Wheel of Time Mafia: Rip in the Pattern (GAME OVER)

[Isacc]

Mod: Please look into Albert's refusal to play the game and instead just resort to invective and ad-hominem.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I was insulted first, wtf.

[Faraday]

Ugh can we stop the petty littleinsults? Please?

Just gonna read back over the last few posts, but it makes the game less fun, so yeh knock it off.

[SpyreX]

Seriously. I'm the insane one. Lets not let the slapfight continue.

For now I dig ABR's claim. Although I have a concern that probably isn't even worth fighting about. Not the play, though.

Issac still feels town through and through.

Shadow's new fascination with parts of what the Aes Sedai do that he damn well shouldn't be asking brothers me.

We have far too many lurkers.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Honestly, I don't care what this weirdo says to me. He hasn't posted anything worthwhile all game and I have no reason to believe that he will say anything of value in the near future.

[Faraday]

So, thank LORD, you're partner isn't also red. Then I would be looking at a much higher chance.

But, we know there has to be at least TWO pairings of Aes Sedai. ABR / Partner by nature of Gentling can not be the only ones.

Now, Flavor wise, I could easily see there being FOUR sets of Aes Sedai. Why four you ask?

All 8 Ajahs. Yep, thats right.

Eh Idk about this kinda of outguessing the mod. Not writing it off, but that would make it rather easy. Still we'll see.

I also believe Albert's claim, in that he's an Aes Sedai. This raises the chances of him being town too, so definitely not considering lynching him.

[SpyreX]

Easy to ferret out one at the cost of the other 7 coming forward? I could dig it. Especially as this wouldn't do anything to eliminate the others.

Not that I am suggesting outing, just a back-of-the-head thing.

[Isacc]

I was insulted first, wtf.

Umm...not by me.

Honestly, I don't care what this weirdo says to me. He hasn't posted anything worthwhile all game and I have no reason to believe that he will say anything of value in the near future.

See, you're just being emotional and insulting. How do you justify claiming my posts haven't been "worthwhile"? They have all been original content, and I have been playing the game the same as any person can be expected to. Your attacks on me are baseless.

You on the other hand, continue to refuse to play the game, which involves proving your point and addressing others' arguments, not ignoring and insulting me.


However.

Unvote

Having sat down for dinner, and thought, I don't want to waste a lynch on you after that claim. Your attitude can be handled by Kinetic and his modpowers, and if you continue to act this way your replacement can give me another read. So for today, I'm going to let you off the hook.

But I'm still not going after Spyrex. I'm going to lynch

scum

.

I have a suspicion as to why Shadow Knight asked the question he asked, but it wouldn't be smart to say what it was. Suffice to say, I think we should leave him be on the blatant rolefishing for now, and keep it in mind for later.

And I'm going to bring my focus back to Mastermind of Sin from back on page 15. I want to know his response to my 359.

And yes, we do have too many lurkers.

[Myndrunner]

Where I come from, we call a post like Isaac's......post vomit. His reasons for unvoting have me completely vexed.....and also.....

But I'm still not going after Spyrex. I'm going to lynch scum.

How are you so sure that Spyrex is not scum?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Role-claim time!

I claim Aes Sedai. I'm in a pair of Aes Sedai.

Aes Sedai have several abilities in common.

We can detect Saidar.

We can all gentle a Saidin. It takes

at least

three Aes Sedai to gentle a Saidin, and they must do it at the same time.

It is not guaranteed to work.

We can also still a Saidar. It takes a minimum of two Aes Sedai to still a Saidar, and it is not guaranteed to work.

We all have specific abilities as well.

Aes Sedai are allowed to hammer townies. We are not allowed to use abilities that will lead to an innocent person's death. Voting does not count as an "ability", so we can hammer all we want. I'm not allowed to lie, but I can refuse to answer your questions all I want.

Ok then, this is simple. Fabian claims he can detect Saidar. You claim you can detect Saidar. We are all in the same room right now. Fabian has claimed that he detected Saidar today. Have you, ABR, detected Saidar today?

[Seraphim]

I am dubious of ABR's claim. I'm not going to refute it, however.

Unvote
Vote: Mr. Flay

Now I can focus on my other suspect.

[Mastermind of Sin]

And I'm going to bring my focus back to Mastermind of Sin from back on page 15. I want to know his response to my 359.

My response to *your* 359? Post 359 was mine...

[Isacc]

How are you so sure that Spyrex is not scum?

Have you seen his claim? There's really nothing to explain here.



Woops, MoS, my bad. I meant my 362 which was a response to your 359 lol.

[Sajin]

What is your partner's name? Not the player, but the character. That shouldn't out him/her at all.

I dunno.

What is your partner's name? Not the player, but the character. That shouldn't out him/her at all.

I dunno.

Norida Sedai

Correct me if I am wrong but did not ABR just break the 1st oath here and thus lost his powers?

