veerus wrote:no.. because attacking that pawn is a secondary objective.. the primary objective is to move the queen out of the way into a position where it would be useful.. and technically g6 ruins the pawn structure on the kingside if black castles there
Makes sense, but if g6 indeed ruins their pawn structure (which I'm not sure about but whatever), why not force them to play g6 by playing Qb3?
Because g6 would be likely after
Qd3
not Qb3.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
-Fight Club
At this point, we either need one of the two unvoting players (or both) to vote on a move, or someone from Qb3 needs to make the right play and swap to Qd3.
Abstract Actuary wrote:I'm still here and I still support Qb3.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
veerus wrote:So do we go on with our initial plan and capture the pawn on f5? If so, how do we deal with the discovered threat after the knight moves?
What discovered threat with the knight? Are you talking about moving the knight away so that the rook threatens our queen? The only move that would cause that to happen is Ne8, which seems pretty weak for black. I'd guess black moves d5 in response to Qxf5.
Don't all vote Qxf5 too soon. I need to run over the lines to make sure our Queen can't be trapped after ...d5.
(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record
Given a brief look, I believe they've hung their f pawn and we should take it. I disagree that it is acceptable to say that "we'll take it later anyway."
It looks like they can discover attack by moving their knight on f6 or their pawn on d7, but I don't see anything resulting from that that is better than going up a pawn. I will look into it closer, but I agree we shouldn't really jump all over it right away, until we are sure there is nothing deadly following.
But, once we do go up this pawn, we can change our in-game strategy. I believe we'll be able to openly discuss the game, as I believe we will be able to methodically just make sound moves from here on out and win in the endgame.
I'm not sure what I was thinking about the discover attack from the knight. I think I was still thinking of a scenario where black had already moved d5.
We MUST take the pawn to have any shot at equality at this point. We will be up a pawn, but down in development. A standard gambit situation. The onus will be on black to deliver. If we defend solidly, we should win the endgame. Basically what AA said.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
-Fight Club
