Nomic II - Moratorium Wins!!!

[dizardin]

P50, P51: Um, what do those commodities do? Thought any ability of it had to be included in the proposal.
P52: I'm curious to know what Empking plans to do with that 8x8 grid - play Checkers? No rules given for method to change it.
P53: I'm surprised there's a following for this rule, given the propensity of some to have no cash inflow...
P54: Not sure what this one means -- care to elaborate, farside?

Nay to P50, P51, P52
Yay to P53

P54 I'll abstain on, until we get more info.

[dizardin]

As a general note to the

Mod

, P32 is effectively dead, given that:
a) it requires 2/3 majority to pass,
b) there are 15 players at present, and
c) there are 6 votes against.

This is unfortunate, since it is my opinion that no one may have more or less than one vote unless SR1 is broken in two and then modified. Further, it guaranteed a minimum of one vote - it would suck to be unable to vote, wouldn't it?

Ah well; guess I'll have to try again another way. Bunch of proposals on the way. And, yes, I'm a rules lawyer. =)

[Juls]

@dizardin: P32 is not dead yet because votes are allowed to be changed. If nothing else changes it will go away on its expiration date.

[dizardin]

@dizardin: P32 is not dead yet because votes are allowed to be changed. If nothing else changes it will go away on its expiration date.

Hm. We've 'defeated' several proposals already. Should they remain until their expiration, then? Specifically, P10, P15, P16, P17, P20, P24, P25, P26, P27, P36, P40. Not trying to cause trouble, but figure out which way voting works.

[Nomic]

It would be 2/3 either way. If it reaches 2/3 for nay it would fail.

[Juls]

P55-P59 have been proposed

[Empking]

P50, P51: Um, what do those commodities do? Thought any ability of it had to be included in the proposal.
P52: I'm curious to know what Empking plans to do with that 8x8 grid - play Checkers? No rules given for method to change it.
P53: I'm surprised there's a following for this rule, given the propensity of some to have no cash inflow...
P54: Not sure what this one means -- care to elaborate, farside?

Nay to P50, P51, P52
Yay to P53

P54 I'll abstain on, until we get more info.

I'm pretty sure the mod dsaid to put what they do in a different proposal.

Re 52: The point of 52 is to have a limited amount of something due to the fact that everything else is limitless. I was thinking of using it as a property type board but I cared more about proposing the thing with the limit.

Nay to 54-59

[dizardin]

@Empking: Ok, sounds like the board rule is good; need some rules to make it do stuff. =)

Yay to P5

I can't believe you voted no to my proposals 55-59 -- mind sharing your thoughts?

[dizardin]

Oops, sorry, no idea how I got P5 in there...

Yay to P52

[Empking]

Yay to 58

I don't like 59 and I don't like the thought of you having three commodities when I have 0.

[popsofctown]

Nay: P9, P19, P21, P22, P23, P29, P34, P35, P38, P43, P44, P45 Yay: P12, P28 (change), P33, P37, P42, P46-59

[yabbaguy]

P48-51: Nay
P52-53: Yea
P54: Nay
P55: Yea
P56-57: Nay
P58: Yea
P59: Nay

[Lowell]

I'll vote

yes on 42

. Huzzah it passed... hilariously, I STILL don't think it helps yabba, as it only refers to NEW players. mod, a ruling?

Also I have no idea what the commodities do or mean. I'm not voting on any of them until I understand the point.

[yabbaguy]

I'm really pissed off, I try to help myself out, but I just shot myself in the gut.

[Juls]

I'll vote

yes on 42

. Huzzah it passed... hilariously, I STILL don't think it helps yabba, as it only refers to NEW players. mod, a ruling?

Also I have no idea what the commodities do or mean. I'm not voting on any of them until I understand the point.

That is correct Lowell.

[Lowell]

yabba I'd support a one-time correction for YOU personally. propose it as an amendment or something, it'll pass.

If not I'll give you 10 $$$ instead. How's that sound???

[skitzer]

Nay to P55
Nay to P56
Nay to P57
Nay to P58
Nay to P59

[Moratorium]

Yes: P45, P48, P52, P53, P56, P57, P58, P59

No: P43, P44, P46, P47, P49, P50, P51, P54, P55, P61

A few comments:

P55: There's no stipulation as to how many times this can be used (I hereby gavel 12 times on proposal 99 which states I automatically win, yay!).

P61: Anyone who isn't in the lead in money right now shouldn't be voting yes to give everyone money if they are truly playing to win.

Also, the commodities types that dizardin is proposing is exactly the kind of thing I had in mind, so if anyone was confused about commodities in general, see if you can come up with an interesting power or ability that you'd want to give to a commodity that you then can sell to other people.

And finally, we're getting close to the 25 maximum rules limit.

[Juls]

Proposals P60 and P61 have been added.

Still need corporation names from ortolan and xelada.

The following rules have passed and are now rules of the game.

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P12

[col]

Moratorium

[col]

Corporations -> Stop Stealing out of the Warehouse, Carl!

: Henceforth, Corporations with sole rights to the sale of a commodity may only acquire said commodity for use by withdrawing the purchase price from their total balance. This money is not paid back to the Corporation, but instead vanishes into thin air, which for game balance purposes will be considered a Patent Tax.

[col]

(8)animorpherv1, Moratorium, Drench, Empking, Rhinox, popsofctown, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(5)xelada, Lowell, farside22, skitzer, yabbaguy

[col]

May 4, 2009 8:25p.m. CDT

P28

[col]

Lowell

[col]

"A player may proxy her/his vote to another player at any time, for any length of time. To do this the player posts some form of ""I will proxy my vote to _____"" in the thread. To end the proxying, s/he posts ""end proxying""."

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, popsofctown, dizardin, Perpetuum, chenhsi

[col]

(2)skitzer, yabbaguy

[col]

May 5, 2009 6:23p.m. CDT

P42

[col]

yabbaguy

[col]

proposition to amend rule 4: The original: All initial players are hereby granted a one-time lump sum of 1,000 $$$. Each player may only profit from this rule one (1) time during the entire game. Revision: Upon signing up for this game, the player is granted a one-time lump sum of 1,000 $$$.

[col]

(9)Moratorium, Empking, Rhinox, Lowell, farside22, popsofctown, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(3)animorpherv1, skitzer, Perpetuum

[col]

May 6, 2009 7:24p.m. CDT

[Juls]

P52 has passed (rules page to be updated shortly).

[mrow]

P#

[col]

Author

[col]

Rule

[col]

Yays

[col]

Nays

[col]

Expires

P52

[col]

Empking

[col]

At the passing of this proposal the mod creates a blank 8x8 grid. The mod keeps it updated whenever a change is made to it.

[col]

(8)Moratorium, Empking, farside22, popsofctown, skitzer, dizardin, chenhsi, yabbaguy

[col]

(0)

[col]

May 8, 2009 1:13p.m. CDT

[dizardin]

yabba I'd support a one-time correction for YOU personally. propose it as an amendment or something, it'll pass.

If not I'll give you 10 $$$ instead. How's that sound???

Count me as a vote, too. I would hate for someone to get shafted by not being in quite early enough.

[dizardin]

I don't like 59 and I don't like the thought of you having three commodities when I have 0.

Hey, go propose three of your own! =) Seriously, just trying to put some ideas out there. If they don't pass, ah well. Just trying to be helpful.

[Empking's Alt]

Yay to 61
Nay to 60

Empking's alt is not a member of this game. Post under the correct account please.

[Empking]

Yay to 61
Nay to 60

[Moratorium]

What's the plan with this grid?