Wheel of Time Mafia: Rip in the Pattern (GAME OVER)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Absolutely not. I've already stated why gentling him is stupid. It stops us from using our specific abilities, which are far more important for the town. Spyrex is a future SK, we already went over this.

[Isacc]

Role-claim time!

I claim Aes Sedai. I'm in a pair of Aes Sedai.

Aes Sedai have several abilities in common.

We can detect Saidar.

We can all gentle a Saidin. It takes

at least

three Aes Sedai to gentle a Saidin, and they must do it at the same time.

It is not guaranteed to work.

We can also still a Saidar. It takes a minimum of two Aes Sedai to still a Saidar, and it is not guaranteed to work.

We all have specific abilities as well.

Aes Sedai are allowed to hammer townies. We are not allowed to use abilities that will lead to an innocent person's death. Voting does not count as an "ability", so we can hammer all we want. I'm not allowed to lie, but I can refuse to answer your questions all I want.

We should have you lynched just for being dumb enough to claim already.

You are a hypocrite for crying about us outing roles AND THEN OUTING YOURSELF.

Next, the only way to confirm you aren't lying about being an Aes Sedai is by outing your partner, meaning that if you are telling the truth, we have a second Aes Sedai that is endangered by your idiotic claim.

There is so much anti-town about what you just did. And your claim has very little weight to it, since none of it is confirmable and you haven't even revealed any actual abilities.

I am keeping my vote. This is just waaaay too suspicious.

I noticed that KoC and Isaac suddenly eclipsed themselves to talk in a quicktopic thread following my claim.

This is so utterly ridiculous, it doesn't even warrant a detailed response.

[Albert B. Rampage]

This is your fault you dipshit.

[SpyreX]

Awesome. Just..awesome.

Although I do have some srs questions:

1.) You are in a pair. If so, is your partner also Red Ajah or is it a mesh.

(OMG ROLEFISHING) Yes there is a reason for this question.

2.) Is there any flavor reason why gentling is not guaranteed to work but stilling is (in your PM, not in the damn series).

2.a.) Additionally, is there any reason why gentling requires THREE (more than a mason pairing) versus stilling which could be done by a pair.

3.) Is your detection the same method as Fabian - where you know its been used, but not who used it.

3.a) If so, did you also detect someone when Fabain did?

[Kairyuu]

Alright. This has been bothering me for a bit, so I had to come mention it.

The speculation about Black Ajah is stupid, and contradicts the mod's own words.

There may or may not be Aes Sedai in this game.

If they are, they will be bound to these oaths.

Note the bold.

All

Aes Sedai must follow the Three Oaths according to the mod's own words. This means that Black Ajah Aes Sedai either do not exist, or are bound by the oaths. Given that Kinetic is a good mod, and knows how to balance a setup, he would not put roles into a game that must claim scum if asked.

The logical conclusion is that there are none of the Black Ajah in the game. All Aes Sedai should be assumed town in my opinion.

That's all I came here for. Tomorrow is my last day fo school, so soon I will be able to read the thread and get caught up.

[Sajin]

I was going post exactly what Maclock just said, figures.

@ARB Have you detected the use of saidar yet? saidin?

[Albert B. Rampage]

You are a hypocrite for crying about us outing roles AND THEN OUTING YOURSELF.

And you are going to out other power roles in your moronic crusade, you overgrown goblin.

Lynch the SK. Stop outing power roles before they can get their investigation results back.

[SpyreX]

.... Kairyuu:

Part of being Black Ajah would be circumnavigating said oaths. Assuming that there is no Black Ajah is a very bad call.

Depending on if ABR actually answers my questions it may be a fundamentally bad, bad call.

That is a very bad logical conclusion.

[Kairyuu]

@Spyrex: Read what I quoted. Unless the mod is lying to us then

all

Aes Sedai will be

forced

to follow the oaths. I stand by my point.

[SpyreX]

I swear to god you're playing this far more like a lyncher than ANY kind of town power role.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Awesome. Just..awesome.

Although I do have some srs questions:

1.) You are in a pair. If so, is your partner also Red Ajah or is it a mesh.

(OMG ROLEFISHING) Yes there is a reason for this question.

2.) Is there any flavor reason why gentling is not guaranteed to work but stilling is (in your PM, not in the damn series).

