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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 3:24 am

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In post 1795, Save The Dragons wrote:what if i just naturally discovered the dethy thing slowly in the hood and people in there are tring me for that
I didn’t get to see the whole thing with my own crabby eyes, so as far as I’m concerned, that doesn’t exist.

You mentioned you would happily vote anyone you’re not townreading, and you don’t want to eliminate inside the hood today. Is it purely for mechanical reason? Also, how is your town list looking like at the moment?

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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 3:26 am

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subject to change

would vote
Firebringer
Brian Skies
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 3:28 am

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In post 1800, Hermit Crab wrote:
In post 1795, Save The Dragons wrote:what if i just naturally discovered the dethy thing slowly in the hood and people in there are tring me for that
I didn’t get to see the whole thing with my own crabby eyes, so as far as I’m concerned, that doesn’t exist.
this seems like a fallacy to assume that i pandered to my hood because you can't see but to not assume that i naturally discovered the dethy mechanic with everyone else because you can't see
In post 1800, Hermit Crab wrote: You mentioned you would happily vote anyone you’re not townreading, and you don’t want to eliminate inside the hood today. Is it purely for mechanical reason? Also, how is your town list looking like at the moment?

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not voting in the hood is purely mechanical as i mentioned earlier

well you're in luck because i just cross posted it
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 3:47 am

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In post 1769, Spiffeh wrote: @Luke can you unpack your Shello townread for me? What am I missing?
I would say that of the 10 people I listed as being on the town spectrum, Ydra is the weakest read, so I am not really at a point of trying to convince anyone of the read.

But I did like her approach and interaction with me. Her suspicion on me, when they came, were reasonable, and her direct interaction with me did not feel like it had an agenda, and her change in read felt natural, especially because her change in read was first stated in thread when it would have benefited scum!yrda from feeding into your own suspicions of me.
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 3:54 am

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In post 1766, Shello and Goodbye wrote: Luke pinged me, need to explore -> i think for a while when i was skimming i thought he was in the sunflower hydra and was getting them confused so i think i need to reread this

Things i want to further explore/read closer:
~ how marci revealed the hood
~luke iso
In post 1772, Shello and Goodbye wrote: I'm kinda underwhelmed by luke i think

~ skitter
In post 1789, Shello and Goodbye wrote: Luke's also quite townie
Hi Skitter!

Want to walk me through your process on reading me?

What did you read that led you to say that you were underwhelmed by me? Give the first quote, I had assumed you did an iso on me, but given the 3rd quote it seems like you did not see 1019 until later?
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:03 am

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I kind of skim-read the whole game last night but didn't read everything and my impression after that was ~underwhelmed (part of which i think is because i thought you were in the sunflower hydra and was confused abt some of the things you were saying)

The first post was after that read

I read again more thoroughly this morning and saw 1019 which i thought was quite townie, i don't think i saw it the first time. I'm still kind of underwhelmed with your solving, but i don't think that post comes from scum

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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:03 am

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I'm contemplating votibg firebringer or spiffeh

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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:31 am

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So at the time of writing 1772, you were at "underwhelmed, but still leaning town" ?
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:41 am

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In post 1806, Shello and Goodbye wrote: I'm contemplating votibg firebringer or spiffeh

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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:41 am

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No, just underwhelmed , had written it at the start of the reread / before I saw 1019

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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 4:42 am

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Spiffeh can you talk a bit more abt your read on ydra / my slot please?

Also firebringer?

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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:00 am

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Luke what time will you be avaliable at? I wanna chat <3
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:04 am

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In post 1809, Shello and Goodbye wrote: No, just underwhelmed , had written it at the start of the reread / before I saw 1019

@ luke

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I was kinda balking at seeing myself listed as "is pinging me" followed by "underwhelming," but then came to mind when asked
In post 1782, Hermit Crab wrote: I’m also curious if you could unpack your other townreads
But this is a reasonable enough explanation, and looking back it after you said this, it kind of tracks with the greater context of the post where you called me underwhelming
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:04 am

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In post 1811, marcistar wrote: Luke what time will you be avaliable at? I wanna chat <3
I'm around, whats up bestie?
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:05 am

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In post 1810, Shello and Goodbye wrote: Spiffeh can you talk a bit more abt your read on ydra / my slot please?

Also firebringer?

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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:06 am

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@skitter

On mobile so I’m quoting what I’ve posted already. If you have specific questions feel free to ask.

Spoiler: Thoughts on Shello and Goodbye and Firebringer
In post 1463, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 1411, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1288, Spiffeh wrote: I have thoughts regarding Firebringer that I'm sitting on for the moment. I am eager for his promised rereads/effort today.
Ohh damn. Someone is going to make me keep my word. This is truly the end times.

