I just prefer the term "Unconfirmed Mason".SensFan wrote:Pretty much hits the nail on the head. "Neighbour" seems to mean "At least 1 is Scum".armlx wrote:To be honest, if Jebus had been a Neighbor not a Mason, its extremely likely I would have voted crywolf just based on role name. This is a meta issue that should probably be discussed.
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i prefer when people look at past games when making a crucial endgame decision to see that the precedent has been set for scum masons before they blindly rely on a role name to confirm that a player just can´t possibly be scum.
i still like you armlx, i´m just very, very bitter.soi soi soi
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Also about 80% chance of having a Scum in there.Natirasha wrote:
I just prefer the term "Unconfirmed Mason".SensFan wrote:
Pretty much hits the nail on the head. "Neighbour" seems to mean "At least 1 is Scum".armlx wrote:To be honest, if Jebus had been a Neighbor not a Mason, its extremely likely I would have voted crywolf just based on role name. This is a meta issue that should probably be discussed.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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fwiw, i like the setup, its just a real bummer that the game was decided based on semantics instead of play
i did have issues with the modding though, especially the lack of timely prods/replacements. the town got severely screwed by the amount of time sineish´s player slot spent in limbo.soi soi soi
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Are you bothering to read the PMs, or what I have posted. It was very clear in the role PM that innocence had nothing to do with it - you're the ones who hammered him before he claimed.Caboose wrote:
...or we could just forget that the role "Scum Mason" ever existed and not use it again.armlx wrote:To be honest, if Jebus had been a Neighbor not a Mason, its extremely likely I would have voted crywolf just based on role name. This is a meta issue that should probably be discussed.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
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Actually, it was a deadline lynch, so there wasn't really a hammer. That's not really important, but I just want to remind people of the circumstances.SensFan wrote:
Are you bothering to read the PMs, or what I have posted. It was very clear in the role PM that innocence had nothing to do with it - you're the ones who hammered him before he claimed.Caboose wrote:
...or we could just forget that the role "Scum Mason" ever existed and not use it again.armlx wrote:To be honest, if Jebus had been a Neighbor not a Mason, its extremely likely I would have voted crywolf just based on role name. This is a meta issue that should probably be discussed.Show"So I went to the librarian in the biology section and asked her if she could find me a map of the cat." -Richard Feynman
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Ah, I didn't know that about the neighbour meta. The problem still exists that Jebus could have been killed off e.g. night 1, but the trade-off makes more sense to me. The role PM was perfectly clear to me.Succinctness is pro-town.
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It was still a lynch, by the Town. Nothing I can do about that as a mod.Matt_S wrote:
Actually, it was a deadline lynch, so there wasn't really a hammer. That's not really important, but I just want to remind people of the circumstances.SensFan wrote:
Are you bothering to read the PMs, or what I have posted. It was very clear in the role PM that innocence had nothing to do with it - you're the ones who hammered him before he claimed.Caboose wrote:
...or we could just forget that the role "Scum Mason" ever existed and not use it again.armlx wrote:To be honest, if Jebus had been a Neighbor not a Mason, its extremely likely I would have voted crywolf just based on role name. This is a meta issue that should probably be discussed.
Elmo, yes, the Mason could have been NightKilled. Any Scum making a kill had twice as high a chance of being killed than of hitting the Town Mason, though...(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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if i had been in that scum group jebus would have been a dead duck at the first opportunity. him saying something about the role pm not being specific on alignment was the only way to unconfirm the mason before endgame.soi soi soi
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