Scummies 2009 Nominations

LlamaFluff · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:48 am

q21 wrote:Yaw... did you miss the part where we were trying to get this thread back on topic.

Said the person not noming anyone

Third Zone

For the family guy claim... it looked really damn real

Farkshinsoup · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:24 am

In other news, when the hell is someone going to nominate the town from Mini 679 - BSG: The Basestar? We ruled!

somestrangeflea · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:26 am

Farkshinsoup wrote:In other news, when the hell is someone going to nominate the town from Mini 679 - BSG: The Basestar? We ruled!

As of the above post, never?

PokerFace · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:36 am

LlamaFluff wrote:
q21 wrote:Yaw... did you miss the part where we were trying to get this thread back on topic.
Said the person not noming anyone

Third Zone
For the family guy claim... it looked really damn real

I was just about to nom him for that but it seems three people beat me to it so

Fourth ZoneAce's nom by farside for Large Family Guy game.

farside22 · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:48 am

PokerFace wrote:
LlamaFluff wrote:
q21 wrote:Yaw... did you miss the part where we were trying to get this thread back on topic.
Said the person not noming anyone

Third Zone
For the family guy claim... it looked really damn real
I was just about to nom him for that but it seems three people beat me to it so
Fourth ZoneAce's nom by farside for Large Family Guy game.

I nom'ed Zone for best replacement but the claim was perfect as well.

PokerFace · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:16 am

Ah yes it seems I confused the noms a little. Got to stop posting while half asleep and at work

I'll third and or second both of those

since I rather liked his play there in general.

Shanba · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:18 am

I propose an award for abusing and breaking setups, to distinguish that from scumhunting, which is the paragon award.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:40 am

Shanba wrote:I propose an award for abusing and breaking setups, to distinguish that from scumhunting, which is the paragon award.

Is a person eligible for that if the setup is their own and the game was only played to prove a point that he doesn't like the way the open queue works?

Hypothetically, of course.

Shanba · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:23 am

Kmd4390 wrote:
Shanba wrote:I propose an award for abusing and breaking setups, to distinguish that from scumhunting, which is the paragon award.
Is a person eligible for that if the setup is their own and the game was only played to prove a point that he doesn't like the way the open queue works?

Hypothetically, of course.

Even if Jdodge were nominated, he would never win, and he's almost certainly not going to be nominated anyway. No, the point of this was that I heard a lot of people saying that Kinetic didn't really scumhunt, he just used the setup to win the game, which is another laudable mafia skill, but not what the paragon of mafia hunters award is for. I have no opinion on this, because I haven't read the games in question, but I think that anyway such a skill

should

be cultivated and should be rewarded.

The Fonz · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:27 am

The quirks of a setup are part of the game. I don't think we should have an award for every different way in which you can catch scum.

Shanba · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:04 pm

The Fonz wrote:The quirks of a setup are part of the game. I don't think we should have an award for every different way in which you can catch scum.

That's just the point - breaking the setup isn't catching scum! You can force a town win without ever knowing who the scum are.

Lord Gurgi · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:44 pm

Shanba wrote:
The Fonz wrote:The quirks of a setup are part of the game. I don't think we should have an award for every different way in which you can catch scum.
That's just the point - breaking the setup isn't catching scum! You can force a town win without ever knowing who the scum are.

I agree with Shanba.

Mr. Flay · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:49 pm

Breaking a setup sounds like Professor Mafia to me.

charter · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:09 pm

..But not when you create the setup so you can break it.

The Fonz · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:29 am

Shanba wrote:
The Fonz wrote:The quirks of a setup are part of the game. I don't think we should have an award for every different way in which you can catch scum.
That's just the point - breaking the setup isn't catching scum! You can force a town win without ever knowing who the scum are.

Does it result in the scum dying? If so, it falls under the umbrella of 'catching scum.'

JDodge · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:34 am

charter wrote:..But not when you create the setup so you can break it.

But when you're doing so as an experiment which acts as a catalyst in a wave of changes in the queue system as a whole?

Mr. Flay · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:41 am

charter wrote:..But not when you create the setup so you can break it.

Huh? I thought we were talking about Kinetic, not JDodge.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:41 am

Shanba wrote:
Kmd4390 wrote:
Shanba wrote:I propose an award for abusing and breaking setups, to distinguish that from scumhunting, which is the paragon award.
Is a person eligible for that if the setup is their own and the game was only played to prove a point that he doesn't like the way the open queue works?

Hypothetically, of course.
Even if Jdodge were nominated, he would never win, and he's almost certainly not going to be nominated anyway. No, the point of this was that I heard a lot of people saying that Kinetic didn't really scumhunt, he just used the setup to win the game, which is another laudable mafia skill, but not what the paragon of mafia hunters award is for. I have no opinion on this, because I haven't read the games in question, but I think that anyway such a skill
should
be cultivated and should be rewarded.

What makes you think I was talking about JDodge?

Shanba · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:43 am

WEll, for one thing, you were. For another, what's the point in pussyfooting around that?

charter · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:37 am

JDodge wrote:
charter wrote:..But not when you create the setup so you can break it.
But when you're doing so as an experiment which acts as a catalyst in a wave of changes in the queue system as a whole?

Ehh, I would still lean no.

Mr. Flay wrote:
charter wrote:..But not when you create the setup so you can break it.
Huh? I thought we were talking about Kinetic, not JDodge.

My bad, thought we had shifted to JDodge.

Elmo · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:19 am

The Fonz wrote:Does it result in the scum dying? If so, it falls under the umbrella of 'catching scum.'

If you had a hypothetical setup with a role whereby you can kill all the scum at any time by PMing the mod "go", and did so, would you have caught scum by scumhunting?

Mr. Flay · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:49 pm

Elmo wrote:If you had a hypothetical setup with a role whereby you can kill all the scum at any time by PMing the mod "go", and didn't shoot the mod in the head, would you still be able to live with yourself??

Fixed for you.

pacman281292 · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:52 am

Nomminate farside 22 for best scene writer:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... start=2225

Raging Rabbit · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:51 pm

If it hasn't been considered for the 2008 scummies,

nomintate Crackers! for most enjoyable game.

Korts · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:17 am

Raging Rabbit wrote:If it hasn't been considered for the 2008 scummies,
nomintate Crackers! for most enjoyable game.

second

and

nominate the town of Crackers! for Best Performance by a Team (Town)