There was nothing stated about the game being bastard I recall and having hidden powers is pretty up there on the bastard part.

It's not really the theory in itself I take issue with though, sure I can believe it. What I'm having trouble is even if everything you're saying is true your actions don't make sense to me considering you targetted two people you were townreading (or at the very least not scumreading) and the reasoning I saw was us saying "don't target me."

That's just odd in and of itself.

Where did you get that reasoning from?

[Von Payne]

Hang on now I'm seeing two different theories one about protecting and one about role blocking what one are we basing this on now? zz

I mean just read my posts. I laid it out pretty clearly

[Catgirl Chipotle]

There was nothing stated about the game being bastard I recall and having hidden powers is pretty up there on the bastard part.

It's not really the theory in itself I take issue with though, sure I can believe it. What I'm having trouble is even if everything you're saying is true your actions don't make sense to me considering you targetted two people you were townreading (or at the very least not scumreading) and the reasoning I saw was us saying "don't target me."

That's just odd in and of itself.

Where did you get that reasoning from?

You're the one who said it.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Alright yeah I think I'm just gonna lay out all these contradictions to Alisae and see what they say

[Von Payne]

There was nothing stated about the game being bastard I recall and having hidden powers is pretty up there on the bastard part.

It's not really the theory in itself I take issue with though, sure I can believe it. What I'm having trouble is even if everything you're saying is true your actions don't make sense to me considering you targetted two people you were townreading (or at the very least not scumreading) and the reasoning I saw was us saying "don't target me."

That's just odd in and of itself.

Where did you get that reasoning from?

You're the one who said it.

What are you talking about?

[Von Payne]

What I'm having trouble is even if everything you're saying is true your actions don't make sense to me considering you targetted two people you were townreading (or at the very least not scumreading) and the reasoning I saw was us saying "don't target me."

Like how could you possibly ignore the other reasons we recruited you/Sunflower and reach the conclusion that we wanted to roleblock ya'll? Are you even reading what we are saying?

[Ydrasse]

i don’t rlly feel that kyoko is a wolf but i don’t feel strongly enough about it to get into the weeds of defense

make of this hedging what you will

[Catgirl Chipotle]

You're basically saying you thought you were a hidden jailkeeper and are confused on why I find your target choice strange.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

i don’t rlly feel that kyoko is a wolf but i don’t feel strongly enough about it to get into the weeds of defense

make of this hedging what you will

How dare you not have a clear answer 24/7. Wolfy tbh

[Ydrasse]

i still feel that von panyes role is more elegant as a wolf one and i think the current conversation isn’t really doing a lot to dissuade that

i need to reread the flipped wolf role but it kind of feels like the power level in this game is wonky if it’s town idk

[Ydrasse]

said with the voice of someone who has a very powerful role

[Von Payne]

You're basically saying you thought you were a hidden jailkeeper and are confused on why I find your target choice strange.

Yeah you should probably do more than just skim our posts. I explained this already

[Von Payne]

In case I didn't make myself clear enough, Drew and I both thought the protective side-effect to our role was a possibility. We were never convinced about it but we did decide to just recruit people we thought were townie. Due to many reasons, neither of us had strong townreads going into N2, so we had to choose someone we just leaned town on. This was when the roleblocking theory surfaced. Again, neither of us were convinced this could be the case with our role, but for me personally it added an extra incentive to target Catgirls because I was still mostly unsure about them. If they are town maybe we protect them, if they are scum maybe we block them. It felt good to me

If you don't believe this, I'm sorry. I don't know how to explain our thought processes any better but I'll try if you have any questions

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I can't tell if Von truly not understanding how out of touch their choices are here is towny or wolfy. Like if this is a wolf fakeclaim it's extremely sloppy. That then begs the question of why? You have multiple nights to justify or come up with a better fake claim and this is the end result? Drew is a good player and while I don't know enough about Black I'm going to assume she's fine enough that I wouldn't see this coming. Them saying "omg are you reading" isn't helpful either (when the irony is on them)

The counter point to this is there has to be so many leaps of logic you need to take for all of this to be well, true.

[Ydrasse]

where did this aspect of believing very off kilter possibilities about their role begin in thread

[Von Payne]

I can't tell if Von truly not understanding how out of touch their choices are here is towny or wolfy.

Can you explain how our choices are out of touch

[Ydrasse]

why would a mod not tell you your role in an explicitly non bastard game

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

They litteraly changed the theory aspect and adopted it to questions to try and make the choices make sense live.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

They litteraly changed the theory aspect and adopted it to questions to try and make the choices make sense live.

That's what I thought I saw but I can't tell if I'm legit just "reading it wrong"

[Ydrasse]

like idk this seems like a very weird place to end up as two people in a game where the boundaries of what is allowed is set and if you are town it makes it very hard imo to move past this for how rough it’s went down in thread

[Von Payne]

i still feel that von panyes role is more elegant as a wolf one and i think the current conversation isn’t really doing a lot to dissuade that

i need to reread the flipped wolf role but it kind of feels like the power level in this game is wonky if it’s town idk

If we were scum why wouldn't we just flat out say our role has an extra protective and/or role blocking ability?

How would it benefit us, as scum, to talk about our theory of our role in the manner we have done?



Pre Edit: Ydra, it began simply when I was thinking about our role and the Bad Dreams.....nothing really to do with anything that happened in game.....but when Chipotle posted like they were thinking like I was thinking, made me feel that it was a real possibility

Pre Edit2: Kyo, I am going to call you Maria for the rest of the game lol(real Maria knows why)

[Von Payne]

why would a mod not tell you your role in an explicitly non bastard game

I thought there could be unrevealed mechanics. The game seemed complex due to the setup so I didn't think it would be that crazy if we secretly protected the people we kept awake

I suck at balance and setup. This is a widely known fact

[Von Payne]

like idk this seems like a very weird place to end up as two people in a game where the boundaries of what is allowed is set and if you are town it makes it very hard imo to move past this for how rough it’s went down in thread

We clearly don't know the boundaries