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Post Post #2993 (isolation #800) » Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:21 am

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In post 269, Black wrote:
In post 266, ketchup777 wrote: VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.
In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.
I did this a lot in my first game as scum :igmeou:
In post 295, light_ganski wrote:
In post 266, ketchup777 wrote: VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim. In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.
considering that arko hasn't posted yet

do you suspect anyone else, besides titus?
then again I think I mentioned it before but were these posts trying to subtly manipulate me off Arkoooooo?
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Post Post #2996 (isolation #801) » Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:31 pm

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In post 2995, Enchant wrote:
In post 2992, ketchup777 wrote: if I wake up to PC E-1 I might hammer not sure
It requires convincing Hu Tao or Me.


You can't just put-unput PC on E-1 on infinity and hope we somehow get bored out of it.


I mean you can, deadline still exist but eh.
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Post Post #3013 (isolation #802) » Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:57 am

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In post 3009, Political Clout wrote: I don't want to be mean I'm sorry ketchup
all good i laughed (:
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Post Post #3014 (isolation #803) » Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:58 am

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In post 3010, Hu Tao wrote: Ketchup can we vote enchant?
can do but I still think it’s PC idkkkk
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Post Post #3015 (isolation #804) » Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:14 am

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Actually it could be python maybe oh no
In post 1320, usesPython wrote:
In post 1317, JacksonVirgo wrote: Cops are the new VT. There's going to be sprinkled roles like the Disloyal but mostly they're the new VT, no point in coordinating anything really.
We'll wait until light claims to comment on this further
In post 1325, usesPython wrote: VOTE: light
so much for waiting for light
In post 1525, usesPython wrote:
In post 1524, Political Clout wrote: doesn't explain why you are letting jv dictate your actions.
We compensate for our low read accuracy by being pretty good at finding a few people town and then sheeping them, in this case especially we're content to shoot our other scumreads given that we don't have the time to read or case much
'shoot’ as a Freudian slip?
In post 1662, usesPython wrote: Wake up

VOTE: Black

Sleep
In post 1664, usesPython wrote: Actually

VOTE: ketchup
This rotation to get off the Light wagon still feels pretty bad. Rotating to second scum then thinking better of it. Then seeming to strongly townread black later on is a bit weird.
In post 1694, usesPython wrote:
In post 1689, Black wrote: I'm sorry I don't understand. Why would scum!Drew think this is the setup?
The exact setup doesn't as long as scum don't know it's an all cop game, do you think the gamestate supports this or not?
nothing here just mental noting around this point is when Black and Python engage and and it actually kinda feels like when Black was talking with Light
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Post Post #3016 (isolation #805) » Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:31 am

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aahhhhhhhhhh
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Post Post #3017 (isolation #806) » Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:40 am

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new pool Python+PC
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Post Post #3020 (isolation #807) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:33 am

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In post 3018, usesPython wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 3015, ketchup777 wrote: Actually it could be python maybe oh no
In post 1320, usesPython wrote:
In post 1317, JacksonVirgo wrote: Cops are the new VT. There's going to be sprinkled roles like the Disloyal but mostly they're the new VT, no point in coordinating anything really.
We'll wait until light claims to comment on this further
In post 1325, usesPython wrote: VOTE: light
so much for waiting for light
From memory this was us dancing around the fact that Enchant was claiming VT since light was the last unclaimed
In post 3015, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1525, usesPython wrote:
In post 1524, Political Clout wrote: doesn't explain why you are letting jv dictate your actions.
We compensate for our low read accuracy by being pretty good at finding a few people town and then sheeping them, in this case especially we're content to shoot our other scumreads given that we don't have the time to read or case much
'shoot’ as a Freudian slip?
We use shoot as an alternative to lim (e.g.
In post 2639, usesPython in Cop 17er wrote: How to solve the game:
  1. Shoot Titus
  2. Shoot everyone on the DE wagon

In post 3015, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1662, usesPython wrote: Wake up

VOTE: Black

Sleep
In post 1664, usesPython wrote: Actually

VOTE: ketchup
This rotation to get off the Light wagon still feels pretty bad. Rotating to second scum then thinking better of it. Then seeming to strongly townread black later on is a bit weird.
Black vote was for bad d2 posting, then we changed our mind and decided to vibe-check her d1 and got got. Having way stronger townreads than we realistically should is a chronic problem for us that we're not interested in fixing cause it'd be boring (co-incidentally Cop 17er quoted above has us do the same thing to DE (who was town) and Naerys (who was maf))
I mean yeah there’s nothing inherently bad in this response. I fear for why I’ve been left alive in that my reads were wrong. Im confident on Hu Tao being town but maybe I was wrong on Python.

Hu Tao and Enchant couldve hammered PC but didn’t. I don’t think scum!HT would be able to safely hammer PC but Enchant def could’ve given it a shot. Maybe LAMIST but I think Enchant town. and ooh Enchants latest post looks good so hold up
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Post Post #3021 (isolation #808) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:57 am

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In post 3019, Enchant wrote:
Spoiler:
People and who they "Checked: I won't strongly investigate reasonings of town players who died":


Green colored for other unknown players. If i colored you green here doesn't mean i townread you, it's just that if said Cop is mafia member, then obviously EVERYONE ELSE ARE TOWN and therefore said check is on "Town".

In case me-Cop i writed from perspective i am also suspect, thus if i am mafia, other still living players must be town. I marked self as town in other cases.

ketchup777|Cop

N1: Enchant
N2: Hu Tao
N3: Drew
N4: Political Clout


Reasoning: Who the hell knows what newbie thinks and i am NOT reading all these
700
800 posts to figure this and other checks because they are not important anyway, i mean unless you shred all your game in 50-100 words in next post i am NOT READING IT DO YOU HEAR ME SAUCE.
Yes i remember there was some sort of "Plan" but as far i remember only mafia followed it really (black). Point my nose if i am wrong.

JacksonVirgo|Cop

N1: Enchant

N2+: Ded

Reasoning: shrug

Black|Cop

N1: Light

N2: Jackson

N3: Never Stated.

Reasoning: So uh Black said "I am 1vs1ing Hu Tao" (of course when Hu Tao voted Black first) then goes 1vs1ing Hu Tao, drops "I guess Python+Ketchup may be possible" and dies.
Me and Jackson are not mentioned. Jackson killed. Think about it whatever you want.

Titus|Cop

N1: Ranger.

N2+: Ded

Reasoning: shrug, but i guess this message deserved to be reposted:
In post 1410, Titus wrote: Calling light and Black partners. There is a reason to vote light (counterwagon from yesterday) but I wanted to hear someone say it to compare if they usually do that. Black jumping off at the first motion elsewhere is suspicious rather than giving a reason. She wants to be on the light wagon if it takes but would rather vote town.

