Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Evens/odds is only like a marginal advantage/disadvantage. And probably wouldn’t be my main concern.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

Kagerou not to pull you off the dai/yuuka team but what do you think about kaguya?

Possible to consider only after Dai flips. Not mech cleared but they are solving just not in a smart way.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

And look good doing it, that’s the point of doing it.

idk why people aren't getting this: She only looked good cause I held back the hood, therefore for it to be better than just not suiciding she'd need to have predicted I'd hold back the hood

Eli5 please

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Kaguya, did yuuka/dai’s timing on when dai came back to thread not bother you at all?

I’ve been mulling over it for awhile now.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Evens/odds is only like a marginal advantage/disadvantage. And probably wouldn’t be my main concern.

Even/odds is the difference between having 1 conftown in 5p and having 0 conftown in 5p

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Evens/odds is only like a marginal advantage/disadvantage. And probably wouldn’t be my main concern.

Even/odds is the difference between having 1 conftown in 5p and having 0 conftown in 5p

That’s what marginal means yes.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

And look good doing it, that’s the point of doing it.

idk why people aren't getting this: She only looked good cause I held back the hood, therefore for it to be better than just not suiciding she'd need to have predicted I'd hold back the hood

Eli5 please

If I immediately claim the Clownpiece hood then town Dai has 0 reason to be reviving D3. Therefore coming back would be a scumclaim. Therefore for suiciding and coming back to be a good scum move she'd need to predict in advance that I'd hold back the Clownpiece hood for long enough for it to look bad

The alternative move would have just been to not kill Clownpiece in the first place and go shoot someone else which would avoid having to suicide and would be easy to pull off given that Clownpiece claimed Charged Commuter who's commuting N2 in thread D2

[Kaguya Houraisan]

It would especially be a scumclaim given that she claimed in thread D2 that she'd be trying to kill herself for the rest of the game

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

I still don't get how any of that is relevant. Dai had two nightshots FoSing her. They're an investigation target. I don't see how a Clownpiece hood has any relevance.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Kaguya, did yuuka/dai’s timing on when dai came back to thread not bother you at all?

I’ve been mulling over it for awhile now.

What do you mean? Dai came back like 10 minutes before 24 hours after the flip passed and also claimed to be on a timer for sending in the revive command

[Koishi Komeiji]

Hey team.

I'm uh, in pretty bad shape IRL health wise.

I'm not gonna have brain cells for this game until maybe this evening at the soonest.

I'm trying to follow along but my mind is super cloudy. I did want to note that the no elim scenario, my role protects against all non killing scum actions to my target as well. It's in my claim from before, wolf lass. Go look that up I can't find it on my mobile device right now. I also resolve before blocks. So it's a super bodyguard not a traditional one.

[Koishi Komeiji]

Kaguya, did yuuka/dai’s timing on when dai came back to thread not bother you at all?

I’ve been mulling over it for awhile now.

What do you mean? Dai came back like 10 minutes before 24 hours after the flip passed and also claimed to be on a timer for sending in the revive command

Why does anyone of any any alignment NOT press the button I guess is my objection to this being clearing.


And we don't actively have any proof that this timer exists.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Dai came back after yuuka publicly voiced concern about who clownpiece was in the hood with. Dai came back like immediately after.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I still don't get how any of that is relevant. Dai had two nightshots FoSing her. They're an investigation target. I don't see how a Clownpiece hood has any relevance.

Clownpiece claimed Charged Commuter who's Commuting N2 on D2. The only people that knew this to be a fakeclaim were Aya (conftown) and me (since Clownpiece claimed it in the hood) and also anyone who targeted Clownpiece N1. Since I wasn't claiming the hood that means that no one was claiming the hood -> Assumption is that scum got put in the hood and don't want to come out with that info

[Koishi Komeiji]

Okay back to sleep to me.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Kaguya, did yuuka/dai’s timing on when dai came back to thread not bother you at all?

I’ve been mulling over it for awhile now.

What do you mean? Dai came back like 10 minutes before 24 hours after the flip passed and also claimed to be on a timer for sending in the revive command

Why does anyone of any any alignment NOT press the button I guess is my objection to this being clearing.


And we don't actively have any proof that this timer exists.

Pressing the button isn't clearing, it's getting into the scenario where you have to press the button in the first place when you control all the kills that's clearing

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Dai came back after yuuka publicly voiced concern about who clownpiece was in the hood with. Dai came back like immediately after.

What's your point?

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Hey team.

I'm uh, in pretty bad shape IRL health wise.

I'm not gonna have brain cells for this game until maybe this evening at the soonest.

I'm trying to follow along but my mind is super cloudy. I did want to note that the no elim scenario, my role protects against all non killing scum actions to my target as well. It's in my claim from before, wolf lass. Go look that up I can't find it on my mobile device right now. I also resolve before blocks. So it's a super bodyguard not a traditional one.

Feel better soon. Unless you kill me here, then feel bad but also better.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Dai came back after yuuka publicly voiced concern about who clownpiece was in the hood with. Dai came back like immediately after.

What's your point?

I was curious why it never even crossed your mind as suspicious.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Dai came back after yuuka publicly voiced concern about who clownpiece was in the hood with. Dai came back like immediately after.

What's your point?

I was curious why it never even crossed your mind as suspicious.

I don't understand why it'd be suspicious

[Yuuka Kazami]

Pretty sure I noted that they had to jump out, when I questioned Kaguya about why they were clearing Dai for jumping out.
I just didn't think they *could* jump out. Dai does not need to jump out because I was shading them if we are partners. They could've just stayed in their shell to avoid it. It's not like I wasn't gunna try and carry from a Dai/Yuuka scum team perspective.

I also just outright assumed that they were a loud, um, I don't know what the role is. A player that just exits the game for an entire day phase.


Feel better Koushi, sorry you're having health issues.

[Yuuka Kazami]

I guess I could have coordinated with them.
But then I spent hours faking ignorance when apparently, I knew the whole time what they were discussing and what their roles were.
That would be hard to fake and come off as unnatural.
If you think how I was posting was unnatural there, I'd be pretty surprised.

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

Yuuka makes the public realization that the clownpiece hood is unclaimed, dai pops back in with the knowledge you were in the hood with clown and drops a vote. It would be suspicious if I were you. It doesn’t involve me and I made note of it timing wise.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Yuuka makes the public realization that the clownpiece hood is unclaimed, dai pops back in with the knowledge you were in the hood with clown and drops a vote. It would be suspicious if I were you. It doesn’t involve me and I made note of it timing wise.

Still not getting why this is suspicious, do you think other people weren't having the realization of "everyone checked in and no one has claimed the hood -> either Dai or scum were in the hood" just without posting it?

[Reisen Udongein Inaba]

I guess I could have coordinated with them.
But then I spent hours faking ignorance when apparently, I knew the whole time what they were discussing and what their roles were.
That would be hard to fake and come off as unnatural.
If you think how I was posting was unnatural there, I'd be pretty surprised.

That’s fair.

So this is the crossroads I’m at. Dai is still on the outside of my townreads.

I’m not too invested in yuuka/dai

I think kaguyas behavior comes off scummy, but a S/S hood with dai also doesn’t make sense to me. Not to mention they could just not mention the hood at all if so.