Robot Chicken Mafia - Game Over

[LlamaFluff]

I defend people who I think are town, mostly because I tend to do better at picking out town then scum. hp hit quite a few of my smaller town tells, had just about everyone who I think is scum vote him, a bandwagon pop up at the last second, and then also the VT claim which in his position, made him really obv town to me. I dont vote for people I think are town.

Interestingly enough, you are using some of the same logic that I used yesterday and the day before when I didnt vote for hp today as a reason not to vote for keir.

@Drench - Voting someone doesnt take more then about a minute. Especially when you dont back it up with anything, like you just did.

[Drench]

NO VOTE:

Write post - 30 seconds
Submit - 10 seconds
40 seconds total

VOTE:

Write post sans vote - 30 seconds
Read through thread - 2 minutes
Make educated vote - 15 seconds
Submit - 10 seconds
2 minutes 55 seconds total

Big difference between those two scenarios LF.

[EmpTyger]

Running later for work, but look like it's Jazzmyn who's Kieraen's partner.

[farside22]

vote count

:

Llama 0
EmpTyper (Jazz)
Kieran 0 votes: (no votes allowed)

Not voting
Everyone else

With 10 players it will take 6 to lynch.

Deadline May 17th, 7:41pm PST

Round and round we go. Where the channel gets changed to. No one knows.

Original Roll String: 1d72

1 72-Sided Dice: (20) = 20

[xRECKONERx]

Holy shit can we get people playing this again? It has completely died out.

vote: Llama

[LlamaFluff]

Write post sans vote - 30 seconds
Read through thread - 2 minutes
Make educated vote - 15 seconds
Submit - 10 seconds
2 minutes 55 seconds total

Well your vote still has given me no reason to belive "read thread". Also I had midterms in dynamics and differential equations friday, yet I got a vote in.

Am I right though that the only people against a kier lynch are jazz and... well... kier I guess even though he almost seems for it.

@Grim + kmd - Kier thoughts?

[Kmd4390]

@Grim + kmd - Kier thoughts?

First thought=What is the case on him?
Second thought=People seem to ready to lynch him for him to be scum (WIFOM, I know.)

Third thought=Fab seems willing to jump on any wagon provided for him.

Vote Fabian

[Jazzmyn]

Am I right though that the only people against a kier lynch are jazz and... well... kier I guess even though he almost seems for it.

It's not that I'm against a Kieraen wagon; it's that I'm against being on a wagon that has both you and EmpTyger on it. And it didn't help any that Drench jumped on belatedly.

Drench's appeal to emotion is duly noted, as is EmpTyger's continuing nonsense and general uselessness.

Llama, your 585 makes me laugh out loud, having played with you before, but do tell:

1) who have you defended because you think they're town?
2) why do you say you're better at picking out town than scum?
3) what "town tells" did hp[leaves] hit for you?
4) who are the players that you think are scum who were voting for him?
5) what do you mean about a bandwagon "popping up at the last second"? Are you surprised that the town would prefer a lynch over a no-lynch at the time and in the circumstances?
6) what was it about hp[leaves]' VT claim that "made him really obv town to you"? I don't see anything in his posts that would lead anyone to think he was "obvtown". If he was "obvtown" to you, it seems that it was because you are scum and therefore knew his alignment. I recall you calling me "obvtown" repeatedly in a previous game, when I was indeed town and you were scum. So, your words ring false in this game in light of your actions, your prior posts, and hp[leaves]' prior posts, unless you can point out some compelling evidence that he was "obvtown" based on his posts, rather than based on inside (scum) knowledge. I don't see it. Please elucidate.

My vote is still on EmpTyger and it will remain there because I feel very strongly that he is scum, but I still want to hear your explanations for your assertions, and your answers to my questions above, Llama.

Regards,
Jazz

[LlamaFluff]

1) who have you defended because you think they're town?

In this game or other games?

2) why do you say you're better at picking out town than scum?

Im much more consistant in being able to say "this person is definantly town" and having them be town. Im not bad with scum reads, but I am much more accurate with town reads, especially strong ones.

3) what "town tells" did hp[leaves] hit for you?

First his suspicions were dead on consistant, even when it would of been optimal for scum to switch or give thier top suspect. Apart from that town tell, there are really no big scum tells from him. At this stage in the game, no big scum tells is basically a town tell.

4) who are the players that you think are scum who were voting for him?

