My case is not baseless, my case is not based on minutiae, my case is not petty, and my case is not blown up unnaturally far.
Panzer lied. He did not lie about something minor; he lied about the reasons for a vote.
Not a random vote
, a VOTE-vote. The next person who mis-classifies Panzerjager's vote for mykonian as a random-vote will get a policy-FOS from me for obscuring the past. Both have admitted the votes were not random, so stop misleading the town by calling them random.
Lying about the reasons behind a vote is not minor, no matter what you think about the additional points I raised.
Also, did I mention that Panzer lied?
Panzerjager wrote:(bold for GIEFF to be proud)
Panzerjager wrote:GIEFF's attack on me saying random vote was deserved and honestly, I had to go check my role to see if I actually WAS scum
Buddying up to me will not convince me you are town.
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I do agree with others who have expressed suspicion at BB's hop off the wagon. I asked him in
Post 235 if he thought my original points were made less valid by my later points. He gave a wishy-washy answer in 237 and said he wasn't really all that sure about the wagon (not the reason he originally gave for unvoting), and then said this:
BeyondBirthday wrote:it is just a petty argument over, apparently, a random vote.
No, it isn't. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. IT WAS NOT A RANDOM VOTE. And the Beyond_Birthday of a few pages back agrees wholeheartedly:
Post 150
Beyond_Birthday wrote:GIEFF wrote:This is another post by you that seems to indicate you took mykonian's vote seriously. If you thought it was a joke-post, you wouldn't think he was really calling me anti-town.
You didn't realize he was trying to be funny; you thought he was really calling me anti-town. This is abundantly clear based on your past posts.
And you just lied about it.
I agree.
Beyond_Birthday wrote:Panzerjager wrote:
I knew that he meant for it to be a joke. I did NOT see it in this way.
Now this IS scummy. You knew it was meant to be a joke, but you blatantly ignored this to make a case with the assumption he did not mean it to be a joke...?
eh heh heh...NO.
Vote Panzerjager
Sure doesn't look to me like you thought it was a petty random vote when you hopped on the wagon, but I guess you thought it made a convenient excuse for jumping off, especially because the first reason you gave ("your additional points don't make sense, so I'm unvoting, ignoring your previous points") was questioned.
HoS Beyond_Birthday
. Busted.
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ting =) wrote:In no way was I implying that it was refering to all your reasons for voting Panzer - I was only commenting on the point about whether or not his using the word 'townie' was a slip.
But you said that "one word does not a concrete case make", implying that the word was my entire case. It was just a part of my overall case, which IS concrete.
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militant wrote:Are you saying you purposely made the "obvscum" comment to gather reactions?
Yes, although I was also trying to be funny.
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Zilla, have you read the entire thread yet?
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@mykonian:
Post 244
GIEFF wrote:It's ironic that you yourself are using VERY SIMILAR reasons to call me scummy that I used to call Panzer and Dourgrim scummy. You suspect me because you think that my reasons aren't valid. If they really aren't valid, then from your point of view, I could either be a confused townie who doesn't realize is logic is, or a scum trying to push a faulty wagon (i.e. "faking" logic). So what should differentiate scum-me from town-me in your eyes is whether or not I genuinely believe my logic, which is exactly what I've used to conclude that Panzer and Dourgrim are scummy. Right?
I don't think I got an answer to this. And by ironic, I think I really meant hypocritical. Either revise your own logic, or admit mine is sound; you can't have it both ways.