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Post #2025 (isolation #400) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:36 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
In post 2020, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
I'm not discounting anything. Please don't take mafia personally. I will distance from your thread once you realize I'm just playing a game, and so are you.
You saying I’m taking things personally IS discounting me by insinuating I don’t have game reasons for my frustration with you.
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Post #2070 (isolation #408) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:31 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
In post 2068, StraightFlush wrote:
I’m extremely paranoid about ketchup rn so that might’ve been overreach. But what’s done is done, I’d love to do better mechsolving but two vanilla flips makes it hard
You wouldn’t listen to me when I was right and now I’m still being discounted. So I’m annoyed about it, yeah.
Where are you being discounted?
There’s no point in this argument. You and HEM can’t admit to being wrong and instead are dead set on voting the wagon because then it absolves your actions from D1 of all sus. And doing so means we ignore Purple which I don’t think we should be doing.
You wouldn’t listen to me when I was right and now I’m still being discounted. So I’m annoyed about it, yeah.
Where are you being discounted?
There’s no point in this argument. You and HEM can’t admit to being wrong and instead are dead set on voting the wagon because then it absolves your actions from D1 of all sus. And doing so means we ignore Purple which I don’t think we should be doing.
Do you think the whole wagon was town?
I don’t know but I’m not going to ignore the possibilities of scum being on or off. But to just claim scum HAS to be on the wagon is just weird. They both also claimed snivy was absolutely town so why are we trusting their reads so much?
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Post #2101 (isolation #414) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:56 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
How are you so certain it can’t be HEM? You’re assuming he was in the same boat you were but how can you be certain he wasn’t the one trying to build a resistance against his partner? He used “experience” logic to explain why he’s never do the things he did as scum but isn’t that possibly just a strategy? Saying he’d NEVER do that because he’s so smart and experienced just gives him a reason to do it so he could look town. Sounds like you’re biased because all 3 experienced players were parroting the same ideas and so you feel supported. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible for you to be played.
I’m not saying you need to say he’s scum and vote him but it’s weird you won’t even keep him as a possibility.
Sick of me trying to figure out who is scum? This is such a weird response. I’m clearly invested in this and only pushing back against those trying to close our options up into only a few players.
In post 2102, KayJayQueue wrote:
How are you so certain it can’t be HEM? You’re assuming he was in the same boat you were but how can you be certain he wasn’t the one trying to build a resistance against his partner? He used “experience” logic to explain why he’s never do the things he did as scum but isn’t that possibly just a strategy? Saying he’d NEVER do that because he’s so smart and experienced just gives him a reason to do it so he could look town. Sounds like you’re biased because all 3 experienced players were parroting the same ideas and so you feel supported. Doesn’t mean it’s impossible for you to be played.
I’m not saying you need to say he’s scum and vote him but it’s weird you won’t even keep him as a possibility.
It could be, I'm not pushing HEM because I don't believe he's a wolf. His logic through the end half of D1 was good to me. I acknowledged it, realised that he actually had decent points and then I couldn't not see what he was seeing (regarding the two snivy/purple specifically). I believe he's town because his mindset seems pure, I reciprocate a lot of the arguments he had used and from a particular point I didn't read as if he was trying to pull anybody along maliciously.
I said "never" as hyperbole to state my read on the situation, I thought you'd know how I play at this point but I guess not.
You say we're biased but by you saying that.. you realise you're discounting us?
I’m sorry that I read your hyperbole as genuine, it felt genuine. And by not seeming open to anyone else being an option, how is that not bias? Calling it out isn’t discounting you, it’s calling out bias. I’m just not to ready to eliminate half the players from being scum just because 2 people say so. And that’s what I felt was happening.
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Post #2115 (isolation #417) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:10 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
In post 2113, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Everybody is biased in their own way. That's the human experience. My read on it is based on my own logical analysis of the situation. If you thought I was trying to discount you based on me saying this, can I offer you a discussion about what i'm saying instead? Instead of throwing cease-and-desist notices on each others reads.
What part of my analysis on the resistance do you disagree with?
I disagree that there was no resistance to the skitter/snivy wagon. I disagree that no one was pushing back. I disagree that your analysis means scum was 100% on the wagon.
Sick of me trying to figure out who is scum? This is such a weird response. I’m clearly invested in this and only pushing back against those trying to close our options up into only a few players.
This isn’t scumhunting, it’s petty bickering bullshit and it’s giving me a migraine. Stop trying to meta POV-check people and making up reasons to get offended by everything from Jackson/HEM. It’s blatantly anti-town at this point
I’m not anti-town at all. I was trying to stop a wagon on you but if that’s anti-town I guess that means your scum and I should vote you. See how silly that sounds? I just want a discussion where everyone discusses all the options. And some people are making that hard.