2.a.) Additionally, is there any reason why gentling requires THREE (more than a mason pairing) versus stilling which could be done by a pair.

3.) Is your detection the same method as Fabian - where you know its been used, but not who used it.

3.a) If so, did you also detect someone when Fabain did?

My partner is white ajah.

Its not flavor, its game mechanic. Even if the required minimum of 3 gentlers is met for a male channeler, it is not guaranteed to work. Even if a minimum of 2 Aes Sedai use their stilling, it is not guaranteed to work. It may require more.

Stilling females = 2+. Gentling males = 3+.

I'm not answering your detection questions.

[SpyreX]

@Kairuu

OHH GOD I HAVE TO READ WHAT YOU POSTED OHH MAN

That doesn't change anything. The mod isn't lying if he says "all Aes Sedai are forced to follow the oaths" when the Black Ajah isn't even really Aes Sedai as much as Power-Wielding Darkfriends who have infiltrated the organization.

More after ABR answers my questions on why I find it highly likely that there are Aes Sedai scum.

[Shadow Knight]

What is your partner's name? Not the player, but the character. That shouldn't out him/her at all.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What is your partner's name? Not the player, but the character. That shouldn't out him/her at all.

I dunno.

[SpyreX]

...I'm surprised you chose not to answer the one that would help confirm/deny someone else, but hey, that was question #3 for a reason.

I also didn't ask what Ajah they were but.

So, thank LORD, you're partner isn't also red. Then I would be looking at a much higher chance.

But, we know there has to be at least TWO pairings of Aes Sedai. ABR / Partner by nature of Gentling can not be the only ones.

Now, Flavor wise, I could easily see there being FOUR sets of Aes Sedai. Why four you ask?

All 8 Ajahs. Yep, thats right.

I am NOT saying come out all willy nilly but be wary for this especially if we get past that mystical second pairing.

Unvote: ABR

@SK:

That is not relevant nor does it help at all. Under any circumstances. Bad question.

[Albert B. Rampage]

What is your partner's name? Not the player, but the character. That shouldn't out him/her at all.

I dunno.

Norida Sedai

[SpyreX]

Le Sigh

[Isacc]

This is your fault you dipshit.

And you are going to out other power roles in your moronic crusade, you overgrown goblin.

Lynch the SK. Stop outing power roles before they can get their investigation results back.

Wow, immature much? I didn't realize this was a pissing contest.

Did I force you to claim? No. Not in the least.

My "moronic crusade" is called scumhunting. IT'S HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED. If you don't like it, stop wasting time on petty insults and leave the site.

I am keeping my vote on you. You are anti-town, period. Even if you are your claimed role, someone of your attitude is only going to cause problems.

I'm not answering your detection questions.

Yes, Albert won't answer his detection questions because then he couldn't push for a Fabian lynch day 2. Silly Spyrex for expecting Albert to actually try and work with the town towards pro-town goals.

[Shadow Knight]

Last question, then you've got my full backing.

What is the White Ajeh ability?

Yes, I'm ignoring you spyre. Deal with it.

[Isacc]

Oh and, ABR STILL ignored the arguments I have made against his bad plan, and instead resorted to invective.

I hate children who resort to cussing and crying when they don't get their way.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Fabian claimed doctor. I have no intention of voting for him.

Isaac stfu.

[Isacc]

Fabian claimed doctor. I have no intention of voting for him.

Isaac stfu.

You should win a scummy for "Most uncooperative, anti-town player ever."

Seriously. Can we force replace him?

[Shadow Knight]

@Albert-

Last question, then you've got my full backing.

What is the White Ajeh ability?

Yes, I'm ignoring you spyre. Deal with it.

Until tomorrow

unvote

[Albert B. Rampage]

Can we force replace Isaac? He's done nothing pro-town all game but complain like a little girl who wet her panties.

Ooooh the bad guy got an important town power role. Be sad. You loser.

[Isacc]

Can we force replace Isaac? He's done nothing pro-town all game but complain like a little girl who wet her panties.

Ooooh the bad guy got an important town power role. Be sad. You loser.

Dude, I am playing the game. I questioned you, countered your arguments, and rather than playing the game YOU INSULTED ME AND IGNORED ME.

Seriously, Kinetic, this is getting out of hand.