Kierian, drench are my top two picks, and you, emp, kmd are in my next few. When just about the entire wagon I would be ok with vigging, there is no way I want that lynch.

5) what do you mean about a bandwagon "popping up at the last second"? Are you surprised that the town would prefer a lynch over a no-lynch at the time and in the circumstances?

Last second wagons are very easy to kill as scum by either not posting, or just making a stalling post of wanting more information, a claim etc. I have seen one quick wagon that led to a scum lynch.

6) what was it about hp[leaves]' VT claim that "made him really obv town to you"? I don't see anything in his posts that would lead anyone to think he was "obvtown". If he was "obvtown" to you, it seems that it was because you are scum and therefore knew his alignment. I recall you calling me "obvtown" repeatedly in a previous game, when I was indeed town and you were scum. So, your words ring false in this game in light of your actions, your prior posts, and hp[leaves]' prior posts, unless you can point out some compelling evidence that he was "obvtown" based on his posts, rather than based on inside (scum) knowledge. I don't see it. Please elucidate.

One of my basic beliefs in this game is that a VT claim, when someone is guarenteed to be the lynch due to deadline is near certaintly a town claim. Scum can claim about anything and the wagon will usually stall enough for the day to just end. I have used this before when I had a town read on someone getting wagoned, and have been right when I have used it before.

Also if you are going to try and use a meta on me, at least go read some games I was town in. I have a very consistant meta, and only know one small thing that sets my play apart in different alignments. Also, you were really obv town in that game, someone would of needed to be blind not to see it.

Still, yes or no, is Kierian scum?

[xxFabianxx]

Holy shit can we get people playing this again? It has completely died out.

vote: Llama

Why that vote, when you agreed with who he wanted lynched yesterday?

@Grim + kmd - Kier thoughts?

First thought=What is the case on him?
Second thought=People seem to ready to lynch him for him to be scum (WIFOM, I know.)

Third thought=Fab seems willing to jump on any wagon provided for him.

Vote Fabian

If you were actually paying attention you'd know I posted (with arguments, my own arguments) why I wanted Kieran lynched.
I also voted for him before today for the same reasons, but after his posts today my resolve has just been strengthened.
If you were reading, you would be able to see why too.

@Jazz:
You very resolutely refuse, point blank, to change your vote.
That's definately a new one to me, for a townie, but I'm new around here so...
You refuse to lynch someone who is, in my own eyes, obviously scum, because you think EmpTyger is scum.
I haven't seen Emp come across as particularly scummy.

What you are doing when noone else is looking in Emp's direction is stalling, which is VERY bad in this game, you know you can wait out the next few hours or whatever until there is a channel flip and coast through until night, then probably rinse and repeat tomorrow.
I'll be voting for Kieraen again when I next can, if everyone can get their shit together for one or two days and get the goddamn lynch done, then when he flips scum I know where I'm coming tomorrow too.

[xRECKONERx]

Exactly. People just don't jump in on the lynch quick enough. THAT is why this game is suffering.

[LlamaFluff]

channel change go!

kierian claim now

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: Kieran

?

Is that allowed yet?

[farside22]

vote count:

Llama 0
EmpTyper 0 (no votes allowed)
Kieran 0 votes:

Not voting
Everyone else

With 10 players it will take 6 to lynch.

Deadline May 17th, 7:41pm PST

Round and round we go. Where the channel gets changed to. No one knows.

Original Roll String: 1d72

1 72-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

[xRECKONERx]

Okay.

Vote Kieran

[EmpTyger]

Vote: Kieraen

[Drench]

Vote: Kieraen

.

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Kierean

[xRECKONERx]

THREE MORE NOW

[xxFabianxx]

Vote Kieraen

[xxFabianxx]

Not three more, after mine it's just one more until hammer.

[xxFabianxx]

Just one more which will be the hammer, I should say. Whatever.

[Kieraen]

oh god. Im not a mafia. Im just very, very busy!

[Kieraen]

I was comtemplating replacing out this game due to having too much on (work, intensive german course, wedding planning for friends).

I dunno. Would it be better for me to be lynched or to replace out? I am townie, and do not want to harm the town. But im totaly aware that I have not contributed enough.

How can I persuade you I'm innocent?

[Grimmy]

Im ready to hammer Kieraen, but I wanted to give him a chance to make the claim that Llama asked for.

Grimmy
also wants to hear the claim.