Mini 2331 - Touhou UPick: Anonymous Edition (Game Over)

[Yuuka Kazami]

Shit, why didn’t you immediately suspect Reisen of trying to bring you down with them when they said they made you self-target?

In addition, you seemed to want to kill Reisen first at the beginning of the day then shifted to Kagerou, why?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Shit, why didn’t you immediately suspect Reisen of trying to bring you down with them when they said they made you self-target?

I don't get how this'd be bringing me down?

In addition, you seemed to want to kill Reisen first at the beginning of the day then shifted to Kagerou, why?

This never happened? I've been pretty clear about wanting to kill Kagerou today

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Simple thing though...names can be different. See my passive.

I'm very specifically talking about flavor names otherwise I wouldn't be bringing up Flandre

[Yuuka Kazami]

I wanna look at if it makes sense for Dai to have been shot N2

Dai getting shot would validate the Yuuka scum + lying about spellcards/actives world, otherwise I think I want to vote Reisen here

[Yuuka Kazami]

Shit, why didn’t you immediately suspect Reisen of trying to bring you down with them when they said they made you self-target?

I don't get how this'd be bringing me down?

In addition, you seemed to want to kill Reisen first at the beginning of the day then shifted to Kagerou, why?

This never happened? I've been pretty clear about wanting to kill Kagerou today

It associates you with them and they would know your abilities while there’s always a small chance of things backfiring if they use their ability on someone they don’t 100% know the abilities of.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

It associates you with them and they would know your abilities while there’s always a small chance of things backfiring if they use their ability on someone they don’t 100% know the abilities of.

I literally fullclaimed after a supposed red check (The Dai coming back thing), if you think people continue to fakeclaim there we play some very different games

[Kaguya Houraisan]

I wanna look at if it makes sense for Dai to have been shot N2

Dai getting shot would validate the Yuuka scum + lying about spellcards/actives world, otherwise I think I want to vote Reisen here

Going into N2:
Dai townreaders:

1. Yuuka
   
2. Koishi
   
3. Clownpiece
   
4. Kaguya
   
5. Sanae

Dai haters:

1. Aya

More people probably expressed Dai reads but I'm phoneposting so looking up reads is hard. Dai was def townread enough to be shot N2 if Clownpiece/Aya/Koishi were considered off limits.
Clownpiece claimed charged commuter so would externally be off limits. Koishi claimed to only be able to swap the bound target once so that'd be a pretty obvious spellcard soft; might have been read as off limits by having extra effects which would also make Aya off limits?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Kaguya: if you’re town the scum team is exactly kagerou/Kaguya. Why are you going after Kagerou first?

Winning a 1v1 against Reisen in 3p is trivial, Kagerou not as much. You slaved your vote to Aya though so this gives me two chances with convincing Aya in 5p and then you in 3p

[Yuuka Kazami]

It associates you with them and they would know your abilities while there’s always a small chance of things backfiring if they use their ability on someone they don’t 100% know the abilities of.

I literally fullclaimed after a supposed red check (The Dai coming back thing), if you think people continue to fakeclaim there we play some very different games

I meant if you’re scum partners you won’t contradict them.

Yeah, I read your later reasoning. But why wasn’t that your reasoning coming into the day rather than your reasoning after saying you wanted to vote Reisen? Why was there a change, had you just not thought about who you wanted to fight off yet?

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Yeah, I read your later reasoning. But why wasn’t that your reasoning coming into the day rather than your reasoning after saying you wanted to vote Reisen? Why was there a change, had you just not thought about who you wanted to fight off yet?

Pretty much. It's a mindset shift of "Just vote for scum" to "How do I maximize the chances of both scum getting voted out this game"

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Like again, this is very much an alien way of playing for me; I sometimes forget the theme I had going for this game and post naturally instead

[Yuuka Kazami]

Honestly, at the current pace winning a 1v1 with kagerou would also be trivial.

I’m trying to say this and I want to say this again. I really, really, really want you to case Reisen and tell me why they’re scum or hell, I’ll take a revelation and Reisen is town and I’m scum with Kagerou over this.

[Yuuka Kazami]

It’s fucking unacceptable to me that “Reisen’s iso is fine, but not as fine as yours so they’re scum” in melo.

I’m sorry. I know it’s obnoxious. But it’s not something I can easily move past.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

It’s fucking unacceptable to me that “Reisen’s iso is fine, but not as fine as yours so they’re scum” in melo.

I’m sorry. I know it’s obnoxious. But it’s not something I can easily move past.

It's literally the case though? Like idk what to tell you, that's about as much as I can get from Reisen's ISO

[Yuuka Kazami]

*speechless*
Oh come on. They have 230 posts and a “tee hee I thought I was dead” comment.

Not to mention it’s weird that they’re probably the biggest actual touhou fan here and they’ve barely touched on the flavor.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Like the only real way that read's getting refined is with an extended livechat and I'm V/LA and she's never really around so I don't have high hopes of that happening

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

Honestly, at the current pace winning a 1v1 with kagerou would also be trivial.

I’m trying to say this and I want to say this again. I really, really, really want you to case Reisen and tell me why they’re scum or hell, I’ll take a revelation and Reisen is town and I’m scum with Kagerou over this.

I think EoD yesterday does this. It was a rushed lim that no one thought through to protect Riesen. The analysis was supposedly if Marisa voted, she'd control the lim. If we had the opportunity to think, we'd just leash her not to use it. She suspected Riesen.

If Marisa had suspected town, then letting her use it is not a problem as she dies in elo if wrong. If Marisa had suspected scum, then she couldn't dare vote.

If Marisa was scum, why randomly trade herself?

Scum definitely made that play.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Not to mention it’s weird that they’re probably the biggest actual touhou fan here and they’ve barely touched on the flavor.

Where's the touhou fan part

[Yuuka Kazami]

They’re probably a touhou fan.
That’s all I got.

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

Which is odd for Kagerou, a player who has allegedly viewed things through a strategic elimination not to pick up the proper play from both sides there.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

They’re probably a touhou fan.
That’s all I got.

I didn't pick up on that from her ISO so I'd prefer the posts you saw there

[Kagerou Imaizumi]

**Kaguya

Screw similar names

[Yuuka Kazami]

They’re probably a touhou fan.
That’s all I got.

I didn't pick up on that from her ISO so I'd prefer the posts you saw there

Can’t. Reasoning is behind the screen.

[Kaguya Houraisan]

*speechless*
Oh come on. They have 230 posts and a “tee hee I thought I was dead” comment.

Most of those posts were D1 where town was completely disfunctional, D2 onwards it's a ghosttown activity-wise

[Kaguya Houraisan]

Honestly, at the current pace winning a 1v1 with kagerou would also be trivial.

I’m trying to say this and I want to say this again. I really, really, really want you to case Reisen and tell me why they’re scum or hell, I’ll take a revelation and Reisen is town and I’m scum with Kagerou over this.

I think EoD yesterday does this. It was a rushed lim that no one thought through to protect Riesen. The analysis was supposedly if Marisa voted, she'd control the lim. If we had the opportunity to think, we'd just leash her not to use it. She suspected Riesen.

If Marisa had suspected town, then letting her use it is not a problem as she dies in elo if wrong. If Marisa had suspected scum, then she couldn't dare vote.

If Marisa was scum, why randomly trade herself?

Scum definitely made that play.

Which is odd for Kagerou, a player who has allegedly viewed things through a strategic elimination not to pick up the proper play from both sides there.

The problem with this line of thinking is that I spearheaded the speedlim so that'd imply I'm scum