VOTE: Light
Haha yeah...

light_ganski|Disloyal Cop

N1: Enchant
N2: Ranger (Which is uh... Guilty.)


Reasoning:
I have no idea why mafia would fake inno on me, but this is not first time they did. In fact, town investigators almost always never really bothered to waste time on me. Thus my suspicious on people on me.
Most interesting is why Light would fake guilty on Ranger. Even if Ranger was not VT i doubt mafia would risk for little to no benefit. It literally doomed Light for something mafia could perfectly achieve without faking guilty if they tried (ranger was not biggest townread after all)).

Ranger|VT

Haha VT in alianna game.

Enchant|Cop

N1: Python
N2: Ketchup
N3: Hu Tao
N4: Doctor Drew


Reasoning: I checked Python mostly blindly (I wanted to investigate Ketchup due "INVESTIGATE ME TO FIND TOWN" but Ketchup being newbie dissuaded me from allying with Ketchup in case he is town and if mafia i believed i get him killed somehow regardless). I consider Python too dangerous imo. Then i checked Ketchup partially again i didn't like that dance around Titus at last moments (it was so overplayed, i was hesitated with hammering. My reasoning was relaxed because i didn't think i can get guilties anyway. And then i checked Hu Tao on basically random. Why not.)

Also i know i inflate my ego (not like i consider self better than everyone else, mortals) but hey i checked almost all living players! If not gimmick of this cringe game i would be passable Cop.

usesPython|Cop

N1: Enchant

N2: Black

N3: No One.
N4: PC


Reasoning: Image

Laplacian|Disloyal Cop

CoUnTeRcLaImEd bY wHoLe LoBbY D1

Hu Tao|Cop

N1: Political Clout

N2: Jackson

N3: Black

N4: ???

Reasoning: Idk. Hu Tao checks makes sense from perspective of town cop.

DkKoba|Miller (Lie)

Got vibechecked N1. Living past N1 is scum tell for Koba really. It doesn't matter Koba was cop.

Political Clout|Cop

N1: Titus

N2: ???
N3: ???
N4: ???

Reasoning: Okay..... That's awkward.
yep but idk if scum!PC would’ve been told to not look so outright guilty
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N1: Python

N2: Black

N3: Political Clout




Now:
0. I tried to fill this from like previous game day but i am lazy so i did it just now.

1. Mafia obviously knew that Ranger somehow not Rolecop, even if Ranger basically CLAIMED Rolecop with "Oh hey i checked Miller claim". Reasonable only Rolecop want to check Miller because Millers are clear for them.
BUT.

Maybe Hu Tao is right. Koba was attacked for Miller claim. Mafia reasoning is simple "Aha we have rolecop finder, and there's miller claim, let's kill miller claim, miller is possible clear for rolecop!
I guess they didn't fear Rolecop guiltying THEM for being leaders of organised crime, or they had nothing to guess rolecop and decided to go with little winnings instead of possible killing someone completely random. It's reinforced by fact they killed Ranger instead of potential Rolecops when Ranger was revealed as clear.
Maybe Light happened to rolecop-finder Ranger night 1? And assumed that if there were a second cop that they were a rolecop?
In post 3019, Enchant wrote:
Spoiler:

2. I cleared Doctor Drew previous day mostly on basis that we checked same player N1. I didn't really care what Drew saying. Complain please.

3.
MOST likely mafia avoided faking checks on each other first nights. Even if it didn't matter. Town on other hand atleast didn't meme with checks. So first nights is more relevant than others.
You know what i writed it until filling black. Now i am 100% sure other mafia members "checked" townies and Black designated self to trip me with this reasoning. Sadly it gives you nothing because it only conftowns ME due Light claiming check on me N1.
I don’t think we can necessarily conclude that.
In post 3019, Enchant wrote: 6. Black posted two POEs like Light+Hu+Drew and Light+Hu+Python as i remember? I think it actually clears Hu Tao.
maybe maybe
In post 3019, Enchant wrote: I look at this tomorrow because i am tired, you can give "missing" checks and explain why you made them, it will help you.
I copped you N1 because a no-info slot and I had crumbed that I would cop you (explained in one of my early megaposts)
N2 I copped Hu Tao partly to follow our plan but also I assigned myself Hu Tao because I feared I might be being pocketed
N3 I copped Drew because no one had copped him yet
N4 I had to cop PC or Python, I just went PC for the heck of it. Tonight I’ll cop Python and then I’ll have copped all of us alive. Not that I’ll get a guilty
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Post Post #3024 (isolation #809) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:07 am

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In post 3022, Hu Tao wrote: Sooo thoughts?
{Hu Tao}
:up: {Enchant}
:down: {Python}
{PC}
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Post Post #3026 (isolation #810) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:11 am

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In post 3023, Political Clout wrote: VOTE: enchant let's just leave it up to ketchup I guess. I really think it's just python though I'll switch if enchant votes them and we can get hu tao to switch.
are you sure you want E-1
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Post Post #3027 (isolation #811) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:11 am

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not hamemring
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Post Post #3028 (isolation #812) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:11 am

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but python might
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Post Post #3035 (isolation #813) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:58 am

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stop stalling PC who did you cop
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Post Post #3041 (isolation #814) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:12 pm

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In post 3037, Political Clout wrote:
In post 3035, ketchup777 wrote: stop stalling PC who did you cop
nobody is stalling
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Post Post #3044 (isolation #815) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:15 pm

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In post 3043, Political Clout wrote:
In post 3042, Enchant wrote: If you want answer, answer mine first.
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why cop enchant night 2?
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Post Post #3045 (isolation #816) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:15 pm

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sorry enchant I’ll let you ask PC questions I feel I’m intruding and I need to get to sleep anyway
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Post Post #3046 (isolation #817) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:17 pm

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would love to hear more about why you chose enchant to night 2 check though
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Post Post #3051 (isolation #818) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:23 pm

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In post 3047, Political Clout wrote:
In post 3044, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 3043, Political Clout wrote:
In post 3042, Enchant wrote: If you want answer, answer mine first.
titus
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why cop enchant night 2?
I thought they were lying the whole play seemed fake. why post minimally when cleared as vt and it seemed like they were hiding.
did the fact that Enchant had been copped 4 times not suggest you would not find anything? did the fact that the cop plan had you as the only person who would cop me not seem tempting to cop me? I think enchant has got you here. If you were trying to have a chance at your cop being useful you would not have copped a quadruple-checked Enchant


VOTE: Political Clout

hopefully my first hammer is one of glory

pedit: nice scrambling attempts but no
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Post Post #3054 (isolation #819) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:24 pm

