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VOTE: Brian Skies

Okay what i supposed to do?

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VOTE: Brian Skies

Okay what i supposed to do?

Your question and your action seem contradictory. Enlighten us as to your intent here.

I have no idea what i did why i did

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But i think it's right

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VOTE: Brian Skies

Okay what i supposed to do?

Your question and your action seem contradictory. Enlighten us as to your intent here.

I have no idea what i did why i did

How much of the game have you read so far?

Last page

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And player list iofc

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VOTE: Hu Tao

Can't go wrong with that

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Huh we are not in rvs?

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Who the hell is Emchant

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Besides if "bad" players were replaced with "good" players always, it would be advantage to bully "bad" player out of game.


I don't think it's fair.

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I’m not calling you bad, nor am I calling Nurse good. I simply don’t get the sense that you have anything to contribute on account of your late arrival. Prove me wrong and my vote will go back to where it was.

Hahaha.

I like you.

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Why you hate siding with other people scumread?

What your own opinion?

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I don't think i can seriously consider opinion of player who avoids taking sides due "WHAT IF I LOOK PARTNERED"

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I don't think i can seriously consider opinion of player who avoids taking sides due "WHAT IF I LOOK PARTNERED"

Based on my incredible sample size of two incomplete games, this is kind of a playstyle quirk for her.

what incomplete games...

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Yet you don't have your own opinion on slot (which i asked)

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Yes.

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I think from my initial response to you, you can see how I interpreted your post and question.

Anyway, if you’d have been reading since you repped in, you’d see I literally answered that question in 893. It’s not like I’m hiding my reads or not committing whatever you’re trying to insinuate.

And you doing nothing

Lmaoooo

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VOTE: kayjay

No.

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That vote means literally nothing coming from someone who refuses to even read the game of a slot he repped into.

That's best part.


I don't care what you or anyone else thinks about my vote. Because it's my vote.


Explaining inaction by fear of being associated or claiming to be neutral is biggest eh and easiest way to hide.

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If you say so.

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Are you gonna claim, StraightFlush?

I will neither confirm nor deny my willingness to claim for the time being.

Oh. Okay.

VOTE: StraightFlush

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VOTE: Yessire

I don't care about your claim for real.

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Blatant bus

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Blatant bus

Who was bussing?

Mafia.


Too easy.

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Well thats just a terrible vote

Terrible post.

Terrible game.

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I probably should take it somewhat seriously, as i said, i think it was bus.

When i get less lazy i compare wagons. Or you may do it for me. Vote count analysis never entertained me.

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I probably should take it somewhat seriously, as i said, i think it was bus.

When i get less lazy i compare wagons. Or you may do it for me. Vote count analysis never entertained me.

If it was a bus that means it’s Titus, Hu, and/or you that was possibly bussing. From those options, what do you think is most likely?

As i said need to compare who voted...

Who we eliminated at previous previous day i forgot?

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Ah yes flush okay

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3.2

yessiree (5) :

KayJayQueue / Political Clout / Hu Tao / Titus / Enchant

Execution !

Enchant (1) :

yessiree

Not Voting (3) :

PenguinPower / BlackStar / Brian Skies

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to execute someone, day 3 ends in (expired on 2024-04-13 06:25:46)

vote history

yessiree :

Enchant (980)

KayJayQueue :

yessiree (983)

Political Clout :

yessiree (987)

Hu Tao :

yessiree (994)

Titus :

yessiree (996)

Enchant :

yessiree (1003)

mod notes

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2.5

I really need to get better a doing flavor like wow i'm so bad at this

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StraightFlush (6) :

BlackStar / PenguinPower / yessiree / Titus / Brian Skies / Enchant

[Execution !]

yessiree (3)

Hu Tao / Political Clout / KayJayQueue

Titus (1) :

JacksonVirgo

Enchant (1) :

StraightFlush

Not Voting (0) :

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to execute someone, day 2 ends in (expired on 2024-04-04 04:20:49)

vote history

PenguinPower :

yessiree (568) -> StraightFlush (648)

blackstar :

PenguinPower (571) -> StraightFlush (647)

Hu Tao :

yessiree (581)

KayJayQueue :

Titus (588) -> yessiree (599) -> JacksonVirgo (854) -> yessiree (879)

Political Clout :

yessiree (597)

StraightFlush :

BlackStar (611) -> Enchant (910)

yessiree :

StraightFlush (668)

JacksonVirgo :

KayJayQueue (680) -> Titus (694) -> StraightFlush (738) -> Titus (739)

Titus :

yessiree (697) -> StraightFlush (866)

Brian Skies :

Titus (828) -> StraightFlush (942)

Enchant :

Brian Skies (859) -> Hu Tao (906) -> KayJayQueue (934) -> StraightFlush (970)

mod notes

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Do you see what i see

Completetly different people.