And I don’t know what meta-POV check means so if I’m doing something, it’s unintentional.
If the consensus is on-wagon, I know it’s not me. I was fighting a losing battle asking people to still consider purple so this has to be our next move.
If the consensus is on-wagon, I know it’s not me. I was fighting a losing battle asking people to still consider purple so this has to be our next move.
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Post #2137 (isolation #424) » Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:57 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
I think over the course of the entire game, Zach has added the least amount of game-solving content. Not sure if it means anything, but I have a theory. Does anyone have anything to add about Zach? If flush ends up flipping town? I’m assuming everyone will still be set in this wagon idea which would mean we look at Zach, ketchup and myself next. Why not just discuss that now?
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Post #2235 (isolation #437) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:07 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
If it was a bus, there are only 4 possible candidates and purple isn’t one of them. I was originally voting purple but was told the wagon was a bus which means we aren’t voting purple, HEM or Jack. This leaves 3 people for me to vote, same with the rest of those that voted Snivy. Now I find it pretty hard to believe that you guys would think that me trying to push that lim for over a week could possibly put me as a viable scum partner to Snivy. I was against the slot pretty much the entire game. I’d appreciate someone to make an actual case against me so I can prove myself. Because we’re not making much progress.
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Post #2251 (isolation #440) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:32 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
Well I preferred your claim but ketchup couldn’t commit. I’m not scum I’m just trying to solve this damn game and since I’ve been forced into a pool of you, Zach and ketchup, it’s not much to go on. And nothing is happening. And I have a feeling we’re just going to mislim and get no info out of it. Jack is more sure it’s you so I’d rather vote you since I don’t have as strong of a read. And I still sus purple.
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Post #2277 (isolation #441) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:57 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
Okay I’m thoroughly confused. I got snivy, I guess you guys can figure out the partner. If you’re wrong and I’m alive day 3, maybe things will make sense. But as it stands, I townread ketchup all game so I’m obviously pocketed or blind if that’s the solve.
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Post #2288 (isolation #442) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:14 pm
Postby KayJayQueue »
While we’re waiting for ketchup, can someone explain to me why purple not voting D1 removed him from the sus list? I don’t understand why only the wagon is sus and why it HAD to be a bus. I just need to understand this before I can move on from purple.
In post 2289, KayJayQueue wrote:
While we’re waiting for ketchup, can someone explain to me why purple not voting D1 removed him from the sus list? I don’t understand why only the wagon is sus and why it HAD to be a bus. I just need to understand this before I can move on from purple.
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Post #2418 (isolation #455) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:54 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
Wow what a ridiculous ultimatum which you’re freely admitting is pretty much going to result in a town elimination. Did I push you at all yesterday once everyone’s opinions were stated? No. I concentrated on the wagon/bus. Even then, the only person off the wagon I was continuously mentioning was purple because I didn’t know he was cleared like others did. So to insinuate I can’t be objective is pretty condescending. I’m not tunneled on you and I don’t think limming town is the play here.
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Post #2463 (isolation #457) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:48 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
Yes, I thought it was implied. Ketchup said he made up that claim because he knew purple was clear and that could only happen if he’s telling the truth. The green flip confirmed to me that purple and Jack were the 2 non-vanilla town. So why would anyone be worried about a doctor?
Can you reasonably rule out Zach here from your pov's given the logic HEM and I spoke about?
No I can’t rule out Zach because if you cleared HEM, it has to be either Zach or Flush. I don’t want to assume anything about why they killed purple or if it was a mistake or some deeper strategy. It’s one of them and we will win if we vote them both out. I don’t think I NEED to rule out Zach in this position and doing so would be shortsighted on my part even if it “makes sense” that it wouldn’t be him. Nothing’s certain until you get actual confirmation. Which you got on HEM. And I know I’m town.
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Post #2478 (isolation #459) » Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:19 am
Postby KayJayQueue »
Maybe we look at Day 1 instead. Why would I cripple myself by tunneling on skitter Day ONE? I had no idea what PRs are in play and what? The theory is I think I’m good enough to solo a game without knowing what town is working with which could’ve lost here game day 2? Tell me how that makes sense. Go read any game of mine, scum or town. I am not a confident player. I’m stubborn but not confident. There’s no way I’d willingly choose to get rid of my partner like that. I’m town and I happened to be right about skitter because of a meta read on halfasleep I didn’t want to let go of.
