The thing that really shocked me, Shinnen, is that heShinnen_no_Me wrote:Hmmm... Weyouns' case just don't seem quite appealing to me. I mean, it's possible he slipped the smiley face, hence thinking that Shanba was really for a random lynch. However, I'm suspicious about Nocmen and his slip with his goal. But, didn't the mod told us the last time to stop making cases based on the PM roles? What would be different this time? Also, VP has a point there. When I read Nocmen, there are times when I get good pro-town vibes from him. However, there are other times when I smell something fishy... So, I can't really make a stance just yet based on what we have. Though, IGMEOY.
I did not prove anything about being aligned differently than the town. If you don't want to believe and try and push me to a lynch, so be it.Kairyuu wrote:As much as I hate to do this because I like the way he is playing, I mustvote: Nocmen. You proved that you were not aligned with the town during D1. Unless you can provide a good reason why we should keep you alive, I think you are the best choice.
On another note, WLC I could run with, but not Shanba. I see no reason to lynch him.
This.Shanba wrote:The thing that really shocked me, Shinnen, is that he did see the smiley... and didn't unvote! I just can't fathom...
Please read post 145 if you want the PBPA on WLC.VP Baltar wrote:I approve that message from Danny. Vote WLC
Why should you vote Shanba even though you know he was joking?
Where were you after Chief came under suspicion?
In fact, looking back at the posts, your last post on Day 1 was #142. I made a PBPA of you in post 145 and you never came back the rest of the day to answer or make any contribution to the game whatsoever.
Did no one else read post 223?Kairyuu wrote:@DDD: First off, what possessed you to reveal that you thought Emp was an investigative role? How on earth does that even comecloseto helping the town? If Nocmen can prove himself not a threat, then you're getting my vote. It's like you're going out of your way to give the scum as much of an advantage as you can.
It was DD's erratic behavior that made him double post, and that made me vote him. I think I already explained that double posting on its own isn't scummy behavior, but I think in general scum would have more reason to double post (that is, to get back on previous posts and explain things better) than town.VP Baltar wrote: PBPA on WLC
7~Random vote--null
27~OMGUS vote on Datadanne for double posting (what a crime!)--slightly scummy
Reason for double posting: I was posting a response to DDD. I was expecting it to be placed directly under DDD's post it was a response for. After posting, I noticed someone had posted in between. For clarity I added that information, and it was a good time to explain my stance on double posting a bit more since I made a comment of it before. Attacking me on double posting now is just too easy.VP Baltar wrote: 62~says he does not want a policy lynch of Data (vote remains, total votes at 3), mildly questions DDD vote plan--overall null
65~questions what will happen if data flips town, will DDD not be the next target? Says he wouldn't want it to happen if he was town or scum.Says bussing is a possibility, but highly unlikely. --wonder why bussing would be that unlikely, but null overall
66~confused as to the reason for this double post and if WLC would chastise himself for it--scummy by WLC standards
I don't know what dictionary you use to for the term 'obvscum', but I'd certainly recommend getting a new one. Datadanne at that moment was acting quite irresponsibly, and not helpful to town. Datadanne was a player in this game as much as anyone else, so I found it important to get use out of him. If that meant pressuring him by voting, I felt that necessary. Now, if I was the only one with that opinion, clearly that wouldn't help the game. Because DD wouldn't do anything differently just because there was lonely vote place on him. At that point I found lixyl the second most scummy person.VP Baltar wrote: 99~corrects player count (useful). Says he doesn't agree with DDD's approach (vote remains, only he remains at this point not even DDD is voting). Says DDD shouldn't be at L-1 early in the game and should not role claim. protown suggestion, but a safe bet considering other players had already said it. Says double posting is not a sign of scum, but then explains how it might be.--bordering on scummy
107~Tells Data to post content--null
124~defends my math slip (obvtown!), thoughts on meta (not really content), and then I will just quote this part:obvscum! simulpost with data asking for replacement, but still trying to push that rock. Asks for town to follow on a player with no real content when other discussions could have been joined (ortolan, nocumen, DDD and I all had such going), and then says that if that wagon doesn't gain momentum he'll just jump to lixyl. --most scummy post he made all gameWLC wrote:I would rather like to see more people pressure Datadanne. Perhaps if he could be put at L-3 or L-2 he would either start to talk, or would be pissed and ask for a replacement, either which is good for the game. So I'll leave my vote where it is now, and hope more people follow. Otherwise I'd change my vote to lixyl, who posts one sentence conveniently joining the most common bandwagon at that moment.
