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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:02 pm

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In post 796, Black wrote:
In post 788, the worst wrote: There's a lot of things in my brain that I don't say out loud.

That's somewhere in my top 10 coalitions but not my top 5 lol
Why don't you like it?
Rather, what don't you like about it?
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:03 pm

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Thinking about it more I think I still have Black a tier above everyone else in the game in my head and everyone else is the soup of recency bias so every time I see any coalition that seems to combine the best guilty gear character with the best costume color you can select for her at the css screen my brain turns off and goes yeah that might win
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:04 pm

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In post 798, implosion wrote: i think putting me and tired person together in the coalition is a recipe for danger lol.

i'm not necessarily against it in principle, but i still haven't really come to see the tired person town arguments. i definitely haven't put as much energy into reading the slot as the slot deserves yet though
I don't think Cutter is as scummy as we originally thought, and tp seems pretty genuine in his thoughts
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:04 pm

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In post 794, Moros wrote: i'm hunting for teams again but i'm not sure how to stop.
This is like the sterling example of the whole "2% is useless but watching people townspew chasing 2% is useful" thing
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:04 pm

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In post 796, Black wrote:
In post 788, the worst wrote: There's a lot of things in my brain that I don't say out loud.

That's somewhere in my top 10 coalitions but not my top 5 lol
Why don't you like it?
I like it! I just don't love it. I think it might just win the game but also it seems to exclude players who im more confident about being town (Tsa + myself lol)

There's more loss vectors than my fav coalitions but I'd also not fight it all that hard
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:05 pm

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yeah i think i would actually support that coalition, in that at this moment i think i'm willing to support any coalition with me/moros/black/may. I don't actually specifically want experience on coalition right now in spite of all the everything
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:05 pm

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In post 801, May wrote: Thinking about it more I think I still have Black a tier above everyone else in the game in my head and everyone else is the soup of recency bias so every time I see any coalition that seems to combine the best guilty gear character with the best costume color you can select for her at the css screen my brain turns off and goes yeah that might win
this means a fair bit to me fwiw

the second half of this is hilarious and very clarifying
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:06 pm

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In post 752, the worst wrote: n order:
I want implo
I want tsawwa
I want tired
I want Moros

I'm comfortable with Black and May
I guess I expected you to be more ok with it since it includes 3 players you want and two players you're comfortable with
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:07 pm

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In post 802, Black wrote:
In post 798, implosion wrote: i think putting me and tired person together in the coalition is a recipe for danger lol.

i'm not necessarily against it in principle, but i still haven't really come to see the tired person town arguments. i definitely haven't put as much energy into reading the slot as the slot deserves yet though
I don't think Cutter is as scummy as we originally thought, and tp seems pretty genuine in his thoughts
Cutter just did the meme scumpost thing then lurked out tired is actually fine

I might be giving myself too much credit but I think I had cutter down to dead null during catch-up
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:07 pm

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Top 10 is fine but I'm struggling to see 5 better coalitions fypov
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:08 pm

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In post 799, the worst wrote:
In post 794, Moros wrote: i'm hunting for teams again but i'm not sure how to stop.
Who keeps appearing in teams to you? & out of the players you're nervous about as deepwolf partners, who are the threats?
i don't know the answers to your questions so i will answer a different one that is hopefully related. a more accurate description of what is happening is that i am allowing the conditional of different partners to affect how i am interpreting the play of each individual. i don't know how to stop doing that because if i want to decide if someone is scum, i have to decide if they are playing to the scum win condition. and in order to weigh up if they are, i have to consider who their partner could be.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:10 pm

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In post 807, Black wrote:
In post 752, the worst wrote: n order:
I want implo
I want tsawwa
I want tired
I want Moros

I'm comfortable with Black and May
I guess I expected you to be more ok with it since it includes 3 players you want and two players you're comfortable with
I'm confused lol

What part of "I like it but I don't love it", "probably top 10 but not top 5" doesn't align with the quote post

Pedit: ah in the abstract. It's approximate buy I think it's close. Me + my 4 favs is kind of optimal fmpov. I weakly prefer just May in to just you in (it's not a huge preference).