Well expect for me.

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Who is Titus

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I am literally tired can i sleep

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No-no wait, hold on.

You slipped and writed player who was confirmed as not vanilla, as vanilla, some player noticed it and made theory that you are mafia who made up this claim quickly, and your way is to insult this player because obviously you had things irl?

If you are town, that player could be mafia making accusation on you. And you still insulted them for doing th... Ah why i am talking, i guess it's normal at this point. Let's insult and be angry at everyone who suspect you.

It probably just points at Penguin being mafia, who knows Jey is town. Vanilla Cop is pretty average claim.

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VOTE: PenguinPower

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I think replacement rules are bad. And let's leave it at this point,

okay

?

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I wanted to wait for her to show up, but I guess I might as well do it now. I roleblocked Titus last night.

VOTE: Titus

I think you should claim

What you did other nights

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Popcorn to Brian Skies.

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Last pr shouldnt even claim. I'm assuming it's you or Titus though. I guess if Brian is the PR that changes things. But I think Brian is just scum.

PR should claim if exist. Thanks.

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I know Enchant won't vote yet, so no reason to ask him.

You know that without my vote you only able to bus/vote out town?

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Imo, if everyone agree that black is 100% mafia (which i fail to see rn, i mean, actions too outrageous, mafia mostly should know better) and other PR shouldn't even claim, then rushing vote is still anti-town, for obvious reason.

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I guess I should just follow my gut 100% the next time I'm a PR instead of trying to figure out who the town would want me to target the most. I can see how this looks confusing

You just have to do what feels best to you. If you have strong reads, go with your gut and try to PoE the rest.

Unless you are vigilante

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My statement: Hu Tao is never VT in this game.

So why hide anyway?

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I don’t think we have 2 role blockers (1 town, 1 scum)

Isn’t it more likely it’s a scum role blocker and a town jail keeper? If Penguin or I were jailkept the night he checked me, he wouldnt’t get anything, right?

You misunderstood how Jailkeeper works.

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Yeah that sounds about right. Damn. I still think the claim isn’t on the level.

Mafia Jailkeepers is not uncommon.


Why you don't like claim?

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Interesting?

Anyway. Why did yall rush that at the end after he claimed?

His anger at KJQ didn’t seem fake. And you could’ve waited to see how the replacement acted

I agree waiting for the replacement was optimal but whatever. So his results were enchant vanilla and was blocked when targeting Kay

or Kay is some kind of ascetic.

Correct?

I agree waiting for the replacement was optimal but whatever. So his results were enchant vanilla and was blocked when targeting Kay

or Kay is some kind of ascetic

. Correct?

Yeah

I think we should just wait for everyone to post, it's possible we have a role blocker who blocked scum, they should just claim if so

I wanted to wait for her to show up, but I guess I might as well do it now. I roleblocked Titus last night.

VOTE: Titus

I think you should claim

Hmmm.

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Did you leave crumbs or something from which we would figure out who you targeted?

I could search but i am bad about it.

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That's question to both btw

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Spoiler: I skimmed ISO huh

Hmm. I have no gut reads so far

Let's lim Hu Tao

Edit: @Nurse, you were correct to infer that I was eager to get some wagons going, but the rest was stretching it

Because I have no reads?

VOTE: Hu Tao

why so defensive

Holy projection

VOTE: yessireee

Couldn't explain so they got defensive

Straightflush/yessireee prob has at least 1 scum

VOTE: Straightflush

VOTE: yessiree

Why not? I've scumread them since day 1

I see sense in Hu Tao actions imo.

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Spoiler: BlackStar Iso

personal pet peeve but could yall put giant quote walls in a spoiler

ty ty

Sorry how do you do that?

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between them

i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, but

part of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved

. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc

Can you post that game?

