Open 909 | A Newbie Game | Game Over

[JacksonVirgo]

what's pinging me about jackson is that he's not scumhunting

You’re telling me “ketchup bad” isn’t scum hunting? Say it ain’t so

But ketchup bad!!!

[humaneatingmonkey]

im afraid if we do focus on purplemango, there wouldn't be space to give pressure to slots i want to get pressured because it seems purplemango is an easy elimination. there's a consensus that he's acting sus. what i really want is to pressure jackson more. I'm not sure how, as town, is he playing in a way that's trying to find scum. that's not what I'm seeing at all. even his ketchup push feels forced.

[humaneatingmonkey]

jackson can you like give me an insight into where your head is at this game

[skitter30]

Kay how would you feel abt a mango vote?

I’d feel better about one if those wanting to and/or voting him would engage with my post dedicated to analyzing his ISO. At the moment, it looks to me like you are trying to get a wagon to start no matter who it is and that feels off to me. SF didn’t go anywhere, Jackson didn’t go anywhere, and I don’t see you having concrete reasons to vote these 3 so it feels moreso like you just want to vote anyone. It’s making me pay more attention to those you haven’t tried pushing at all.

Yeah, I'm kinda having a hard time getting ~into the game and I think part of that is that a lot of wagons are kinda stagnating. I'm trying to make something for myself to engage with that will hopefully produce results i can read

[humaneatingmonkey]

i kinda feel like you're trying to have fun, keeping it cool, and checking out ketchup's slot but i don't really feel as if you believe that. especially after your advice on dragon where I'm trying to see if you would do that on ketchup but it's missing pizzaz.

[skitter30]

Here’s my overview of

PurpleMango

in this game thus far:

His first few posts were fluff, joining in with the rest of us. NAI in any way.

His first seemingly serious posts are defending sleepy/skitter-slot: 308, 312, 314, 317, 320.

Moving the conversation onto someone else: 322.

Asking dragon about his sus on sleepy/skitter-slot: 328, 331, 337.

Being quite irresolute with his reads: 341, 342, 344, 347.

Makes a solid claim about reads in 439 but then walks it back immediately into uncertain territory with 441.

More ambiguity with 539.

First real reads in 985 but then gets slightly less sturdy with 1002 and 1003.

It feels like the willingness to vote skitter in 1005 is disingenuous distancing? (possibly)

Offers to expand on the one thing he seems most certain of in 1132, we shall see if that post ever comes to fruition.

My conclusion is that if he is scum, it seems very likely that it’s with skitter just from his ISO. But this is a tentative idea in my head.

Any and all comments, criticisms, and responses are quite welcome.

My issue with a lot of what he'a doing is that it doesn't seem like he has solid reads, but is kind of wiffle-waffle-y

[skitter30]

Yeah I feel a sense of bravado around jackson's votes that keeps pinging me but they also said somewhere that this is a purposeful playstyle choice so i'm trying not to read too much into that

[humaneatingmonkey]

my review of KJQ's case is that i townread it very much so, especially in the circumstance that she did it in the game, but also... and i don't want to discourage it... but it seems very confbiased to purple as scum and less evaluative on what town!purple would look like.

[Ydrasse]

my 2 min quickdraw analysis of purple is that his primary concern seems to be answering people in a way that they want rather than in a hunt-y way

[KayJayQueue]

my review of KJQ's case is that i townread it very much so, especially in the circumstance that she did it in the game, but also... and i don't want to discourage it... but it seems very confbiased to purple as scum and less evaluative on what town!purple would look like.

That’s probably extremely accurate, I’d have to look into his old games to get a better read on him as town.

[zachheus]

Yeah I feel a sense of bravado around jackson's votes that keeps pinging me but they also said somewhere that this is a purposeful playstyle choice so i'm trying not to read too much into that

This is why I have found it impossible to have a read on Jackson from the beginning

[Ydrasse]

hedgy otoh i think that behavior can come from newer town a bit more being very like... "i am going to go with this person's take more because i don't have the confidence yet"

[KayJayQueue]

Or you could be like me and have too much confidence in your reads that are actually way off. I’m a pro at this!

[Purplemango]

Here’s my overview of

PurpleMango

in this game thus far:

His first few posts were fluff, joining in with the rest of us. NAI in any way.

His first seemingly serious posts are defending sleepy/skitter-slot: 308, 312, 314, 317, 320.

Moving the conversation onto someone else: 322.

Asking dragon about his sus on sleepy/skitter-slot: 328, 331, 337.

Being quite irresolute with his reads: 341, 342, 344, 347.

Makes a solid claim about reads in 439 but then walks it back immediately into uncertain territory with 441.

More ambiguity with 539.

First real reads in 985 but then gets slightly less sturdy with 1002 and 1003.

It feels like the willingness to vote skitter in 1005 is disingenuous distancing? (possibly)

Offers to expand on the one thing he seems most certain of in 1132, we shall see if that post ever comes to fruition.

My conclusion is that if he is scum, it seems very likely that it’s with skitter just from his ISO. But this is a tentative idea in my head.

