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Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:44 pm

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In post 2084, morph the cat wrote: My main impression of Firebagel, besides liking their cheekiness, is that in this playerlist they give me LHF feels. I have an alt guess, but I haven't actually played a game with the player I'm thinking of so I'm not putting much stock in it, other than to note that if I'm right I wouldn't can that player LHF
What resulted in bagel getting above the line in your reads list?
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Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:45 pm

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It looks like its past time for me to look back at the klick+sunflower convo
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Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:47 pm

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In post 2099, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1253, Sunflower wrote: idk i still think shell game means that there's a power to swap people in and out of the hoods

:blossom:
In post 1724, Bingle wrote:
In post 1721, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1720, Bingle wrote: Warm pup might also be scum, btw.
VOTE MEEEEEEEE
I lose my ability to rearrange hoods if I vote, which will make my wincon of making the alignments of living players in the hoods match really hard to achieve.
I'm getting a scum with TMI vibe from this.

And there's really nothing in their ISO that gives me unequivocal townvibes. I was looking back fireisred's posts about her neighbors and it struck me that she's been suspicious of/shaded every one of them over the last nearly 3 days.

vote: Sunflower
Hasn't Dannflor said the same thing multiple times?

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Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:48 pm

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In post 2100, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2084, morph the cat wrote: My main impression of Firebagel, besides liking their cheekiness, is that in this playerlist they give me LHF feels. I have an alt guess, but I haven't actually played a game with the player I'm thinking of so I'm not putting much stock in it, other than to note that if I'm right I wouldn't can that player LHF
What resulted in bagel getting above the line in your reads list?
Her interaction with Oblivion mostly. It's one example of her not making adjustments from pushback/scumreads.

I was not townreading her before the Oblivion interaction.

If this were a smaller player list, seeing players I'm not townreading jumping on her wagon once it started would be giving me a nasty case of hives. Even with the player list size, I'm not happy about specifically how that wagon has grown.
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Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:49 pm

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In post 230, Gypyx wrote:
In post 227, Shello and Goodbye wrote: i hope theres 0 wolves in the hood i think it would be the funniest choice
i think that by flavor of this game, the hood members can probably switch around
morph, It does not seem like Sunflower was the first person to bring up that possibility
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Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:49 pm

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In post 2102, Shello and Goodbye wrote:
In post 2099, morph the cat wrote:
In post 1253, Sunflower wrote: idk i still think shell game means that there's a power to swap people in and out of the hoods

:blossom:
In post 1724, Bingle wrote:
In post 1721, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1720, Bingle wrote: Warm pup might also be scum, btw.
VOTE MEEEEEEEE
I lose my ability to rearrange hoods if I vote, which will make my wincon of making the alignments of living players in the hoods match really hard to achieve.
I'm getting a scum with TMI vibe from this.

And there's really nothing in their ISO that gives me unequivocal townvibes. I was looking back fireisred's posts about her neighbors and it struck me that she's been suspicious of/shaded every one of them over the last nearly 3 days.

vote: Sunflower
Hasn't Dannflor said the same thing multiple times?

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Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:49 pm

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In post 2014, Sunflower wrote: i think it doesn't take much of a leap to figure out that hermit crab is cabal even if you haven't read

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I can pretty much never tell who is a secret hydra until it is spelled out for me. I still don't know who Firebagel is, for instance. Except for Maria, she has a distinctive posting style that I can catch on to (though even that takes me a while)
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Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:50 pm

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In post 2104, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 230, Gypyx wrote:
In post 227, Shello and Goodbye wrote: i hope theres 0 wolves in the hood i think it would be the funniest choice
i think that by flavor of this game, the hood members can probably switch around
morph, It does not seem like Sunflower was the first person to bring up that possibility
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Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:51 pm

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At least 4 people have said something along those lines, why are you calling out sunflower for it in particular
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Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:51 pm

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that's a surprising thing for you to miss lol

it's been talked about a decent amount and it's not a particularly novel idea regardless

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Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:53 pm

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also is bingle’s claim even serious
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Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:53 pm

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In post 2060, Hermit Crab wrote: Also if Cakez is scum Dunn is also cleared because he could clearly tell for a while too
I couldn't, actually.

I am reading your hydra at face value without knowing the members
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Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:53 pm

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i also do not think shading every single other person in the hood at some point is a scum tell
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Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:54 pm

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I think it was a joke ...
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Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:54 pm

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I saw the blue hair thing but didn't remember who it was who had blue hair
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Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:55 pm

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speaking of tmi i thought it was more likely that if a scum player saw someone make an obvious joke about a role, if they knew that player was town they might be more likely to think they're being honest

originally this was a thought about csf but

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Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:55 pm

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In post 2097, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1872, Dannflor wrote: also i just have this nagging feeling that one of the people pushing action dan for the timeline inconsistency of the cop/miller thing is scum so why not firebringer
Wasn't that only me and Firebringer? And I admitted that it wasn't a smoking gun.
I thought someone else was pushing it too, idk it just seems like the type of very logic-based argument that scum tend to pursue because it looks like a freebie, except I think that argument fits your MO as town and doesn’t fit Firebringer’s so much
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Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:56 pm

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In post 2099, morph the cat wrote: I'm getting a scum with TMI vibe from this.
To be fair, I also had the idea of hood switcharoo myself at some point during pregame after learning that I was in a neighborhood with 6 people.
I don't think it's that specific of an idea for people to come up with in general.

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Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:57 pm

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In post 2098, Lukewarm wrote: You are leaning mafia on 11 people? lol
I tried making a list without a null category. Some of the reads are pretty light. It wasn't intentionally but it is pretty much split in half of who is townier and who is scummier.
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Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 12:59 pm

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I don't think everyone there is mafia, that is just where I would look, and the top half is where I would not look, except for a few names.

I don't think Klick and Sunflower are both mafia, also.
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Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 1:00 pm

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In post 2109, Sunflower wrote: that's a surprising thing for you to miss lol

it's been talked about a decent amount and it's not a particularly novel idea regardless

:blossom:
Not really. I haven't looked too hard at Gypyx yet because it's still a short iso.

You, I've been looking at and thinking about since shortly after the game started.
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Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 1:02 pm

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it sure doesn't feel like you've thought very hard

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Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 1:05 pm

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In post 2116, Dannflor wrote:
In post 2097, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1872, Dannflor wrote: also i just have this nagging feeling that one of the people pushing action dan for the timeline inconsistency of the cop/miller thing is scum so why not firebringer
Wasn't that only me and Firebringer? And I admitted that it wasn't a smoking gun.
I thought someone else was pushing it too, idk it just seems like the type of very logic-based argument that scum tend to pursue because it looks like a freebie, except I think that argument fits your MO as town and doesn’t fit Firebringer’s so much
We didn't push it as scummy, but we did point out that the most recent previous dethy game at MS had a miller(s).
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Post Post #2123 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 1:07 pm

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In post 2119, Dunnstral wrote: I don't think everyone there is mafia, that is just where I would look, and the top half is where I would not look, except for a few names.

I don't think Klick and Sunflower are both mafia, also.
I agree with this. And I think Sunflower is more likely scum.
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Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 1:08 pm

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Morph we need to talk later. Homework and house stuff first.

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