I really can't stress enough how fine with that coalition I am lol
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:11 pm

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I probably won't list my fav coalitions in order since that seems boring...but if that will help a lot lmk......
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:13 pm

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I have to head out for the evening but it looks like we have 1 day and 7 hours left on the deadline. It's crunch time. Everyone needs to start thinking about compromising a little

Moros, implosion and I seem to agree on: Black, May, tired person, Moros, implosion

worst is ok with it as well, which makes 4 supporters. We need one more supporter for this to go through. If we can't find one then we need to figure out what we should adjust
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:14 pm

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it's really interesting to me that the trajectory of black's thoughts has culminated in investigating the worst's response to a proposed coalition, which is the same coalition that i investigated the worst's response to a few pages ago. i think this both makes me townread black more and want the proposed coalition more.
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:15 pm

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In post 811, the worst wrote:
In post 807, Black wrote:
In post 752, the worst wrote: n order:
I want implo
I want tsawwa
I want tired
I want Moros

I'm comfortable with Black and May
I guess I expected you to be more ok with it since it includes 3 players you want and two players you're comfortable with
I'm confused lol

What part of "I like it but I don't love it", "probably top 10 but not top 5" doesn't align with the quote post

Pedit: ah in the abstract. It's approximate buy I think it's close. Me + my 4 favs is kind of optimal fmpov. I weakly prefer just May in to just you in (it's not a huge preference).

I really can't stress enough how fine with that coalition I am lol
In post 812, the worst wrote: I probably won't list my fav coalitions in order since that seems boring...but if that will help a lot lmk......
Chill lol. You're fine. I just expected you to really like it, not just like it, but that is probably on me not you
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:15 pm

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i am not sure if it means anything in actual fact reality but it feels like it means something in an astrological way.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:19 pm

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how about we all list our top 10 coalitions, and give 12 points to the first place, 10 points to the second place, 8 points to third, then one fewer point per placement down to 1 point for 10th

for the other half of the points we can ask users from the community to cast votes, average out their results so that the total number of points equals out points, and add them together

please ignore this shitpost it's just that time of year
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:20 pm

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I never chill sorry I'mma keep doing my thing

maybe I secretly want to exclude some combination of myself, may & black selfishly to drive up our nk equity but also solve together

hadn't really thought about that yet I don't think it's a meaningful bias
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:29 pm

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I lied this is actually so fun

coalitions in order is probably

1. tw/implo/tsawwa/tired/Moros (in a vacuum this just feels likely to win the game fmpov)
1a. currently tw/implo/tsawwa/tired/black for the same reason but I wasn't thinking about this earlier so that's cheating.
2. implo/tsawwa/tired/moros/may
3. implo/tsawwa/tired/moros/black
4. Implo/tsawwa/tired/black/may
5. implo/tsawwa/moros/black/may
6. implo/tired/moros/black/may
7. tsawwa/tired/moros/black/may
8. unsure rn

so it's pretty borderline
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 12:41 pm

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i think:

moros/implosion/black/may/aventurine
moros/implosion/black/may/tired person
moros/implosion/black/aventurine/tired person
moros/implosion/black/may/tsawwassen
moros/implosion/black/the worst/tsawwassen
moros/implosion/black/aventurine/tsawwassen
moros/implosion/may/aventurine/tired person
moros/implosion/may/aventurine/tsawwassen
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 1:34 pm

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anyone who isn't a coward will rank all 126 coalitions in their next post
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 1:35 pm

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t.9: the rest
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 1:49 pm

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i'm a coward but i'll do it
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Wed May 08, 2024 1:50 pm

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126: tired person, Black, Aventurine, the worst, experience

this fails 100% of the time and ends with my immediate d1 misyeet 107% of the time.

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