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In post 3053, Political Clout wrote:
In post 3051, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 3047, Political Clout wrote:
In post 3044, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 3043, Political Clout wrote:
In post 3042, Enchant wrote: If you want answer, answer mine first.
titus
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why cop enchant night 2?
I thought they were lying the whole play seemed fake. why post minimally when cleared as vt and it seemed like they were hiding.
did the fact that Enchant had been copped 4 times not suggest you would not find anything? did the fact that the cop plan had you as the only person who would cop me not seem tempting to cop me? I think enchant has got you here. If you were trying to have a chance at your cop being useful you would not have copped a quadruple-checked Enchant


VOTE: Political Clout

hopefully my first hammer is one of glory

pedit: nice scrambling attempts but no
gg you figured me out well done.
let’s goooo (((: I hope you’re not trolling
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Post Post #3060 (isolation #820) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:32 pm

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well it didn’t sound like the truth it sounded like you put enchant forgetting my they were 4x confirmed and only realised the gravity of your mistake too late
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Post Post #3061 (isolation #821) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:32 pm

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In post 3059, Enchant wrote: Vote fast night atleast.
if it comes to tjat
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Post Post #3064 (isolation #822) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:36 pm

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aah stop townspewing you’re scaring me

I didn’t ask because to me this was the final nail in the votingyoucoffin that yeah I’ve wanted to vote you for a while but this tipped it
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Post Post #3065 (isolation #823) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:37 pm

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sorry tho PC I don’t think you’ve enjoyed playing with me very much which is unfortunate, I’m open to feedback on how to avoid that
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Post Post #3068 (isolation #824) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:42 pm

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welp if it’s not PC it’s probably Python but likeeeeeee it’s gotta be PC although the ghost talk is scaryyyy
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Post Post #3069 (isolation #825) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:45 pm

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In post 2392, ketchup777 wrote: Light/Black/PC would make a lot of sense methinks.
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Post Post #3072 (isolation #826) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:47 pm

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In post 3070, Political Clout wrote:
In post 3068, ketchup777 wrote: welp if it’s not PC it’s probably Python but likeeeeeee it’s gotta be PC although the ghost talk is scaryyyy
no in f3 you only know your alignment. you need to reexamine your town reads. it is +ev for scum to vote first.
f3 is another name for 3 player ElO?

I promise you if you are town that i won’t make the same mistake of rushing to a vote
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Post Post #3074 (isolation #827) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:48 pm

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trying to work out if introducing WIFOM is a good idea rn
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Post Post #3075 (isolation #828) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:48 pm

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probably not
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Post Post #3076 (isolation #829) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:50 pm

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political clout more like political out ohhhhhh
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Post Post #3077 (isolation #830) » Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:54 pm

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ok i can’t wait here any longer I really have to sleep, guess the reveal will be a morning treat
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Post Post #3083 (isolation #831) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:48 pm

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oh boy

I’ll come to this later after school
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Post Post #3084 (isolation #832) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:49 pm

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Enchant did you ask for a fast night?
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Post Post #3086 (isolation #833) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:54 pm

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In post 3085, Enchant wrote:
In post 3084, ketchup777 wrote: Enchant did you ask for a fast night?
Yes.
I did too. hmmmm
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Post Post #3087 (isolation #834) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:55 pm

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also inno on python! drat!
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Post Post #3090 (isolation #835) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:58 pm

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well congrats, I’m not mafia

now for the tricky bit
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Post Post #3091 (isolation #836) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:59 pm

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I do believe it’s Python but I won’t rush it at 7am. however I will try to get a decision out in a couple days so it’s not stale
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Post Post #3093 (isolation #837) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:02 pm

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could you link me a scumgame and towngame of yours?
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Post Post #3095 (isolation #838) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:31 pm

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In post 3094, Enchant wrote:
In post 3093, ketchup777 wrote: could you link me a scumgame and towngame of yours?
Meta bad but okay, wait for a bit.
yes this will only be used as a minor thought (:

to do:

read meta
ISO both of you
ISO Black and check for interactions with you two
ISO Light “ ”
Think about not killing Ranger N2 implications as to whether Enchant‘s scum
maybe smth else

let’s win this
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Post Post #3096 (isolation #839) » Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:38 pm

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@mod

can a miller be scum? obviously it seems redundant but is it possible?
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Post Post #3106 (isolation #840) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:48 am

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In post 3104, usesPython wrote: Ketchup what do you need from us?
idk rn I’ll just dump some questions here soon
what do you think you could tell me that would put you as town?
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Post Post #3107 (isolation #841) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:48 am

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In post 3101, usesPython wrote:
In post 3086, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 3085, Enchant wrote:
In post 3084, ketchup777 wrote: Enchant did you ask for a fast night?
Yes.
I did too. hmmmm
We pulled an all-nighter and forgot, sorry
did you cop anyone?
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Post Post #3110 (isolation #842) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:01 am

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In post 3108, Alianna wrote:
In post 3096, ketchup777 wrote: @mod

can a miller be scum? obviously it seems redundant but is it possible?
No.
ok so yeah I think Koba died because scum, especially with Light's rolecop-finder, feared a rolecop clearing Koba.

N1: Koba - could be Black's idea
N2: Jackson - why? ill go look back at his ISO. why not ranger or enchant?
N3: Ranger+fast night - everyone expected scum to shoot Ranger so free no-info kill
N4: Drew - interesting. need to look back at Drew+Python interactions. If Enchant killed Drew to frame Python, surprised that Enchant didn't push Python day 5
N5: Hu Tao. so someone came into today thinking that this was their best ElO chance. If scum!Enchant set this up his voting me straight away would be surprising to not have the chance of getting me mislimmed, and relying on me to get it wrong. python could have been planning to cast suspicion on me yet didn't get the chance. realistically the NK was probably always going to me or Hu Tao. so who would fear

Hu Tao
Enchant
Python

endgame? what were Hu Tao's reads? had she hinted at who she might vote in ElO? these are the things I intend to find out before committing to a vote

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Post Post #3111 (isolation #843) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:01 am

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ah actually Jackson also claimed miller and though he said he was a cop maybe they still had lingering fears of Jackson being miller, combined with killing a fairly townread person. mmm
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Post Post #3112 (isolation #844) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:03 am

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sorry this might turn into a notes PT i'll try get some questions to you two but you're welcome to help me analyse, tho I figure it might get boring for you now you know who's scum
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Post Post #3114 (isolation #845) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:19 am

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what if i did that to youuuuu
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Post Post #3115 (isolation #846) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:26 am

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omg no you're right tho I just had a revelation hold up
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Post Post #3124 (isolation #847) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:12 am

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who’s going to outmanipulate me oooooh
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Post Post #3127 (isolation #848) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:13 am

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In post 3126, usesPython wrote: Like biggest indicator that Enchant is scum here is insta-voting us
I get the sense enchant just likes voting people
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Post Post #3132 (isolation #849) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:41 am

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In post 2942, Enchant wrote: @Python
@Political Clout

I guess you are last allies i have in this game.

