Mini 732: Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Mafia (Game Over!)

Plum · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:14 pm

Yosarian2 wrote:I think Gorrad does.

Either he just blocked the scum, or he just protected the guy the scum was about to kill, or he's the scum and he chose not to kill in order to make it look like he stopped the kill. Either way, he's the one I want to hear from.

I agree. Gorrad's up to bat (though yes, there is the remote possibility that Empking survived via the pseudo-ascetic role and that's where the scumkill went).

Gorrad · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:44 pm

I blocked Porochaz, naturally.

Porochaz · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:27 am

Hi there. Letting you know I know its day. If you have questions for me let me know, Im also looking out at anything that interests me. Gorrads jailkeep of me comes as no suprise.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:31 pm

Wow...interesting.

I highly doubt any scum would have tried to kill porochaz. So, Gorrad's jailkeep means that either Porochaz is scum, Gorrad is scum and lying, or the scum didn't submit a nightkill in order to try and mess with us. And the third one seems pretty unlikely to me.

Gorrad · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:13 pm

Given the numbers, he could have been targetted as town by scum just to reduce their odds of being lynched.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:45 pm

Gorrad wrote:Given the numbers, he could have been targetted as town by scum just to reduce their odds of being lynched.

Neah, that dosn't really make sense; yesterday, the two biggest suspects (other then the lurkerscum I caught) were you and porochaz; consdiering the scum needed two more mislynches to win as of last night, if the scum was someone else, I'd expect them to try to get both you and porochaz mislynched. There's no reason for them to try and kill someone who's likely to get lynched.

Especally since he was probably going to vote you anyway; just because he's a double voter, getting rid of him dosn't actually "reduce the scum's odds of being lynched".

Gorrad · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:12 pm

Valid points.

Vote: Porochaz

.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:20 pm

Actually...

Hmmm, let me think about this. Assume that either Gorrad or porochaz is probably scum. We lynch porochaz today. If that dosn't win us the game on the spot, I vig Gorrad tonight. He could roleblock me, but if he does, then he can't also kill at the same time (right? scum can't kill and use their ability the same night, correct?), so we'd go into tommorow with still 5 people left, giving the town 2 more lynches. Or, if we lynch porochaz and I kill Gorrad and by some bizzare chance neither of you is scum, town still gets one more lynch anyway, since there'll still be 3 people left.

Yeah, I like those odds.

Vote:Porochaz

Gorrad · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:59 pm

Works for me!

hasdgfas · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:09 pm

I would like to hear what Empking did before we end the day so quickly

Yosarian2 · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:15 pm

Oh, I agree.

I probably don't have to say this, but I obv didn't kill last night, like I said.

Empking · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:36 pm

I targetted Has.

If its between Gorrad and Porro, I'd have to say that I think Gorrad has been scummy all game and Poro hasn't.

Vote: Gorrad

Porochaz · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:18 am

Why did you target has?

Empking · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:12 am

He was one of my main suspects and he had a weaker role than Gorrad might've had and I doubted he would target me for a pro-town reason.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:50 am

Empking wrote:I targetted Has.

If its between Gorrad and Porro, I'd have to say that I think Gorrad has been scummy all game and Poro hasn't.

I would agree, but I'm not sure Gorrad-scum would have said "I roleblocked Porochaz", doing it like that would seem to guarentee his loss if so.

Anyway, it dosn't really matter. We lynch one today, I vig the other one tonight, town wins either way.

Empking · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:52 am

If Poro is lynched, I'd rather you not vig one.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:57 am

Empking wrote:If Poro is lynched, I'd rather you not vig one.

Huh?

There's 6 people left right now. If we lynch today and the scum kill tonight, and I don't vig, we go into tommorow with 4 people left. I would probably be dead, and the town would then have to lynch out of 4 people, or else no-lynch so they can get 3 people.

If we don't win the game today, then I need to vig tonight.

Empking · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:05 am

Yeah, you're right. Thought we had 5.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:08 am

Ah, ok. Yeah, there was no kill last night.

Which is actually why I tend to believe Gorrad over Porochaz at the moment, even though I was convinced Gorrad was probably scum at the end of yesterday.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:11 am

(I didn't mean to hit enter there, lol. Consider this part of the same post)

The reasn I tend to believe that Gorrad's jailkeeping prevented a kill is that it dosn't really make any sense for Gorrad to not kill just in order to get one mislynch, since now instead of 2 lynches town gets 2 lynches and a vig kill anyway.

That's just me, though. It's possible Gorrad-scum didn't think it all the way through.

In any case, I highly doubt hascow would be silly enough to try to kill the one person who can self-protect, so I'm really thinking the scum is either Porochaz or Gorrad here.

Gorrad · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:27 am

I'm still not ruling out A) You being scum or B) Scum not killing. But I think it's best odds of being Porochaz.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:53 pm

Gorrad wrote:I'm still not ruling out A) You being scum

You should, if you were paying attention to what happened yesterday.

Plum · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:47 pm

Yosarian2 wrote:
Gorrad wrote:I'm still not ruling out A) You being scum
You should, if you were paying attention to what happened yesterday.

I agree (though that 'Most Cunning Manipulator' tag . . .

). Beyond that, having read through discussion on the scenario we find ourselves in, lynching Porochaz, who appears likeliest to be scum based on Night Actions, and I'm perfectly fine with the odds we have should we lynch Porochaz now. If he's not scum, Gorrad probably is, and if neither are scum (unlikely) we still have one more lynch. I believe this will be the third vote on Porochaz - and with six alive it should be four to lynch.

Vote: Porochaz

Empking · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:01 pm

Whether we vote Poro or Gorrad doesn't really matter today, does it.

Apart from the fact that Gorrad would be able to roleblock Yos or scumyos could claim to be roleblocked by Gorrad.

I like my vote.

Porochaz · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:34 am

Im starting to get the horrid feeling Gorrad isnt scum. You guys have gone on the assumption that it must be one of us and we both have gone on about how its each other. Lynch me, by all means if you think Im scum but before someone hammers, consider the possibility that you may be giving scum an easy ride.