Can I have a day to read everything? I dont even know if I think Kagerou is town or not.
My first step is figuring out why we don't always just kill Yuuka from the supposed 1v1 yesterday. Then I decide if I wanna off Reisen. Then I look at Kagerou's play. Then I examine you.
Like I was expectijg to be able to use the day before ELO with a dai kill to reevaluate. And then it was nothing I could do. It sucked. Now I am the confirmed townie who has had little to jo motivation all game trying to actually win so my ego is gonna be huge today.
In post 5779, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
Can I have a day to read everything? I dont even know if I think Kagerou is town or not.
My first step is figuring out why we don't always just kill Yuuka from the supposed 1v1 yesterday. Then I decide if I wanna off Reisen. Then I look at Kagerou's play. Then I examine you.
Yesterday wasn't a 1v1 because Yuuka already claimed to have used all her spellcards before Marisa flipped so the roleblock announcement wouldn't have triggered (This doesn't clear her, just makes it not a 1v1)
In post 5779, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
Can I have a day to read everything? I dont even know if I think Kagerou is town or not.
My first step is figuring out why we don't always just kill Yuuka from the supposed 1v1 yesterday. Then I decide if I wanna off Reisen. Then I look at Kagerou's play. Then I examine you.
Yesterday wasn't a 1v1 because Yuuka already claimed to have used all her spellcards before Marisa flipped so the roleblock announcement wouldn't have triggered (This doesn't clear her, just makes it not a 1v1)
In post 5784, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
I think the 4 Docs/BPs is legit unplayable for scum without the Jugg shot. Even with a Roleblocker Active there's just too much defense to go through
You can get around the Superstar passive making it obvious who the vig is by using the factional kill to make a reasonable looking vig shot while using Master Spark to get around Doc/BP, then just claiming the factional kill as the Master Spark shot and pretending the Master Spark shot was the factional kill
In post 5790, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
Glad to see your WIM is intact.
I’m not even sure how I’m supposed to ask you or differentiate between: you came up with what would save you.
Not sure how you'd get anything meaningful from that. Aya's taking the bullet tonight so winning this game requires me to not get limmed.
I meant how you construed the Marisa Lim served you well. If someone took an opportunity handed to them, it was pretty much you.
No I mean think about it: if it's Reisen/Kagerou then you admitting to not be roleblocked immediately turns the game into a TvT 1v1. At that point looking like you're going slow is where you wanna be, especially if scum had multiple blocks and blocked the spellcard.
I meant how you construed the Marisa Lim served you well. If someone took an opportunity handed to them, it was pretty much you.
No I mean think about it: if it's Reisen/Kagerou then you admitting to not be roleblocked immediately turns the game into a TvT 1v1. At that point looking like you're going slow is where you wanna be, especially if scum had multiple blocks and blocked the spellcard.
Don’t get it.
Killing Marisa there due to player error when Marisa was either voting you or Reisen benefits you.
In post 5794, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
Don’t get it.
Killing Marisa there due to player error when Marisa was either voting you or Reisen benefits you.
Either people are bloodthirsty and the lim goes through fast without scum intervention in which case being off wagon is where you want to be
or people aren't bloodthirsty in which case you can't insta-force a lim through and being on wagon just looks bad
Blood thirstiness is not the gradient of choice in terms of figuring out who is scum.
Yes, there is some level of maneuvering/niche occupying.
But the level of risk taken in being in either of those positions isn’t paralyzing. For most scum.
Which returns me to the underlying point, it would have been risky to lead the wagon. But Marisa’s power changed the math there.
In post 5795, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
Either people are bloodthirsty and the lim goes through fast without scum intervention in which case being off wagon is where you want to be
or people aren't bloodthirsty in which case you can't insta-force a lim through and being on wagon just looks bad
Blood thirstiness is not the gradient of choice in terms of figuring out who is scum.
Yes, there is some level of maneuvering/niche occupying.
ok I'll break character for a second here.
In order to push through a speedlim there needs to be a culture?/party line?/general vibe? of anti-slowness. If there's not enough anti-slowness the speedlim doesn't go through, if there's enough anti-slowness the speedlim is inevitable. It's only in the inbetween that scum need to act to force the speedlim.
I'll go back to mechposting after this but readswise that threadstate is pretty much why Kagerou is near the bottom of my list there, especially cause she was advocating slowness to understand her actions but then never came back with the information from those actions
In post 5798, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
I'll go back to mechposting after this but readswise that threadstate is pretty much why Kagerou is near the bottom of my list there, especially cause she was advocating slowness to understand her actions but then never came back with the information from those actions
Like threadstate was extremely bloodthirsty yesterday; the people who couldn't shift into that bloodthirsty mindset are scum. They basically had like an hour to sense the bloodthirst and shift gears while town were just naturally bloodthirsty and willing to express it