It's useless to talk with Hu Tao, Hu Tao always accuses me every game due some bias (look at any previous game where Hu Tao first to yell ENCHANT OBVIOUS SCUM I KNOW), so i save my time.

I don't strongly believe Hu Tao is mafia, i just find suspicious that Black had practically zero support last day and decided to 1vs1 Hu Tao out of blue.


I am willing to try to work with @Ketchup as well (not like i have choice), but i would like to avoid so.
why did you never express doubts about Python? were you holding something back, or did you just put PC as scummier?
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Post Post #3133 (isolation #850) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:41 am

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In post 3131, Enchant wrote: Being possible eaten alive by dead thread for voting Ketchup ceirtanly helped.
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Post Post #3135 (isolation #851) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:02 am

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right yeah that adds up
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Post Post #3136 (isolation #852) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:49 am

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day1:

who did Python engage with / talk about their reads of in day 1? (in order of appearance)

Koba: a lot
PC: 34, 46, 54, 55, 59, 707
Ketchup: 59, 101, 121, 706, 740, 741, 745, 867

Black: 79, a mere "Elaborate", and Black was quick to shut this line of convo down in
Drew: 101, 348, 354, 358, 362, 364, 370, 373, 426, 707, 800
Jackson: 343, 706
Light: 346 "We true claim cult leader"
Lap: 351, 358, 359, 707
Hu Tao: 358, 359, 362, 364, 366, 369, 371, 426, 706, 707, 741, 806, 816
Ranger: 707, 740, 745, 806, 813, 816
Titus / Enchant / Python: n/a

who did Python vote?

Koba (20)
PC (34)
unvote (55)
Light (114)
Lap (350)


the Light vote is interesting because it was never backed up. The other interesting thing is that Black and Light were 2 of the 4 (+Jackson+Titus) least engaged with slots, and while Python said "We're vibing with JV" in , no thoughts were offered as to Light or Black's alignment, which would fit in with a Black+Light distance with each other while not enaging with the third scum world. could also hint at Drew becoming a threat for Python later on, maybe leading to the N4 NK. but let's take a look at day 2 in the next post yip yip yippee
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Post Post #3137 (isolation #853) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:51 am

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but yeah what's interesting to me is how 2 of the 3 (non Arko non Python) slots Python did not give opinions on were Light and Black. (and Titus)
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Post Post #3140 (isolation #854) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:40 am

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In post 3139, usesPython wrote: If you look at it in terms of irl days then it's:
  1. Day 1:
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    3. ketchup
    4. Black
    5. Drew
    6. light
  2. Day 2:
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    2. light
    3. Drew
    4. Lap
    5. Hu Tao
    6. Koba
  3. Day 3:
    1. Ketchup
    2. Hu Tao
    3. Koba
    4. PC
    5. Lap
    6. Ranger
Which like is pretty normal for us, only have so much energy to devote to mafia and it's not enough to read the entire PL if D1 ends that early
is this your scummiest to least scummy at those points or the order of sorting people?
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Post Post #3151 (isolation #855) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 11:55 am

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In post 3144, Enchant wrote: No-No-No.

If you accuse me of bussing all my teammates, you need to consider that one of major reasons Light is dead is accusation on OBVIOUS from MY perspective VT-Conftown.
yeah this is a good point, unless you were just super committed to making yourself look cool
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Post Post #3152 (isolation #856) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:26 pm

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day 2 who did Python engage with or offer a read on:

Enchant: 1127, 1128, 1133, 1156, 1160, 1164, 1168, 1171
Ranger: 1130, 1222, 1245, 1257, 1258, 1266, 1267
Drew: 1130, 1198, 1201
Hu Tao: 1132, 1217, 1245, 1258
Black: 1153
Ketchup: 1159, 1181, 1197, 1198, 1240
Titus: 1160
JacksonVirgo: 1201, 1203, 1249, 1288, 1296, 1305, 1307, 1320
PC: 1201, 1203, 1204, 1230, 1236, 1245, 1249, 1266, 1290, 1303, 1307
Light: 1320

freezeframe here! stop! look how Black, Light and Titus are once again the not-interacted with slots. ok now continue


Enchant: 1127, 1128, 1133, 1156, 1160, 1164, 1168, 1171, 1383, 1397, 1404, 1444, 1527, 1676, 1811, 1826, 1839, 1841, 1842, 2219
Ranger: 1130, 1222, 1245, 1257, 1258, 1266, 1267, 1538, 1539, 1738, 1748, 1749, 1750, 1751, 1930, 1990, 2208, 2210, 2216, 2236, 2252, 2287, 2298 "Folks we got a red check on ranger tomorrow" could hint Python knew Ranger would be alive the next day, 2309
Drew: 1130, 1198, 1201, 1329, 1673, 1676, 1685, 1692, 1699, 1704, 1705, 1711, 1745, 1768, 2252
Hu Tao: 1132, 1217, 1245, 1258
Black: 1153 [setup stuff], 1666 "We'll vibe check Black when we wake up, no hammers until then please", 1670 "vibecheck wise Black is obvtown d1 cause of the synesthesia-type feeling of her posts being a knife that we associate with her town games || d2 posting is ass but we're willing to ignore it and trust", 1673, 1685, 1688, 1692, 1694, 1697, 1699, 1704, 1708, 1710, 1711, 1722, 1723 [all of the left are a massive discussion about setup without really offering any reads], 1746 "We didn't want a hammer yet and we didn't like Blacks d2 posting, what is the issue", 1756 [softdefending Black], 1782 "Why is Titus scum, so far we've only seen the Ranger argument that hinges on scum being informed about the setup", 1906 "python what is your read on Titus|| Could be partnered with PC but we'd prefer to go PC before Titus cause the rest of her posting isn't bottom tier"
Ketchup: 1159, 1181, 1197, 1198, 1240, 1329, 1338, 1362, 1444, 1665, 1672, 1679, 1680, 1742, 1745, 1746, 1750, 1751, 1752, 1756, 1762, 1767, 1771, 1772, 1778, 1789, 1795, 1803, 1804, 1807, 1808, 1811, 1814, 1817, 1830, 1831, 1839, 1852, 1855, 1856, 1859, 1864, 1909, 1932, 1939, 1990, 2265, 2272, 2280, 2284
Titus: 1160, 1782, 1906, 2207 "Not hammering", 2208, 2219, 2226, 2236, 2244, 2252, 2253, 2282 "Still not interested in hammering this"
JacksonVirgo: 1201, 1203, 1249, 1288, 1296, 1305, 1307, 1320, 1362, 1391, 1451, 1471, 1523, 1531, 1534, 1536, 1538, 1671, 1675, 1676, 1750, 1768, 1826, 1941, 2216, 2287, 2297
PC: 1201, 1203, 1204, 1230, 1236, 1245, 1249, 1266, 1290, 1303, 1307, 1523, 1525, 1531, 1675, 1859, 1866, 1885, 1906, 1922, 1935, 2219
Light: 1320 "We'll wait until light claims to comment on this further", 1383 "Ok cool light claimed not vanilla.", 1385 "why is black voting me if she has an inno on me?""Godfather game", 1671 [to jackson]"Why not light?",