Not much to say here, I guess.VP Baltar wrote: 125~glad Data is gone (who wasn't)--null
142~unvotes Shanba because his cases are more protown. switches vote to Grimmy for lixyl actions. Apart from switching votes to someone before they posted in a game, I found it odd that that this is finally the point he would decide to switch his vote after leaving it on the basically none present Data all day.--slightly scummy
1) Because it's impossible to post comments about everything and it's often better to watch how other people argue things then get involved with every single argument. Thanks for the easy question.Nocmen wrote:@DDD: Why do you consistently only mention certain things going on in the game? Your last few posts have been short, ask one question, and ignore everything else going on in the game.
@DDD and VP: I asked this before, I want to see all of your reasons for voting WLC.
Not an asset to the town as in you know that I'm a townie but you don't think I say something useful, or as in you actually think my behavior is scummy?Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote: 2) I voted him for his sheer obliviousness, clearly he's not an asset to the town.
I think there are a few questions here you could answer. Why did you vote Grimmy before he had even posted in the game? Why did you switch your vote off of Shanba so easily if you really thought Data was scummy before he was replaced?WLC wrote:Not much to say here, I guess.VP Baltar wrote: 125~glad Data is gone (who wasn't)--null
142~unvotes Shanba because his cases are more protown. switches vote to Grimmy for lixyl actions. Apart from switching votes to someone before they posted in a game, I found it odd that that this is finally the point he would decide to switch his vote after leaving it on the basically none present Data all day.--slightly scummy
Why not both, let's go with both.WeyounsLastClone wrote:Not an asset to the town as in you know that I'm a townie but you don't think I say something useful, or as in you actually think my behavior is scummy?Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote: 2) I voted him for his sheer obliviousness, clearly he's not an asset to the town.
Actually, I did read that, and I believe I commented on it previously. Mainly I wanted to see if DDD would add anything more, and maybe help me get into what he is thinking.VP Baltar wrote:This.Shanba wrote:The thing that really shocked me, Shinnen, is that he did see the smiley... and didn't unvote! I just can't fathom...
@Nocmen
I will reprint post 233 since you don't want to look for it:
Please read post 145 if you want the PBPA on WLC.VP Baltar wrote:I approve that message from Danny. Vote WLC
Why should you vote Shanba even though you know he was joking?
Where were you after Chief came under suspicion?
In fact, looking back at the posts, your last post on Day 1 was #142. I made a PBPA of you in post 145 and you never came back the rest of the day to answer or make any contribution to the game whatsoever.
Checked his posting as well and he was active in both War of Heaven II (as he said) and Newbie 760 from the time that he disappeared in this game to the start of day 2.
If it's the first, spelling it out would ruin the effect of it, now wouldn't it? And if it was the second do you think I'd simply admit to it?Kairyuu wrote:@DDD: To start, you are acting even more irrationally than D1. Why? Is there a method to your madness, or are you just flailing wildly because you feel like it? It's starting to annoy me.
Yeah, I forgot about that (175) when I made my post; started trying to figure out where Empking would get that knowledge from. Assumed a power role and off that assumption assumed that he didn't immediately vote for Nocmen that Nocmen was clear. Removing them from the lynch pool obviously would help the town's odds to lynch correctly today and win.And in regards to your 265, go read 175. Now. It's Noc's claim to receive money based on how well the carnival is doing. Try getting your facts straight before speculating about power roles. Actually, how about this. Don't speculate about power rolesat all!
You're totally right, and I agree with you. However, I fear that we might unleash the wrath of the mod again.Kairyuu wrote: @Shinnen: Information that is already out is already out. Ignoring it now would not be playing to win. We were barred from discussing win cons further, but building cases out of previously revealed information is acceptable (I would assume).
You're also right on this. He did admit to had seen the smiley, yet he didn't unvote. Weyouns, why didn't you? I mean, were you happy with your vote, even after you saw it?Shanba wrote: The thing that really shocked me, Shinnen, is that hedidsee the smiley... and didn't unvote! I just can't fathom...