Large Normal 247 - Day 5

[Alianna]

4.05

Votecount 4.05

KayJayQueue (1): Enchant
geraintm (1): Lycanfire

Not Voting (7): Random Nurse, Oblivion, geraintm, Thomith, Psyche, Gypyx, KayJayQueue

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-29 13:51:06).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Gypyx]

set up spec isn't my bag at all. im still trying to work out if we are playing vs 3 or 4 and so if the showdown with gypyx & thom needs to happen sooner rather than later. i think they need to be tested at some point - i don't especially want to get into the end game vs them.

my gut says they are town, i've been assuming they are town, but i don't think we lose too much in killing one at some point.

they have to recognise that the rest of us have to doubt them and cannot give them a free pass the rest of the game.

I think they are not killed because they are threat for town, not mafia.

im not sure what this means - threat to town? you think they are straight up scum??

If you kill one of us, you are killing both of us.
it's not a "test it and let the other live", it's if you kill one of us, the other immediately gets killed at night

You're a neighbour. If we kill one of you the other one has a whole night to put all their final thoughts into a place where the last neighbour can post them for you.

*hits blunt*

that post is so bad actually in an oblivion / enchant scum team

[Gypyx]

i'm a beliver

[Lycanfire]

I feel like there's potential for a bias if one person has interactions with someone and somebody doesn't have any at all.

Have you looked at this angle?

[Gypyx]

could you be more specific?

[Lycanfire]

I don't have a clear sus on that. I'll give the entire game a reread.

[Alianna]

Oblivion and Thomith are being prodded.

[Oblivion]

Apologies.

[Thomith]

Hello, plan to read through things properly after work this evening.

Can't shake the feeling Enchant may be town that tried to bait me/gypyx in the hood, so not 100% sure i want to go there today .

[Gypyx]

Yeah idk, Enchant is playing weird so it's making it hard for me to get a correct read on them

[Psyche]

maybe we consider step my step
which pairs are reasonably plausible under your current understanding of the game?

[Gypyx]

Oh god that's a lot of work to do

[Psyche]

maybe just a first draft guess without doing further research or reflection. if something's ambiguous just leave it. can gradually refine from there.

[Gypyx]

i'll do it when i get on my PC

[Enchant]

Yeah idk, Enchant is playing weird so it's making it hard for me to get a correct read on them

If i always playing weird then my play is in fact normal

[Enchant]

I skimmed game.

I guess we can call it "Read the game".


ANY QUESTIONS TO ME?

[Psyche]

still a rather reactive presence

[geraintm]

If you look at his posts they is doing very little to push Ranger, especially after replacement.

How do you feel about how they interacted with the only flipped scum?

I'll look tomorrow

VOTE: Naerys
can u just vote me out i dont wanna read Rangers posts anymore

Can you just vote ranger

I suspect there's a very specific reason why you want us to vote Ranger?

If Ranger turns out to be Town I'll be coming for you.

VOTE: Ranger

so, that was their vote.

I have the sneaking suspicion that should Ranger flip Town I'll be the convenient scapegoat.

they later posted this after the claim from Ranger
so yeah, there wasn't much of a push at all.
but i stand by thinking they are town with that vote on ranger. if they were both scum, i would have expected their vote to come off (even just as a response to the claim with an UNVOTE: saying they are going to reevaluate everything) but they made no effort to.

[Psyche]

I'm actually kind of more ok than before with going enchant. Not sure how much more okay, but I'm definitely moving in opposite direction than others here.

overall i don't find this act all that persuasive. #2940 nor the vote for kay really give vibe of "this person is trying to sort/solve the game they very recently made the active decision to start playing". feels like best reason to townread it is the suspicion that scum might exert more to give precisely that vibe, but that sort of WIFOM is potentially what motivates this style. i've definitely played that angle as scum before.

just generally feel like someone who'd skimmed the game would take a more active stance than "ok does anyone have questions for me"

[Enchant]

Your persuasion is useless if i am only player who so far has placed vote.

[Enchant]

No really everyone else not voting.


Too much for "having opinion about gamestate", eh?

[Psyche]

so you're unsure about everything too?

[Enchant]

so you're unsure about everything too?

Why you are not voting me still if you want it so much

[Psyche]

want what

[Enchant]

VOTE: Psyche