n/a: Koba, Lap, Python


Votes:

PC (1249)
unvote (1307)
light (1325)
Black (1662)
Ketchup (1664)
unvote (1849)
PC (1879)
Ranger (2215)

Notes:

feels like town POV from Enchant

ok

that was a lot of effort
but I think I've got what I needed

On day 1, the least interacted with were Titus, Black, Light and Jackson
On day 2, a much longer day, it was Light and Hu Tao, despite Light being a leading wagon and offering thoughts would have been welcome. While postwise Python interacted a lot with Black, most of it was just a prolonged discussion about setup. The fact Python practically dodged reading either Black or Light for 2 whole days is er... sus. and to check I'm not being biased:

ketchup: scumread turned potential townread
enchant: conf via mech
ranger: scummy, decided Python late into day 2
PC: scummy, yet Ranger apparently became scummier
Titus: mid-tier / scumlean, yet not worth hammering (twice)
Hu Tao: seemed to townspew her day 1
Drew: because Drew acted as cop Python townread Drew, saying that scum Drew would not have risked hammering Laplacian without knowing the setup
JacksonVirgo: vibed as town early on, didn't post many reads of him since but interacted a fair amount, some of the talk about setup tho
Black: : "vibecheck wise Black is obvtown d1 cause of the synesthesia-type feeling of her posts being a knife that we associate with her town games || d2 posting is ass but we're willing to ignore it and trust". : "We didn't want a hammer yet and we didn't like Blacks d2 posting, what is the issue"
Light: never offered a read. this is very surpirsing. I legitimately cannot find Python offering a read on Light, beyond not hammering. Which is kinda very surprising.

ok so Python offered a small read on Black but nothing on Light. My mind is almost made up
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Post Post #3153 (isolation #857) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:28 pm

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Python, if you offered a read on Light D1 or D2, direct me
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Post Post #3155 (isolation #858) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:47 pm

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In post 268, light_ganski wrote:
In post 262, Black wrote:
In post 257, light_ganski wrote:
In post 250, Black wrote: LG not responding to or acknowledging her wagon feels kinda bad
I don't like to play reactively, I think it makes it harder to develop a consistent understanding of the gamestate when I'm spending too much time worrying about what others are thinking of *me*

fyi, I thought your reasoning on me was a bit of a reach, but I've seen worse come from town 6 pages into a game
Is there any reason why you didn't say that when you read my reasoning? What do you think about the other votes on you?
because I was still thinking about whether it meant anything beyond "I'm town, but we're barely out of rvs and this is the best reason I have to SR someone". if you'd made the same vote D2, or even 20 pages in, it would have been a much more immediate red flag rather than just a yellow one

the other two votes seemed very sheep-y which I don't think means *that* much in the first five pages. python, it's very early but the few posts they've made don't feel like scum!python from the one game I've been in with them. koba seems very neutral (like beyond the vote, I've no reason to disbelieve the miller claim, I don't like the traitor soft joke but it's not something I want to read into without more evidence).
In post 619, light_ganski wrote:
In post 436, DkKoba wrote: town python be big srs mode and scum python constantly cracks jokes and has trouble being serious
yeah I've played w python once

but they were scum in that game and their tone feels completely different here
In post 972, light_ganski wrote:
In post 706, usesPython wrote:
In post 438, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 21, usesPython wrote:
In post 12, DkKoba wrote:
In post 7, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: Koba

Just to get it out of my system lol
nice try but i claim uncc miller VOTE: usespython
koba making this joke in a way that lets people laugh it off as a joke but would get a miller to say something feels kinda bad
why would mafia benefit from knowing who's a miller? if i understand correctly, something like 'miller gunsmith' is possible? or is miller a role not a modifier
This is a setup where
Setup
  1. Mafia Goon

  2. Mafia Goon

  3. Mafia Goon

  4. Town Cop

  5. Town Miller

  6. Town Miller

  7. Town Miller

  8. Town Miller

  9. Town Miller

  10. Town Miller

  11. Town Miller

  12. Town Miller

  13. Vanilla Townie

is a realistic possibility that scum have to play around. In that example not claiming miller would be a pretty big scumclaim that scum could easily walk into
why are we doing day one setup speculation on the basis of one miller claim

like if theres something I'm missing here pls do tell
In post 2515, light_ganski wrote:
In post 2513, usesPython wrote: {Black} - The wildcard
{Political Clout} - The fake cop
{light} - The confscum

We're not willing to kill anyone above the line until everyone below it is dead, if we're wrong on anyone it'd probably be Black in which case it comes down to figuring out if Schum Tao would know to fake Cop from the Disloyal Cop + Cop flips or not
Fine, as long as when I flip town you eat humble pie and get rid of ranger immediately

At this point me staying alive is detrimental to the goal of us actually winning because until I flip no one will believe ranger isn't conftown

My final solve is {ranger, black} plus probably hu tao (because I still don't think PC and black can be scum together unless they just... weren't working as a team on day one)
for myself, Light did reply to some of Python's posts
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Post Post #3157 (isolation #859) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:49 pm

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In post 3154, usesPython wrote:
In post 3153, ketchup777 wrote: Python, if you offered a read on Light D1 or D2, direct me
D1:

Sheeping Blacks in

Vibing with JV's in though that was a side thing to their ketchup posts

D2:

Sheeping JV's in


One thing that gets missed when ISOing us though is that we rely heavily on live chatting with whoever's online to sort people, multi-ISO light and us and you'll notice our timezones miss each other in such a way that we almost never catch each other live
okey thanks
I didn't know you could multi-iso, how?
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Post Post #3158 (isolation #860) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:49 pm