Conclusion: I don't think Brian's PC read is real. I feel like if they were voting PC for AI behavior specifically, they'd have been more likely to allude to that at some point before their argument, and their interaction with PC before they stated the reason they voted there doesn't feel like it was approached in the manner I'd expect if they harbored a preexisting scumlean/scumread of the slot. This feels like it's a justification made in post in response to PC pressuring them to me.

interesting cause thats how i feel about PC in that whole back and forth between them

i think we just have fundamental differences in what we consider scummy/townie, but

part of my townraed on brian also comes from the last game so theres a bit of meta involved

. Things like being confrontational and assertive early on, being critical of the gamestate as time goes on, etc

Can you post that game?

viewtopic.php?t=92350

Thanks. I’ll look over it

1.10

Sorry for the recent lack of flavor, life events have been happening

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greeting (7) :

Titus / StraightFlush / BlackStar / PenguinPower / Davesaz / SmileyDude1 / yessiree

Political Clout (2) :

Brian Skies / yessiree

Brian Skies (1) :

Political Clout

Random Nurse (1) :

Greeting

StraightFlush (1) :

Hu Tao

Titus (1) :

KayJayQueue

Not Voting (1) :

Random Nurse

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to execute someone, day 1 ends in (expired on 2024-03-25 13:02:46)

vote history

PenguinPower :

yessiree (8) -> Brian Skies (29) -> Random Nurse (118) -> Political Clout (284) -> KayJayQueue (405) -> Random Nurse (415) -> Greeting (495)

yessiree :

PenguinPower (9) -> Political Clout (82) -> Hu Tao (121) -> Political Clout (316) -> Greeting (547)

Davesaz :

greeting (13) -> Political Clout (76) -> Greeting (523)

BlackStar :

Political Clout (18) -> Unvote(52) -> Random Nurse (90) -> Brian Skies (250) -> Greeting (492)

KayJayQueue :

Brian Skies (22) -> Titus (95) -> Brian Skies (271) -> Titus (540)

Political Clout :

Politicial Clout (26) -> Brian Skies (151)

SmileyDude1 :

Brian Skies (27) -> Unvote (91) -> Davesaz (92) -> Unvote (256) -> Brian Skies (269) -> Greeting (490) -> Unvote (527) -> Greeting (538)

Greeting :

BlackStar (70) -> Unvote (332) -> Random Nurse (335)

Brian Skies :

Political Clout (83)

TItus :

Random Nurse (94) -> Political Clout (285) -> Greeting (422)

StraightFlush :

yessiree (124) -> Brian Skies (216) -> Unvote (400) -> Greeting (491)

Hu Tao :

yessiree (128) -> Brian Skies (419) -> Unvote (420) -> StraightFlush (421)

mod notes

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You have yessiree listed as voting for both Greeting and Political Clout

i mean - sure. doesn't change the fact that this is your progression and it was a bad end to the day:

the speed of the Greeting wagon makes me think he's probably not scum here

Aight, Greeting can go ahead and claim

VOTE: Greeting

let's just get this over with

would rather not let apathy linger

This does seem like a really quick turnaround

And I'd do it agane!!

Why?

Town

Brian Skies
KayJayQueue
PenguinPower
Random Nurse
BlackStar
davesaz
Titus
StraightFlush
Political Clout
Hu Tao

Scum

Anyway, where my head is at. I'm ok with limming any 1 of the bottom 3

Why is BrianSkies so high up?

I have a theory about something, but I don’t have much confidence right now because I was so wrong before

If it’s not something that might out an asset to the town, I’d love to hear the theory. Sometimes 3 heads on a thought are better than 1. Anything could be helpful, even if we end up deciding it’s not correct. It still eliminates a possibility, you know?

Well, JacksonVirgo made multiple posts where he expressed suspicion of Hu Tao. And now he’s been killed. So I can’t help wondering if he was onto something and Hu Tao wanted to shut him up.

That’s pretty flimsy though

Aldo why bring me up and not the person he was actually voting? Sus

I town read Titus. I’m unsure about you

It doesn't seem like you're paying attention...

I feel like I'm second-guessing my opinions on everyone nonstop. Right now the only person who I'm confident is town is KayKayQueue. Why does it have to be so hard to read people? lol

Talk with yessire more casual than anything. Don't think it looks bad it's just normal.

Had only one strong townread and it's newbie.

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If BlackStar mafia, he is clearly not Roleblocker, due nature of claimed actions.
If Hu Tao mafia, she clearly not Rolestopper (but she DOES have some ability to stop actions. Maybe Alien: Same utility but more scummy to claim).


I think about it hold on

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VOTE: blackstar

Who is going to be the first to vote scum

You.

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As you remember, you told BlackStar at start of day that penguin was blocked


So Blackstar on purpose didn't steal it you say?

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Idk

It's analog of Doctor. If possible i also would try to get you killed without claiming in her place.


I think it's more reason to TRUST Hu Tao, because she actually doesn't want to eat bullet, which protective realistically wouldn't want to do.


Meh. I am hammering BlackJack ofc.

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Also this Hu Tao message makes no sense, i have no clue why she made it, yet still looks better

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She did though

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Besides you also didn't claim instantly.