[Isacc]

@Sajin: You are wrong in that Aes Sedai do not lose their powers by breaking the oaths. They are simply not allowed to break them.

However, you may be right in catching an oath-break. I guess all we can do is ask ABR to explain his reasoning for changing his answer (though, now he'll know the smart answer, unfortunately xD).

[SpyreX]

After he did that, when I sighed. Yea, that'd be why. Two plausible scenarios, neither benefit the town. However, neither would make him scum.

Thusly, what the hell good does bringing that up now do.

[Sajin]

Because if he was not penalized for it (modkill/whatever), then he is lying or at least able to lie.

[SpyreX]

And after Kinetic had chimed in there would have been ammunition. Because you're missing the other side of that coin.

Outing that at that point is not helpful. Noticing it is, but mentioning it BEFORE the hammer fell isn't.

[MrBuddyLee]

It's fairly obvious that Albert either asked his partner their rolename or looked it up in a role PM.

Correct me if I am wrong but did not ABR just break the 1st oath here and thus lost his powers?

Your eagerness to see a claimed Aes Sedai lose their power is stunning. I also note that you don't at any point accuse him of lying about his roleclaim, so clearly you believe he is Aes Sedai and you wish him ill. You're literally slavering.

You previously obsessed over an SK (borderline antitown) and tried to find out if Albert used his powers today (borderline antitown).

Looks like something good may have come of Albert's retardedness after all.

vote: Sajin

[Mr. Flay]

SpyreX: What's your character name?

[SpyreX]

I am Nudin Gaidoin - a former Tabac and Wool Farmer

[Mr. Flay]

Okay, good, thanks. Sorry for the multipart posts, I'm catching up on 4-5 pages today.

ABR:

Please explain what's the deal with the italicized 'flavor' posts? I thought they had something to do with your role, but they make no sense for a Red.

I agree with Sajin on examining ABR for lies. MBL, what makes you think the mod will wait for players to 'draw attention' to lies? If he's Black Ajah, it'll become clear pretty quickly in that context (once we get a functional mod again). "I dunno." is problematic, but post 353 is worse:.

No, we are certain that he will be an SK. All male AS become SKs.

Now, it's possible (maybe even probable) that we won't be told if ABR loses his powers. But his posts have NOT been in line with what I would expect from someone bound by the Three Oaths, i.e. parsed carefully and written with exactitude. He's shooting from the hip.

Ok then, this is simple. Fabian claims he can detect Saidar. You claim you can detect Saidar. We are all in the same room right now. Fabian has claimed that he detected Saidar today. Have you, ABR, detected Saidar today?

MoS makes sense here. ABR should answer first, then Fabian can confirm. If someone can think of a way to get both answers simultaneously without breaking the rule against codes, I'm all ears.

Kairyuu: Black Sisters in the books unswear the oaths and swear three others to prevent revealing themselves. I don't think we can rely on the first post to preclude Black Ajah from being in the game, at all.

ABR; he has no kill tonight, I GUARANTEE it. He's surely town right now, and he won't become an SK

tonight

so lynching him now does NOT save town from any negative effects, therefore you are pushing an unnecessary lynch.

Okay, I'll bite: Why are you certain of this?

Pending a count, I'm comfortable with either a ABR or SpyreX lynch today. I TOLD YOU we would get multiple claims today... I guess if we lynched SpyreX, we should try to get ABR to hammer as discussed in pregame? Not that that should be hard...

[Shadow Knight]

@Albert- if you answer my question about the white ajeh, I may be able to hand over scum or confirm 2 people. Either way its good for us.

[julienvonwolfe]

Oh fun, exact same situation as last game from day 1. And I get to ask the same questions:

...

(JVW, you may be experiencing deja vu. Don't worry, that's normal.)

Yes

It's fairly obvious that Albert either asked his partner their rolename or looked it up in a role PM.

Correct me if I am wrong but did not ABR just break the 1st oath here and thus lost his powers?

Your eagerness to see a claimed Aes Sedai lose their power is stunning. I also note that you don't at any point accuse him of lying about his roleclaim, so clearly you believe he is Aes Sedai and you wish him ill. You're literally slavering.

You previously obsessed over an SK (borderline antitown) and tried to find out if Albert used his powers today (borderline antitown).

Looks like something good may have come of Albert's retardedness after all.

vote: Sajin

I'm not sure I agree here. When I claimed Aes Sedai in the mini, people checked my posts for inconsistencies with the oaths. It's a way of testing the claim, which is pro-town.

That you're against this makes me suspicious of you.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Ok then, this is simple. Fabian claims he can detect Saidar. You claim you can detect Saidar. We are all in the same room right now. Fabian has claimed that he detected Saidar today. Have you, ABR, detected Saidar today?

MoS makes sense here. ABR should answer first, then Fabian can confirm. If someone can think of a way to get both answers simultaneously without breaking the rule against codes, I'm all ears.

There aren't two questions. Fabian has

already

claimed to have detected Saidar. I want ABR to confirm or deny this. That's all.