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In post 3156, usesPython wrote: Please also bother to ISO Enchant cause you'll notice they also barely interact with Black or light
I just did and came to no Black interactions D2/D3, 5 or 6 Light interactions. Then voting Black off. idk
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Post Post #3159 (isolation #861) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:50 pm

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now I iso Black and then this game can be over at last
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Post Post #3161 (isolation #862) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:51 pm

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ahh hype
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Post Post #3162 (isolation #863) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:58 pm

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Spoiler: Black+Python
In post 456, Black wrote:python town
In post 802, Black wrote:
In post 800, usesPython wrote:
In post 789, Doctor Drew wrote: I am do try to be respectful of real life stuff, but do find Pythons lack of engagement odd here

Maybe I just miss them
We spent the past three days handling a lot more rl stuff than usual, we should be free for a few days until more rl hits
Just in time for me to disappear for the weekend
In post 1137, Black wrote:
In post 1133, usesPython wrote:
In post 1118, Enchant wrote:
In post 1077, JacksonVirgo wrote: Mhm, wolves probably have Godfathers to any degree and their announcement is probably the thing one thing that isn't normal.
Godfathers are normal now.
Godfathers are normal
if announced beforehand
Wait so it has to be announced that Godfathers are in the game? Does that mean the innos are real?
In post 1682, Black wrote:
In post 1673, usesPython wrote:
In post 1541, Black wrote: Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
If Drew is a godfather wouldn't he see the disloyal cop as the biggest threat to him and try to convince others to push the wagon through like he did?
In post 1689, Black wrote:
In post 1685, usesPython wrote:
In post 1682, Black wrote:
In post 1673, usesPython wrote:
In post 1541, Black wrote: Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
If Drew is a godfather wouldn't he see the disloyal cop as the biggest threat to him and try to convince others to push the wagon through like he did?
Pretend the setup is
Setup
  1. Mafia Godfather

  2. Mafia Godfather

  3. Mafia Godfather

  4. Town Disloyal Cop

  5. Vanilla Townie

  6. Vanilla Townie

  7. Vanilla Townie

  8. Vanilla Townie

  9. Vanilla Townie

  10. Vanilla Townie

  11. Vanilla Townie

  12. Vanilla Townie

  13. Vanilla Townie


What does scum Drew believably claim that lets him get away with immediately believing that Lap is fake claiming while also being a balanced questionable setup
I'm sorry I don't understand. Why would scum!Drew think this is the setup?
In post 1693, Black wrote:
In post 1688, usesPython wrote:
In post 1682, Black wrote:
In post 1673, usesPython wrote:
In post 1541, Black wrote: Reading over the EoD stuff again I think Drew's reaction to Lap's claim makes a lot of sense in a scum!Drew world. If scum has one or multiple godfathers then Lap's role probably scared the shit out of them to the point where they really wanted that fade to go through
This would require scum Drew to not only expect Disloyal Cop to be the designated cop type but also expect that everyone's some type of Cop (Since otherwise if not he'd be claiming the second ungated cop in a mini which would be an incredibly tough sell compared to just shooting Lap at night)
If Drew is a godfather wouldn't he see the disloyal cop as the biggest threat to him and try to convince others to push the wagon through like he did?
Also same question we asked Ketchup, why not just shoot Lap at night?
The fade was right there in scum's grasp. It's much more optimal to push that through and then aim for another PR N1
In post 1695, Black wrote:
In post 1692, usesPython wrote:
In post 1686, Black wrote: Drew's vote gives me pause because he's always talking about dancing with me and stuff but this game he hasn't shown much interest in interacting with me at all. My thoughts about his EoD behavior are pretty typical of me to have so I'm not sure why that is pushing the needle for him
You're too hung up on dayplay here. Drew also doesn't pass our mountainous vibecheck, it's just that his play around the setup strongly suggests he's town
I have a hard time reading play when it involves setup and balance so I'm just trying to read what I can here
In post 1701, Black wrote:
In post 1699, usesPython wrote:
In post 1696, Black wrote:
In post 1694, usesPython wrote:
In post 1689, Black wrote: I'm sorry I don't understand. Why would scum!Drew think this is the setup?
The exact setup doesn't as long as scum don't know it's an all cop game, do you think the gamestate supports this or not?
I have no clue what the gamestate supports :lol:

What does that even mean

I think if the scumteam has godfathers and they see a Disloyal Cop claim then they would probably expect there to be other ways to catch them, right?
Our point isn't if town has other ways of catching Godfathers but that Drew explicitly played d1 EOD as a Cop would and that the gamestate doesn't support the belief that scum Drew would know to aggressively take heat and fake cop here over just letting the opportunity pass and blasting Lap at night

Scum Drew would specifically need to know everyone's a cop in order for his EOD play to make sense as scum, which is the only mechanical question that's necessary to sort Drew
I'm confused why Drew's reaction couldn't have come from someone that doesn't know we're all cops. I'm not trying to play dumb I legitimately don't get it. Please explain
In post 1707, Black wrote: python I'll respond to you later I have to leave for work
In post 1718, Black wrote:
In post 1710, usesPython wrote:
In post 1708, usesPython wrote: Like you're coming at it from the perspective of knowing you're cop and seeing the two cop flips, scum would only have the knowledge that Lap is probably trueclaiming Disloyal Cop
This is a townslip from Black
How
In post 1776, Black wrote:
In post 1723, usesPython wrote:
In post 1717, Black wrote:
In post 1704, usesPython wrote:
In post 1701, Black wrote: I'm confused why Drew's reaction couldn't have come from someone that doesn't know we're all cops. I'm not trying to play dumb I legitimately don't get it. Please explain
Imagine if Koba flipped VT (or any other role that wouldn't make everyone think everyone is a cop), how does Drew survive d2?

Answer: Either not at all or with great difficulty

Imagine if Drew didn't hammer and we wagoned someone d1 who flips VT (or any other role that wouldn't make everyone think everyone is a cop) and then Lap gets shot at night (with no clears since they die n1), how does Drew survive d2?