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Honestly only thing at your side is my pure no understanding of your motivation as mafia member to act like that.

Besides you also didn't claim instantly.

I wanted Titus to post before I confronted her but decided there was no point in waiting

Post what.

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I don't think answering that benefits town.

If BlackStar mafia, Hu Tao died. Then we forced to no-lim.

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PR hunt probably.

Hu Tao theory about mafia trying to claim guilty on roleblocker makes sense.

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I have another question, if we believe Hu Tao that Titus was supposed to be the kill. What do you think the reasoning for that kill is? Did everyone think Titus was for sure town? I know I didn’t.

I expected you to die. But couldn't target you.

Indecisive?

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Doesn't it in fact contradict what you just said?

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Kay, I think they are just hoping that since you're new that you'll vote Titus today. I know you're probably scumreading Titus based on activity, but that's not how to read her. You need to read her posts and see if they make sense to you. Like why she's doing what she did

Strange appeal.

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lmao xd

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I like to watch them argue looonger.

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I’m not the final authority

I have, however, played a shit ton of games and have a pretty good idea of how scum acts in this situation versus how town acts

Ok.

BlackStar teammate?

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Okay, then there's no point talking.

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VOTE: BlackStar

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Do you want to say BlackStar truthfully roleblocked Ydrasse?

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also @Hu Tao you should claim who you are going to role stop before the day ends

it forces scum to either no-kill or clear someone

Do you have SMALLEST idea what rolestop does.

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Wait i meant yessire

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Bruhhhhhh

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I mean maybe Hu Tao should still say in case she is alien fakeclaiming but if Hu Tao is alien fakeclaiming, we just lost game so whatever

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Free consultation.

Roleblocker blocks target.
Jail keeper blocks target and killing actions on target.
Alien roleblocks target and all actions on target.
Rolestopper roleblocks all actions on target.

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Yes, basically.

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Jail keeper

blocks

target and killing actions on target.

Yea.
It only blocks KILLS on target though.

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So anyway, decision final, it's kinda blatant atp. Vote Black then no-lim, then figure this out i guess.

That's it, gn.

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Yeah i am not stopping you.

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Dumbtell competition.

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Hey remember when i said gn?

Forget it i have insomnia again.

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I just feel so tired of repeating myself at this point. The two of you couldn't be more obviously scum but the town is shooting the messenger for some reason. It's beyond frustrating

I’ve been very openly trying to sort everything out, but I’m not getting anywhere.

What problem you have exactly

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Fun fact: Dead players words are forgotten in 99% cases.

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One.

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VOTE: blackstar

UNVOTE:

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Dunn never voted.

What the fuck is gg

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This is character Hu Tao from game Genshin Impact

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If game is over then game is over.

If game is not over then i have next day to complain.


And no i hate Genshin Impact

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So you are scum roleblocker?

I think it would be more suspicious for gamestate if Black was roleblocker.

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Can you vote fastnight?

I mean. Yeah.

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VOTE: No Elim

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Interesting. That makes my vote easier.

Any questions to me?

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I feel like it’d be crazy to have 3 goons and you’d have to be a goon. I think I’m voting Brian.


Questions for me?

Yea.


How long you play mafia for real?

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By the way i want both to answer if you voted for fast night or not.

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VOTE: Brian Skies


Yeah.
3 Goons.

Sorry.

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Blame mod

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Who the hell is Enchonker

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I find vote tracker bad because it really shows mod is trying to help town faction with information.

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Mod should be unbiased btw.

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Yeah so, a few points i would like to receive for feedback

- Obviously, the 3 goons, it definetly seemed like people were not expecting it, was it more of a failure on my part to not predict players would be used to the mafia having at least 1 PR, or was it something about the setup being too townsided for a 3 goons team, ironically giving them the win?

- Did anyone ever find use in the votes tracker associated to the votecounts? Should i do it again?

- And once again, Gypyx with failing to do flavor, i'd like any tips people have with that cause there's definetly something wrong with how i'm organized (ok and maybe going to the hospital in the middle of modding this game wasn't helping)

I thought it was really town sided, but I guess people not expecting 3 goons kind of balanced things out

yeah, i maybe overtuned it during the review process, here's what it was originally :

Town Indecisive Rolestopper
Town Vanilla Cop
Town Lazy Reporter
Town 1-Shot Universal Backup
6 VT

Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon

WAIT SO YOU PROPOSED IT AND PEOPLE LIKE "HMM WE THINK IT"S SCUMSIDED BUFF TOWN MORE"?