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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 4:55 am

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In post 1023, Black wrote:
In post 1016, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1013, Black wrote: {halfasleep; ketchup; Daisy; Enchant}

I think both scum are in this group
but what if there were only 1 scum
I suck at balance but I don't think 2 scum in a 14 player game makes any sense at all
You know setup open right?
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 4:56 am

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but you are right, there must be 2 scum left. this was only confirmed after seeing 2 kills 2 nights in a row though.
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 4:56 am

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it could be 1maf+1SK tho
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 4:57 am

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ok i gtg for real this time pepper me with tricky and sorting questions for when I’m back
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 5:22 am

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In post 1024, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1023, Black wrote:
In post 1016, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1013, Black wrote: {halfasleep; ketchup; Daisy; Enchant}

I think both scum are in this group
but what if there were only 1 scum
I suck at balance but I don't think 2 scum in a 14 player game makes any sense at all
didn’t you like read the setup
In post 1025, Enchant wrote:
In post 1023, Black wrote:
In post 1016, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 1013, Black wrote: {halfasleep; ketchup; Daisy; Enchant}

I think both scum are in this group
but what if there were only 1 scum
I suck at balance but I don't think 2 scum in a 14 player game makes any sense at all
You know setup open right?
Nope :lol:
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 5:27 am

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Well that's skill issue
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 6:00 am

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True
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 6:32 am

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In post 990, Black wrote:
In post 986, halfasleep wrote:
In post 978, Black wrote: Halfasleep/ketchup is my hero solve
wild
Do you think it's wild to think you two are partnered or are you just saying this about me scumreading you?
that we're partnered. there's nothing strange about you scumreading me, i am aware that i haven't been playing a great towngame but this team would make no sense even if i didn't know i was town.
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 6:36 am

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i think i still want daisy + enchant flipped today, ideally.
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 6:43 am

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In post 1032, halfasleep wrote:
In post 990, Black wrote:
In post 986, halfasleep wrote:
In post 978, Black wrote: Halfasleep/ketchup is my hero solve
wild
Do you think it's wild to think you two are partnered or are you just saying this about me scumreading you?
that we're partnered. there's nothing strange about you scumreading me, i am aware that i haven't been playing a great towngame but this team would make no sense even if i didn't know i was town.
Why doesn't it make sense?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 7:19 am

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In post 1034, Black wrote:
In post 1032, halfasleep wrote:
In post 990, Black wrote:
In post 986, halfasleep wrote:
In post 978, Black wrote: Halfasleep/ketchup is my hero solve
wild
Do you think it's wild to think you two are partnered or are you just saying this about me scumreading you?
that we're partnered. there's nothing strange about you scumreading me, i am aware that i haven't been playing a great towngame but this team would make no sense even if i didn't know i was town.
Why doesn't it make sense?
if me/thomith was the team and i therefore knew for sure that daisy is town, i'd be straight-up throwing here.
An optimist would say that I'm half-awake.
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 7:28 am

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How it's throw
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 7:31 am

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In post 967, ketchup777 wrote:
Oh really OD? You liked Imaginality’s posting? This doesn't seem to link up with what you thought in ??
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 8:03 am

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In post 1037, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 967, ketchup777 wrote:
Oh really OD? You liked Imaginality’s posting? This doesn't seem to link up with what you thought in ??
Reposting for noticeability
like =/= love, different levels innit
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 8:09 am

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like imag's posting d1 was good but it did still feel like imag could just have been passively backing up points rather than actively pushing the game in his direction. d2 was when imag switched gears and took more control imo.
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 8:17 am

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hmm yeah ok
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 8:19 am

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In post 1035, halfasleep wrote:
In post 1034, Black wrote:
In post 1032, halfasleep wrote:
In post 990, Black wrote:
In post 986, halfasleep wrote:
In post 978, Black wrote: Halfasleep/ketchup is my hero solve
wild
Do you think it's wild to think you two are partnered or are you just saying this about me scumreading you?
that we're partnered. there's nothing strange about you scumreading me, i am aware that i haven't been playing a great towngame but this team would make no sense even if i didn't know i was town.
Why doesn't it make sense?
if me/thomith was the team and i therefore knew for sure that daisy is town, i'd be straight-up throwing here.
That's not throwing. We fade town Daisy and go into a Day phase where two townies potentially die. That sets you up for a 2v3 ELO right? Doesn't seem that bad to me. Even if the SK/Vig hits you/Thomith then at least you tried to distance putting him in your PoE
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 9:02 am