I want to reread you but if i was going to give a general idea of why i think u could be scum is you seem more blendy. (I know very generic). I guess ur take that got u heat for me being scum was something, but i don't see why people would push back on that. Ive been given too easy townreads by quite a few and most people give me townreads just to annoy or meme on me.

When i reread u though the things i want to keep in mind is how u interact with a few key people because i think scum you is going to be more hesitant...or neutral in interactions. Whereas i think town u might be more working with/trying to colaborate. Idk if you think this makes sense as ur scum vs town self, i think scum you tries to look engaged where town you is actually trying to work with players to keep engaged.
Where did I get heat for my "scum read" on you? Hermit Crab poked at me about it in the hood but it wasn't the crux of any scum reads on me from what I recall.

Spoiler: self meta
I think most of this is fairly accurate. As Town I typically focus more on identifying other Town players I work well with and I rely on them to bounce opinions off and keep my tunnely, OMGUSy nature at bay. As scum I am more concerned with meeting expectations and make a lot of pushes that look good on the surface while giving myself an out (similar to what I pointed out about Ydrasse earlier, actually) so I can avoid blame for the miselimination or I can drop the read on a dime if it no longer serves me.


Outside of me (?) do you have any scum reads?

I am hesitant with you because you have not yet struck the balance between troll!bringer and content!bringer that I have come to expect from your Town game. In Kemusan on Day 1, you were shooting the shit like usual but also had a very confident scum read on ffery that you were pushing at every opportunity. I'm not all that impressed with any of your game-related posts yet.

I also think that I am typically someone you focus on and try to sort pretty early, and you've barely mentioned or engaged me whatsoever. So it's off to me that the first time you've mentioned me in a serious way was "scum Spiffeh is an interesting take" as if this was never a consideration for you when I feel like I am usually guilty until proven innocent for you. My immediate thought when reading that post was that you were scared to ruffle my feathers or address me head on in the event that I had a negative reaction to it.
In post 471, Spiffeh wrote: There's a hard-to-describe timidity to a lot of Ydrasse's posts that rubs me the wrong way and feels different from her brief stint that I observed in Kemusan. To be fair, she was IC in Kemusan and also didn't end up posting much, but the way she presented herself felt more confident and less wishy-washy. See the bolded in the below quotes for examples:
In post 194, Shello and Goodbye wrote: i don’t really like luke’s intro and posts on 5-6
idk why i haven’t played with him for a while so it could be that but
they feel off to the vibes of the thread
In post 229, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
while it was not the pinnacle of a towncase
i think i want to rescind my firebagel read looking back at the earlier parts of the game i feel like she was trying a bit too hard to fit in with the Whimsy and Wonder RVS squad.
i'm not sure if this matters as much
for a gimmicky account because like yeah youre gonna want to interact with the people who inspired you but meh
In post 325, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
it's goofy but
dan doesn't strike me as the type of person to throw that in willy nilly as a wolf idk. he seems like he would be more preoccupied with being Serious (<- has seen one game of dan and it was a town game)
The rest of my Ydrasse meta is like four years old but I recall her being OVERLY confident in previous games and here she's playing a little too scared for my liking.

Anyone want to enlighten me on why they are town reading Ydrasse?

PEdit: that is a good vote from Ydrasse though, she's already winning me over!

I have only skimmed the last 10-15 pages or so.
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:09 am

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In post 1813, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 1811, marcistar wrote: Luke what time will you be avaliable at? I wanna chat <3
I'm around, whats up bestie?
Aww. I just qanted to havw a general chat with you. Im at work right now so its pretty hard?

Is there anything you want to talk abt specifically? I know most of the topics i would br8ng up would be abt my hood so idk if that interests you.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:11 am

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If you'd rather schedule a real time chat for when you are not working, I'm down for that too.
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:13 am

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I was kinda curious about you saying that you liked my wall post.

Like I read it as a "I think that it looks townie"

But I am curious what you think about the actual substance of it.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:15 am

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Which wall post again sorey i forgot.

(I would prefer a scheduleing but just having your attention rn works too, but i may dip out eventually)
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:15 am

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And that can be open to other people, because I dont think a single person has engaged with the substance of it. >.<
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:15 am

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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:16 am

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Opening our chat to other people :evil: :evil:
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:20 am

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I also agree with whomever said that penguin power not materially engaging with the game is scummy

I'm used to him being more in the background as town and building wagons, but this feels like an imitation of that
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 5:24 am

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I don't think it's scummy for penguin power to not be materially engaging in a game that's spawned 70+ pages in 3 days

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