Any and all comments, criticisms, and responses are quite welcome.

My issue with a lot of what he'a doing is that it doesn't seem like he has solid reads, but is kind of wiffle-waffle-y

I don't think there will a time where it'll be like "oh yea i'm sure kay is town" or something like that
I still try to give my thoughts kinda
I can be too much sure in random things, its sound funny

[KayJayQueue]

I don't think there will a time where it'll be like "oh yea i'm sure kay is town" or something like that
I still try to give my thoughts kinda
I can be too much sure in random things, its sound funny

Come on I know you wanna townread me!

[JacksonVirgo]

jackson can you like give me an insight into where your head is at this game

A lot of this game has been pretty stunted for me because of the weird stick up the ass behaviour from the experienced players and the amount of fluff-posting from the top three players, myself included, so the people who post a small amount I don’t have a strong read about which I’ll try and rectify.

Where I’m at is that I’m fairly skeptical about ketchup in particular, there’s a few things about them that I actively believe is scummy and then some that I feel would be weird to but knowing how ketchup plays and that I don’t have a reference to a scum game of his so I’m actively doing my best to be impartial and see him for what he is this time around.

I think purple was townie based on the fact that their behaviour was almost twtbw status. I didn’t expect a wolf to be outwardly okay with voting somebody with no reason. I feel a scum instinctively wants to add some form of reasoning behind their actions. There wasn’t really any, the only semblance of doubt there would be a direct pairing with skitter.

In retrospect I’m thinking dragons posts looked bad because of how dragon speaks in particular more than anything to do with the game. You came in and I feel a conflict with you but this feeing resembles the Frenemies game so I’m discounting that feeling somewhat and trying to look further than it. I think your talk about thread health was good, I could understand why a townie would want to restore it but also I’m labelling this as NAI as you could also have just said this out of respect for the game itself snd the newer players. Initially I thought it was scummy how you had few reads, but kept complaining about things and in fact I got a little frustrated you telling me Im not scum hunting while you’ve shared fuck all yourself of actual substance. Overall I think I’m reading you as scummy just because it’s you, and that’s stupid so in an attempt to look beyond that I think you’re town but I am still working through this. When I find time to actually sink into putting a lot more thought I will be coming back to this.

For skitter I don’t like how neutral they’ve been acting since day start. They’ve started the game townreading dragon, I don’t recall a single time they explained this except “pushing out of rvs is good, *thumbs up*” and the behaviours around early pushes were wither reciprocations or shutting down an idea. I don’t recall a single unique thought they had about a scumread except the read on me and even then it was vague and ended up seeming like just because they don’t understand my mindset that I’m wolfy, this is just incredibly shallow reasoning as the only push they’ve seemed to do on their own and now recently they’ve even acted neutral towards that calling that same reason to scumread me as logic to neutral read me almost. It’s different words but it’s looking at the same stuff.

[JacksonVirgo]

Feel free to ask me to clarify anything

[JacksonVirgo]

That’s my primary four focus, I have reads outside of them but I’m barely thinking about them. I should be though

[Dannflor]

Prodding StraightFlush.

[zachheus]

I don't think there will a time where it'll be like "oh yea i'm sure kay is town" or something like that
I still try to give my thoughts kinda
I can be too much sure in random things, its sound funny

I can relate to this but I think it's healthier for the game state if we (like us specifically since we're on the lower end of posting) just post more and give the others content to work with even if we aren't confident in our thoughts. The only way to improve at the game is to engage, not that I'm calling you bad or anything since I have no way of knowing but hopefully you understand what I'm saying

[JacksonVirgo]

Yeah I feel a sense of bravado around jackson's votes that keeps pinging me but they also said somewhere that this is a purposeful playstyle choice so i'm trying not to read too much into that

This is why I have found it impossible to have a read on Jackson from the beginning

Is it? Can you elaborate

[zachheus]

Yeah I feel a sense of bravado around jackson's votes that keeps pinging me but they also said somewhere that this is a purposeful playstyle choice so i'm trying not to read too much into that

This is why I have found it impossible to have a read on Jackson from the beginning

Is it? Can you elaborate

I just haven't been sure what to make of your general aura/personality and how that translates to the game. You project as knowledgeable and charismatic and it makes me sort of inherently want to give more weight to what you say since I'm quite new to all of this but I'm also aware of how that can be a bad thing lol. So I come away unsure of what to make of you.

[KayJayQueue]

I’d like to comment on the Jack-dragon interaction because I think I have a good read on it. I think it was NAI on both of their parts. If Jack is pinging anyone based off of that, I’m fairly confident he was just genuinely annoyed at dragon. I’m not saying it absolves him of anything else in the game but that specific encounter I’d like to firmly say is NAI for Jack (and I’m semi-confident it was the same from dragon but things he did before and after were possibly AI, however maybe the lines are blurred)

[humaneatingmonkey]

i don't feel as if i've been stuck up, nor do i think ydrasse has been stuck up. anybody really feel this way about us?

yeah i laughed when i left skitter out of there, too.

[KayJayQueue]

Short answer: yes