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In post 1041, Black wrote:
In post 1035, halfasleep wrote:
In post 1034, Black wrote:
In post 1032, halfasleep wrote:
In post 990, Black wrote:
In post 986, halfasleep wrote:
In post 978, Black wrote: Halfasleep/ketchup is my hero solve
wild
Do you think it's wild to think you two are partnered or are you just saying this about me scumreading you?
that we're partnered. there's nothing strange about you scumreading me, i am aware that i haven't been playing a great towngame but this team would make no sense even if i didn't know i was town.
Why doesn't it make sense?
if me/thomith was the team and i therefore knew for sure that daisy is town, i'd be straight-up throwing here.
That's not throwing. We fade town Daisy and go into a Day phase where two townies potentially die. That sets you up for a 2v3 ELO right? Doesn't seem that bad to me. Even if the SK/Vig hits you/Thomith then at least you tried to distance putting him in your PoE
wrong way around. we vote after seeing who the mafia and SK/vig kill. if my poe from that post was being followed exactly (yeah not likely, but if you suggest something you're inherently risking people agreeing with you) the vig or scumhunting SK shoots daisy, then thomith is limmed in the dayphase. i'm at 4v1 the following night phase and need to survive both the vig shot and the vote to win, relying on the premise that no one would call my bluff on a pretty clumsy bus. i don't think scum!me wins that scenario unless town massively trips over its own feet.
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 11:03 am

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In post 929, halfasleep wrote:
In post 927, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 926, halfasleep wrote:
In post 925, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 924, halfasleep wrote: this is my understanding: if we don't agree or even discuss who we're voting then scum (or in an edge case masons) are the only ones coordinating their votes. there's two so scum left so that's two votes that are potentially very strong in a silent voting scenario but useless for resisting an existing consensus vote. no agreement before the vote also probably makes it easier to lie next night phase.

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oh imaginality posted while i was typing. posting anyway.
how confident are you that there are 2 scum left?
it's the most likely scenario. there is still one possible version of the setup where there's only one left, you're right.
Which version of the setup would you be referencing? And when I said scum did you take that as mafia or as mafia and SK combined? Because if we have 1 maf and 1 SK they can’t really coordinate their votes
TTTT on the setup rng. and yes i was meaning the red team not all anti-town roles combined. should've been clearer. and yeah, the scenario where there's only one mafia left has an SK so two scum by that definition.
did you mean TTTTT
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 11:11 am

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In post 1043, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 929, halfasleep wrote:
In post 927, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 926, halfasleep wrote:
In post 925, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 924, halfasleep wrote: this is my understanding: if we don't agree or even discuss who we're voting then scum (or in an edge case masons) are the only ones coordinating their votes. there's two so scum left so that's two votes that are potentially very strong in a silent voting scenario but useless for resisting an existing consensus vote. no agreement before the vote also probably makes it easier to lie next night phase.

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oh imaginality posted while i was typing. posting anyway.
how confident are you that there are 2 scum left?
it's the most likely scenario. there is still one possible version of the setup where there's only one left, you're right.
Which version of the setup would you be referencing? And when I said scum did you take that as mafia or as mafia and SK combined? Because if we have 1 maf and 1 SK they can’t really coordinate their votes
TTTT on the setup rng. and yes i was meaning the red team not all anti-town roles combined. should've been clearer. and yeah, the scenario where there's only one mafia left has an SK so two scum by that definition.
did you mean TTTTT
that does seem to be the one i meant, yes.
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 11:22 am

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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 11:36 am

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drew nightkill could also have been doctor dodging
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 12:21 pm

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Considering Black commented ( ) on which laid out the remaining setup possibilities, and agreed with my proposed plan was was based in part on the remaining possibilities, I have a super hard time believing Black's is anything other than a clumsy attempt to excuse her certainty that there are exactly two scum remaining.
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 12:22 pm

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*'which was' not 'was was'
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Sat May 04, 2024 12:25 pm

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imag, does that change your opinion on black?

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