Open 908: Aureal Is Hoarding All The Game Names | Game Over

[the worst]

696?

I think you're trying to achieve scum things instead of town things

I think you're seeing the things I'm seeing again,,

to an extent yeay

[the worst]

Anyway wifom yadda yadda. I think me arguing this makes me look scummier so I didn't want to. But it's the truth

it's not that, more that like, you can't convince us you're town in a vacuum & we can't convince you that you're scum in a vacuum. your points are valid, it's just the job of the rest of the list to decide if we value them more highly or less highly than the alignment indicators pointing the other way

my best answer is that bussing d1 then soaring into the endgame isn't an unreasonable or uncommon strat in a micro esp if scum had a tpr read on Bingle.

that's also not a compelling argument it's just a "black can still be scum" kind of qualifier

[the worst]

I disagree it makes you look scummier

It’s the most compelling point for you being town to me so far

worded better than me I'm just not confident on where to look next rn

perhaps I have more work to do

[the worst]

PC is my natural next push. I like Klick's towncase on PC. I think my reaction to it is more like "maybe" than "yes" and stuff tho. I don't feel like I like his associatives with cjv all that much but no huge red flags.

Wonder if PC's very individualist narrative is him doing his own thing & solving the game or whether it's him missing what we're all seeing.

[the worst]

These are half formed brain thoughts

[Black]

Getting awful vibes from the worst here. Feels like he's trying to buddy up to Dann while simultaneously being very amicable with me. Part of me feels like he knows I'm town

[Black]

I disagree it makes you look scummier

It’s the most compelling point for you being town to me so far

Meh. I guess I'm thinking that if I were scum then my plan here would have had to of been a) bus ceejay and b) try to clear myself off that. I don't want to do what scum me would do because I'm town

[Dannflor]

the worst can you describe the dream that made you go from scum!implosion to town!implosion

[Dannflor]

Meh. I guess I'm thinking that if I were scum then my plan here would have had to of been a) bus ceejay and b) try to clear myself off that. I don't want to do what scum me would do because I'm town

sometimes the correct play is the same for both alignments

[Black]

Meh. I guess I'm thinking that if I were scum then my plan here would have had to of been a) bus ceejay and b) try to clear myself off that. I don't want to do what scum me would do because I'm town

sometimes the correct play is the same for both alignments

I don't think the correct play is to try and clear myself off the hammer. I think I need to show everyone that I'm town a different way and that's what I was doing with my solving thoughts

[Dannflor]

can I get a picture of where you're at with everyone?

[Klick]

I don't see the logic in me hammering ceejay when he was being prodded. I would have waited for him to either pop in and fake claim and then unvoted or I would have waited for a replacement to do the same. The hammer doesn't clear me so it's just such an awful move as scum and I typically don't make too many of those

I'll think about this more when my head is clearwe

[Klick]

UNVOTE:

[Klick]

Oh, worth noting

V/LA for 9 days

I'll be travelling back home. I will stoll have access, just not focusing as much on this. Shouldn't be terribly disruptive compared to my current routine.

[Dannflor]

a small point in favor of town!black is CeeJay's first read of the game being "maybe black town and not much else"

I think it's more likely that type of early read is more likely to be on a townie while you're waiting to see how the winds may blow re: your partner

[Dannflor]

i think if i were to instant day vigilante kill someone right now based purely on the scum equity of each slot’s associations with flipped scum I would shoot Political Clout

[Black]

can I get a picture of where you're at with everyone?

Probably not in a way that will satisfy you

Things are pretty fuzzy and I don't have a lot of conviction in my reads

I think you're probably town. It really feels like you're trying to figure things out and your reads are fluid in a way I would expect from a townie trying to figure things out. If you're deepwolfing then congratulations I guess

I have no clue how to read NM

I think scum is probably within the rest of the players. This group is really hard for me to sort through atm which is why I want to take a deeper look with the ceejay flip in mind

I got the chance to look at some implo interactions earlier and I didn't like what I saw

tw feels really political or something. I feel like that's the best way to describe it. I remember not liking him earlier in the game too but I'm struggling with the possibility that I might just be scumreading his personality and style of posting

PC and Klick would probably be at the top of my scum pile if that area exists. PC's lack of engagement in the game is kinda worrying me a little. Him following me onto implosion is part of that. It kinda feels like he's on the outside looking in

Klick is just hard for me to read and I've been struggling with that one all game. I'm hoping my deep dive will help but I doubt it

[Black]

I'm not gonna be around too much this weekend as usual but I WILL deep dive at some point. Just give me time

[Dannflor]

yeah I mean for what it’s worth I think the worst comes off that way to people a lot of the time when he’s town

not saying he can’t be scum but his level of political and social engagement isn’t unusual

[Dannflor]

I think Klick is one of the slots I’m most confident on being town right now

[Dannflor]

Or the slot even

[Dannflor]

I think the trajectory he took on ceejay is just very unintuitive from a scum perspective and doesn’t obviously net him credit

Like if he’s gonna bus why not commit to the bus?

I also don’t think ceejay responded to Klick’s push in a partnered way

[Black]

@ceejay
What are your two strongest reads, right this second?

PEdit: that's quite scary

I kinda wanna townread Klick for this. I didn't get the chance to properly digest it at the time but we mindmelded here. To me that indicates he was thinking from a townie perspective

[Black]

I think Klick is one of the slots I’m most confident on being town right now

I'm down to just outsource my read here tbh. Would save me some workload

[Black]

I looked through his ISO a little and I would say I feel better about him than everyone else in my PoE now