(micro 1101) mystery box of silver 16: tinkleton (it tinkled)

[Psyche]

is still possible!
but a gypx/robert pairing is possible too, as well as snow/robert (wow!)

ive ruled out everyone else

[Doctor Drew]

is still possible!
but a gypx/robert pairing is possible too, as well as snow/robert (wow!)

ive ruled out everyone else

Why aren't you voting HPE then?

[Psyche]

im a coward :]

[Psyche]

VOTE: gypx

[HighPrincessErinys]

honestly, we have one more free mislim so i'm pretty sure the game is solved. or at least it would be if i could control every lim.

cant wait for psyche to be scum all along /lh

[HighPrincessErinys]

also damn ausuka got replaced, rip

[Doctor Drew]

also damn ausuka got replaced, rip

I agree, quite the downgrade

[Snow2697]

VOTE: Political Clout

[Psyche]

i put in a lot of work to think through whether it can be pc
i also have a good measure of recent meta experience with pc
it's not pc

[Gypyx]

i put in a lot of work to think through whether it can be pc
i also have a good measure of recent meta experience with pc
it's not pc

problem is that there's only 7 players and some people must be scum

[Gypyx]

VOTE: HighPrincess

[Psyche]

VOTE: snow

[Political Clout]

VOTE: snow

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: snow

Wasn't this guy towncasing snow or is this one just forgoring

[Snow2697]

Seems like I am getting a wagon on me ...

[Gypyx]

it was me !

To be fair like, i'm not fully convinced in my towncase myself, it's more of a 20% scum read (default would be 40% in our context) but i'd really be happier if we tried PC / HPE

[Psyche]

snow really does look like a reasonable guess but im still hoping there's something i've missed so far that could add more confidence to a decision

[Psyche]

drew proposed that i should downweight the snow/gypx team because gypx towncased him
my intuition is still that this is unclear; it looks like in context that gypx was pressured somewhat to elaborate on a snow read that otherwise might have just never been pressed
whether snow is her bud or not, that would have given plenty of reason to try to be convincing in that post

[Psyche]

ideal route to building further consensus is probably further litigation of PC
would also do a lot to sort HPE/Gypx/Snow, since a PC townread probably commits the scum among them to scumreading one another

[HighPrincessErinys]

Hi, this one is laptop posting from a library. Gonna be here a while so don't think that my PC/Snow look-ups are doable today, which is on me. This one thinks Snow is like, fine, it guesses, for a wagon? But it can't in good conscience really say anything either way when it has like no business making reads on Snow when he flew even harder under the radar for me than PC. If this one takes a looksee today it probably won't be able to show its work until later because fuuuuuuck compiling an ISO wall on a trackpad.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Oh and, it's reading Moby Dick, if anyone cares/was curious.

[Psyche]

urgh. at least one person in this convo sure is good at mafia or whatever

[HighPrincessErinys]

Snow only has 25 posts so like... Ugh, fine, we'll do a wall.

69: So like, even this one didn't read all of 67, as outspoken as it is about being a Deus fan. Definitely strikes me as townie diligence that snow would actively try to comprehend Deus and sort them out.

82: This one has always stumped me, despite seeing it several times thanks to Gypyx's citing of it, but this one just can't figure out what its trying to say!!! Blaming the grammar, would love to hear from others and what they got from it.

92: Already commented on this as part of Gypyx, but want to state its a benign, NAI post to me otherwise.

97 continues the trend of trying to figure out Deus and work with them. Similarly want to call this townie like this one did with Psyche's efforts.
98 however... This one doesn't know the general MS take on "If it's not them kill me tomorrow" strats, but its definitely of the personal opinion that they suck and just result in town mislims. You could argue it's scum!snow preying on a currently VERY confident Gypyx to try and get them kersploded D2 after their scumreads, which scum!snow might know are possibly very wrong, flip town on elim.

194 is also a very similar brand of sketchy. It almost feels like kissing up to Deus, except Deus isn't even in the game anymore. Moreover, it's just a REALLY fuckin' weird thing to say imho, "oh this player is so cool and right and townreading me, and you have them as top townread, so why aren't you townreading me too?". Also just don't like how long it is after his last post that he says this.
200 stumps a little, like 82, but the message is atleast still mostly clear. It definitely feels like snow would LOVE a free townread right about now, like this is just a little too much to be a bit methinks.

385: This one doesn't remember rn who said that asking this in public is +town, but this one quite disagrees that scum!snow asks that in scum PT instead. It's a pretty benign thing to ask under the circumstances, and mafia will usually be fine posting those benign, NAI questions. It's also worth considering in the first place that Cakez was, at that point, a pretty surefire wagon, which this one doesn't think is something that would give scum cause to ask their partner if it was hammer. Don't know what kind of non-scum wagon would ever give scum cause to censor themselves like that, to be frank. Like it said: Benign, easy question: Is this guy dead yet?
390 is another similar, easy question. It's alot stranger though, when there's really no reason to believe there could be 3 scum in this 9-player setup. This one honestly doesn't know what to make of it compared to 385, because this one believes snow to be smarter than to have to ask that, but if he's asking at all, maybe he's testing the waters...? Testing how, idfk, this one is starting to post blatant conjecture at this point, but, it's mystifying either way. Maybe the questions he's asking leading up to his unvote in 400 should tell me that snow isn't as used to mafia as this one thinks he is, the account is pretty new after all, but still. Inquiring as to the implications of Cakez's role could be genuine, but NOT 385.

402... This one thinks it would like to leave it at that and revisit it's thoughts on 385 to Cakez vote at a later time when it's not doing this half an hour to closing time on a laptop. We'll just say it's opportunistic for now or something, it's a pretty bad coalescence onto the Cakez wagon.

423: Still looking for townreads, methinks.

479: Would reallllllllly like to see some elaboration on WHY, other than feeling better.

582: Snow's trajectory on PC up until this point doesn't exist, but you probably didn't need me to tell you that. The most this one can attribute to reasoning is a Gypyx sheep, but then you gotta still wonder what the hell has Gypyx done to make sheeping her worth it to town!snow?

589: And do you have

anything else

to say about it?


This took a major 180 after the first few points, huh. This one is going to leave things here for now and check in on those pins it placed on Gypyx's snow-related posts, and of course see about de-ramblifying some of my points (we'll fuckin see), but this one is definitely happy with a snow wagon today. Not sure what votes stand at rn so not going to vote. And besides...

This one wants to grill 'im.

[HighPrincessErinys]

snow flipping scum might resolve PC, also. So yeah, let's see this guy flipped today, please.

[HighPrincessErinys]

snow flipping scum might resolve PC, also. So yeah, let's see this guy flipped today, please.

Seeing PC's naked votes, even including against snow, don't exactly spark joy even with this in mind, but we'll see.