Answer: Easily

In order for Drew aggressively pushing Lap after the claim to make sense he'd specifically need to know it's safe to pretend to be a Cop pushing a fakeclaim and that there'd be enough Cop flips by the start of day 2 that people would assume something's up and predict the Godfathers. Without the two cop flips happening his play doesn't make any sense from a survival perspective and the only way he'd know that people would see two cop flips and predict the setup as scum is if he knew everyone was a cop
Ok, I think I understand what you're saying. I feel like trading one scum in order to kill the Disloyal Cop would probably be a good move, but even then there's no guarantee that everyone just pushes Drew D2. There's a real possibility he could push a Lap fade through and still survive D2
Sure but it's a lot riskier than just shooting Lap at night for the benefit of maybe hitting an extra PR instead of being forced to shoot Lap, the cost/benefit doesn't add up
Idk maybe this is just a disagreement on game theory but I think the benefit of fading Lap and not being forced to NK him far outweighs the risk of losing Drew
In post 1777, Black wrote:
In post 1726, Ranger wrote: Notably, while none of their posting is objectively scummy, vibecheck wise I hard scumread usesPython for page 67.
Mmhmm. I'm getting somewhat of an informed vibe from their reads on Drew and I. If python is scum I think Drew is probably spewed town
In post 1779, Black wrote:
In post 1756, usesPython wrote: "We don't like Blacks posting"

"Sounds like a consolidation wagon"

??? Why are people townreading ketchup again?
Reading ketchup has been pretty difficult for me because in the one game I played with him he posted scummy stuff as town pretty consistently. Then he would randomly have an obvtown post. That's the same behavior I'm seeing here so I don't think I'm interested in voting there currently
In post 1780, Black wrote: VOTE: Titus

I wouldn't mind this though

@python care to join me?
In post 1794, Black wrote: I don't think python/Drew can both be scum though. I feel like python is more likely to bus their teammate instead of hard defend them
In post 1796, Black wrote: I guess I could be wrong about that so it's probably just unlikely as opposed to impossible
In post 1894, Black wrote: python what is your read on Titus
In post 2370, Black wrote:
In post 2368, Political Clout wrote: also kinda weird that python and drew just voted immediately.
Yep. If LG is lying I think one or both may be scum. This was probably their plan going into the day
In post 2385, Black wrote: light/Hu/Drew or light/Hu/python is my solve
In post 2396, Black wrote: Hu what are your reads on python and Drew
In post 2444, Black wrote:
In post 2443, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2442, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 2439, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 2437, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2433, ketchup777 wrote: obvs I think that they are out of order because you and at least one other mafia buddy came together in the night to find anti Light posts, then you just went to the scum PT today, selected multiple quotes and job done
and who is my partner black you said? or hu tao since they voted? or ranger and enchant?
probably you/black/light
secret leaked files of the scum PT today:

Light: gambit go brrrrrrr
Black: distancing time
PC: wahoooooooooooooo
PC: aah ketchup got me
PC: help me black I can't take it anymore
the layers of logic the depths of your mind on how you found me wow I'm in complete awe. You have me floored dead to rights.

how you ignore python and drew voting with light and then assume I'm scum for voting light that's just flawless inductive thinking.
I agree this is really strange. My mind immediately went to Drew/python as possible light partners
In post 2507, Black wrote: I still think it's probably Drew and python. Ketchup is obvtown
In post 2536, Black wrote:
In post 2533, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2532, Black wrote: VOTE: Light

e-1
What happened to me and Python?
I think there are two light partners in {Drew, python, Hu}
In post 2754, Black wrote:
In post 2748, usesPython wrote: Black -> PC probably just ends the game here

VOTE: Black
Found Hu's partner

python and Hu both know I'm busy over the weekends and they're trying to push this through before I get time to solve the game. I guess they just solved it for us

Hu --> python --> Drew wins the game


dump. Black does bring up Python a lot
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Post Post #3163 (isolation #864) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:01 pm

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I guess its interesting how much Black mentioned Python, and contrastingly the only time Black seems to think about Enchant (beyond mentioning me voting Arko day 1) is
In post 2798, Black wrote:
In post 2790, ketchup777 wrote: in English: Ranger flipped VT. Enchant has since claimed cop. Ranger was probs our only VT.
Oh wait I knew that :lol:

My brain has been foggy

I guess scum!Enchant could have originally claimed VT to get the actual VT to claim
for Black, who was so careful to distance thoroughly and constantly with Light, never engaging with scum!Enchant seems like an oversight
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Post Post #3165 (isolation #865) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:08 pm

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In post 3164, usesPython wrote:
In post 3163, ketchup777 wrote: I guess its interesting how much Black mentioned Python, and contrastingly the only time Black seems to think about Enchant (beyond mentioning me voting Arko day 1) is
In post 2798, Black wrote:
In post 2790, ketchup777 wrote: in English: Ranger flipped VT. Enchant has since claimed cop. Ranger was probs our only VT.
Oh wait I knew that :lol:

My brain has been foggy

I guess scum!Enchant could have originally claimed VT to get the actual VT to claim
for Black, who was so careful to distance thoroughly and constantly with Light, never engaging with scum!Enchant seems like an oversight
Black only bothered to talk to light d1, d2 onwards only has 3 light quotes (might be wrong since I control+F'd light_ cause of the light in her title)
that's def not tru
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Post Post #3166 (isolation #866) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:09 pm

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ohh yeah the twilight princess iso block strat aaahhhhhhh
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Post Post #3167 (isolation #867) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:11 pm

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honestly as well another thing is an Enchant+Black+Light scumteam coming into massclaim as 2 non-normal cops feels very weird. this could potentially be a speedrun to losing 2 of your 3 mafia members. Python scum world makes so much more sense
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Post Post #3168 (isolation #868) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:14 pm

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sorry Python, may you dream of sweet dinosaurs tonight or something. I had to go get my toy walrus and zebra to help see me through this one, but I'm hoping for the best. thanks for letting me get to ElO and whichever of you town not self-hammering or anything like that

VOTE: usesPython

adios my friend
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Post Post #3176 (isolation #869) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:34 pm

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LETS GOOOOO : ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Post Post #3180 (isolation #870) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:36 pm

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In post 3171, Alianna wrote:
Spoiler: [i
Role Assignments
[/i]

ketchup777 -
Town Cop

JacksonVirgo -
Town Cop

Black -
Mafia Godfather

Titus -
Town Cop

light_ganski -
Mafia Rolecop-Finder Godfather

Ranger -
Vanilla Townie

Enchant -
Town Cop

usesPython -
Mafia Godfather

Laplacian -
Town Disloyal Cop

Hu Tao -
Town Cop

DkKoba -
Town Cop

Political Clout -
Town Cop

Doctor Drew -
Town Cop



Night 1 Actions


ketchup777 uses cop ability on Enchant.
JacksonVirgo uses cop ability on Enchant.
Titus uses cop ability on Ranger.
Enchant uses cop ability on usesPython.
Hu Tao uses cop ability on Political Clout.
DkKoba uses cop ability on Titus.
Political Clout uses cop ability on Titus.
Doctor Drew uses cop ability on usesPython.

light_ganski uses rolecop-finder ability on Enchant.
Black uses factional kill on DkKoba.


Night 1 Resolution


DkKoba dies.

ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with the
town
."
JacksonVirgo receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with the
town
."
Titus receives the message, "Your target, Ranger, is aligned with the
town
."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, usesPython, is aligned with the
town
."
Hu Tao receives the message, "Your target, Political Clout, is aligned with the
town
."
DkKoba receives the message, "Your target, Titus, is aligned with the
town
."
Political Clout receives the message, "Your target, Titus, is aligned with the
town
."
Doctor Drew receives the message, "Your target, usesPython, is aligned with the
town
."
light_ganski receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is not a rolecop."


Night 2 Actions


ketchup777 uses cop ability on Hu Tao.
JacksonVirgo uses cop ability on ketchup777.
Enchant uses cop ability on ketchup777.
Hu Tao uses cop ability on JacksonVirgo.
Political Clout uses cop ability on Enchant.
Doctor Drew uses cop ability on Black.

light_ganski uses rolecop-finder ability on Political Clout.
usesPython uses factional kill on JacksonVirgo.


Night 2 Resolution


JacksonVirgo dies.

ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, Hu Tao, is aligned with the
town
."
JacksonVirgo receives the message, "Your target, ketchup777, is aligned with the
town
."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, ketchup777, is aligned with the
town
."
Hu Tao receives the message, "Your target, JacksonVirgo, is aligned with the
town
."
Political Clout receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with the
town
."
Doctor Drew receives the message, "Your target, Black, is aligned with the
town
."
light_ganski receives the message, "Your target, Ranger, is not a rolecop."


Night 3 Actions


ketchup777 uses cop ability on Doctor Drew.
Enchant uses cop ability on Hu Tao.
Hu Tao uses cop ability on Black.
Political Clout uses cop ability on Hu Tao.
Doctor Drew uses cop ability on Political Clout.

Black uses factional kill on Ranger.


Night 3 Resolution


Ranger dies.

ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, Doctor Drew, is aligned with the
town
."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, Hu Tao, is aligned with the
town
."
Hu Tao receives the message, "Your target, Black, is aligned with the
town
."
Political Clout receives the message, "Your target, Hu Tao, is aligned with the
town
."
Doctor Drew receives the message, "Your target, Political Clout, is aligned with the
town
."


Night 4 Actions


ketchup777 uses cop ability on Political Clout.
Enchant uses cop ability on Doctor Drew.
Hu Tao uses cop ability on Enchant.
Political Clout uses cop ability on Doctor Drew.
Doctor Drew uses cop ability on Enchant.

usesPython uses factional kill on Doctor Drew.


Night 4 Resolution


Doctor Drew dies.

ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, Political Clout, is aligned with the
town
."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, Doctor Drew, is aligned with the
town
."
Hu Tao receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with the
town
."
Political Clout receives the message, "Your target, Doctor Drew, is aligned with the
town
."
Doctor Drew receives the message, "Your target, Enchant, is aligned with the
town
."


Night 5 Actions


ketchup777 uses cop ability on usesPython.
Enchant uses cop ability on usesPython.
Hu Tao takes no action.

usesPython uses factional kill on Hu Tao.


Night 5 Resolution


Hu Tao dies.

ketchup777 receives the message, "Your target, usesPython, is aligned with the
town
."
Enchant receives the message, "Your target, usesPython, is aligned with the
town
."
lmao the night actions

interesting that they did rolecop-finder Enchant and that’s maybe why they didn’t kill Enchant N2 ig
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Post Post #3181 (isolation #871) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:37 pm

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In post 3178, Black wrote: KETCHUP YOU ARE SO GOOD WHAT THE HECK!!!
YOU TOO <333
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Post Post #3183 (isolation #872) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:37 pm

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In post 3182, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 3178, Black wrote: KETCHUP YOU ARE SO GOOD WHAT THE HECK!!!
This is why I can't trust him lol

AND TO THINK YOU SENT A CAR TO TAKE HIM OUT!!
OMG THAT WAS BLACK??
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Post Post #3185 (isolation #873) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:38 pm

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In post 3179, Black wrote: Well played town and thank you Alianna for modding! <3
yes thank you Alianna, I had a lot of fun (:
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Post Post #3190 (isolation #874) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:39 pm

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In post 2649, Enchant wrote: Anyway why mafia didn't bother to kill me when i was "conftown", but when ranger conftown, Ranger instadies.


Do ya all think i am incompetent.
In post 3184, usesPython wrote:
In post 3180, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 3171, Alianna wrote:
Spoiler: [i


No we figured Enchant wasn't a threat
lol
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Post Post #3193 (isolation #875) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:40 pm

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In post 3192, Cabd wrote: Congrats to ketchup on what I am sure is gonna be a memory you will have for ages, getting it right in 3P. Always such a scary propitiation.
thanks random person (:
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Post Post #3196 (isolation #876) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:41 pm

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it sure feels good! altho well done Enchant for getting it right as well!
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Post Post #3202 (isolation #877) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:52 pm

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In post 3201, Black wrote:
In post 3193, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 3192, Cabd wrote: Congrats to ketchup on what I am sure is gonna be a memory you will have for ages, getting it right in 3P. Always such a scary propitiation.
thanks random person (:
This made me lol

Idk Cadb but they seem very cool and they have good taste in Genshin characters
I’ve never played genshin but I’ll trust you here …not that that’s gone very well these two games(;
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Post Post #3203 (isolation #878) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:54 pm

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In post 1, Enchant wrote: Well i am Town Cop. Can't wait to learn that all mafia are godfathers, and disloyal cop was our only hope.

But just in case, i gonna use my things.

(from enchants notes) lmao
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Post Post #3204 (isolation #879) » Thu Mar 28, 2024 2:44 pm

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In post 137, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 133, Black wrote: Hu let's make mustard and mayonnaise alts and join the next game he plays :lol:
:lol:
OI (:
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Post Post #3210 (isolation #880) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:51 am

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funny all 5 of us from my first game rolled the same alignment (:
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Post Post #3223 (isolation #881) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:30 am

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In post 3211, Black wrote:
In post 3210, ketchup777 wrote: funny all 5 of us from my first game rolled the same alignment (:
Maybe you can roll scum with me next time? When we kill people we will cover their bodies in ketchup to make it seem way more gruesome than it actually is
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Post Post #3224 (isolation #882) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:31 am

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In post 3212, Ranger wrote:
In post 2461, Ranger wrote:{Enchant}
{ketchup777}
{Doctor Drew}
{Political Clout}
{Hu Tao}
{UsesPython}
{Black}
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{Light_ganski}
huh
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Post Post #3228 (isolation #883) » Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:50 pm

Post by ketchup777 »

In post 3227, Political Clout wrote: ketchup is a god
sorry for mislim (:

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