Shell Game (Night 7)

[Bingle]

Yup.

But unless you think Cakez/morph is S/S theater I don't really get why an increasing SR on morph DOESN'T make you lose confidence in Cakez scum over BS scum.

I guess the question is: Why that thing I said?

[Bingle]

@Cakez, what is your opinion of Dann, Hermit, and morph's reactions to the deathy reveal. (Started around 564)

Not Cakez, but I finally read the dethy reveal.

Morph looks awful, Dunn actually looks decently uninformed and towny, Dann looks bored with the whole thing which... NAI, marcy looks performative as all shit, Hermit is crazy town but at this point I'd probably just sit in the corner and cry if they flipped scum anyway, and pooky is probably a townbear.

[Shello and Goodbye]

i have no idea if cakez/morph is svs ...
the read on one for me has almost no relationship to the read on the other for me right now

also like the morph read is kind of ~nebulous and not really something i'd make decisions off of right now
i don't know what your last line means

[Spiffeh]

@Bingle I drew a different conclusion than Dann in regards to the Brian Skies wagon which is why I asked him those questions. I have a lot of strong town reads on it and the only vote on Brian that looks bad is maybe Sunflower's? So his thought that Brian was being heavily bussed caught my attention and I am inquiring about it.

I also think his point that marci is trying to keep the Cakez wagon alive by questioning why it dissipated doesn't really align with the thought process that scum are heavily bussing Brian. So I want him to further explain his thought process there.

[Bingle]

i have no idea if cakez/morph is svs ...
the read on one for me has almost no relationship to the read on the other for me right now

also like the morph read is kind of ~nebulous and not really something i'd make decisions off of right now
i don't know what your last line means

The last line was asking you for that post in completely broken English.

[Bingle]

Brian 10 (Spiffeh, morph, marci, Lukewarm, Dunnstral, Sunflower, Pooky, SirCakez, Penguin, CSF)

Could you order these town to scum, Spiff?

[marcistar]

Bingle and danflor should get matching tshirts <3

[marcistar]

These past few pages really cement spiffeh town for me tbh

[Bingle]

Also, would you like my take on the answers to those as someone who agrees with Dann, or are you specifically interested in Dann's answers?

[Shello and Goodbye]

Your first post is a tacit agreement with Cakez stated concerns and your second is an "eh, I guess we can consolidate on the person I just agreed with".

Leaves a bad taste.

ooooh i get it now, you're complaining i'm agreeing with cakez abt morph but then voting cakez
i read it like four times and it didn't make sense

it's a 22 player game on day1, i don't really have an issue with agreeing with someone abt something and voting them at the same time honestly

[Bingle]

Bingle and danflor should get matching tshirts <3

[Bingle]

ooooh i get it now, you're complaining i'm agreeing with cakez abt morph but then voting cakez

It's more that you're agreeing with cakez and then voting cakez with like... no perceivable conviction. I don't get the sense you really think cakez is scum, but rather that you just decided to throw your hands up and say fuck it, maybe this flips scum. Which I think comes from town you, but also I think is something you should be aware of if it is town you doing it.

[Shello and Goodbye]

oh that's 100% what i'm doing, yes

[Shello and Goodbye]

unless there's a ~revelation i don't think i'm really going to get better reads without a flip
it's a 130p day1

i prefer cakez over brian, i can kinda see an argument for cakez scum, don't really see brian scum

i think we should flip someone

[Bingle]

btw, there was someone (pooky? probably pooky) accusing me of defending someone earlier in the game. This is what Bingle defending someone looks like.

[Shello and Goodbye]

ngl you're almost going around to white-knighting for me

[Shello and Goodbye]

who's in the 6p hood again?

[Spiffeh]

Town: {Lukewarm, Hermit Crab, Dunnstral, marcistar, Pooky, morph the cat}
Townlean: {Cat Scratch Fever, Firebringer, Firebagel}
Null: {Klick, experience/ActionDan, PenguinPower, Oblivion, SirCakez, Gypyx, STD}
Scumlean: {Dannflor, Bingle, Shello and Goodbye}
Scum: {Sunflower, Brian Skies}

Feel free to ask any questions about anything.

I had some paranoia about Dunnstral but rereading the first half of the game quelled pretty much all of those feelings. He was saying a lot of things that I was saying to myself while reading back. For example, there was an early string of marci votes from Dann, Shello, and Sunflower after she was clearly softing a PR that felt yucky to me and Dunn's 466 echoes my feeling despite my never saying anything about it. His discussion around the dethy reinforces those feelings, I think he's genuinely reacting to new information and trying figure out the best way to move forward without feeling forced or like it's being done solely to be town-read.

Klick, experience/ActionDan, and Oblivion have been demoted. Klick and experience have pretty much been non-entities, and I town-read them for very specific things they did and not for their body of work as a whole, so I'm not really comfortable keeping them as town reads in a game where I already I have so many I'm confident about. In a perfect world Sunflower will be flipped at some point which will determine if I have to devote effort to them or not.

Oblivion feels tonally Town to me but I think that I'm town-reading the play style over its actual content which is a trap I've fallen into several times in the past. And I think it was Dann who said that that a lot of its engagement feels directionless and more like busy-work vs. thoughts and feelings they believe and are pursuing, which I agree with. I understand it later mentioned being sick which could explain some of its lack of gusto, but I am not longer townreading it.

The only reason I'm not actively pushing a Sunflower elimination at this point is because I am marginally more confident that Brian is just frozen scum and with the exception of marci I am unimpressed with the entirety of that hood's content as Day 1 is drawing to a close so my confidence is shaken a tiny a bit.

I'm ending my reread with way more null reads than expected but am happy overall with the top tier of my town reads and that my strongest scum read is probably being eliminated, so that's Day 2's problem!

I owe notty a Cakez ISO that he linked me after I eat something.

[Firebringer]

ill just sheep spiffeh tooday where we at with vote counts

[Bingle]

who's in the 6p hood again?

Hermit
Dunn
Spiff
FB
Someone else

[Firebringer]

who's in the 6p hood again?

Hermit
Dunn
Spiff
FB
Someone else

yourself and cakez but u don't post there

[Spiffeh]

Oh and I think I called skitter's earlier posts "incredibly Town" far too early. I no longer feel that way. Initially she was hitting the notes I expected her to as Town by keeping me at arm's length after our time in anon-Touhou, but upon reread I don't think it's all that difficult of a thought process for scum!skitter to fake or recognize would make me town read her, especially after seeing how I've approached reading some other players in that game (i.e. Gypyx and morph).

[morph the cat]

I really want a sync with neuterhalf about now, but that's not going to happen until late tonight at the earliest, so...incoming!

[Bingle]

Firebringer

Huh?

[Shello and Goodbye]

oh, that would be super easy to fake for sure
is that what your whole read on me is based on ... ?

what are you scumreading me/us for?

~
anyways i think we should lim someone soonish, there's a ton of chaff and the more content we make the more ~dragging this is going to be

i'm kinda fine voting out anyone i'm not townreading