Wheel of Time Mafia: Rip in the Pattern (GAME OVER)

[MrBuddyLee]

vote: Mr. Flay

[Yosarian2]

However, if the town can win with a jester still alive, then why would you ever want to lynch one? The "distraction" argument is weak.

Well...town does want a jester dead, ASAP. You don't want to let a jester get anywhere near lynch or lose; in lynch or lose, he could cost the town the game just by voting himself and letting the scum lynch him.

I still don't get how Flay decided that jester was an especally likely possibility here. The flavor justifactions are kind of a reach, IMHO.

[Slicey]

"Me, being a male channeler (even though I am town) in a game where male channelers are generally bad is probably not going to be condusive to an end game because I should have some inherent level of suspicion just based on my role. Thus, for me to win, it is better off that you kill me beforehand."

Yep.

Flay is getting this confused with being a jester.

[Mastermind of Sin]

caught up to the thread at this point, will be back sometime tonight.

[MrBuddyLee]

Flay, I just read your posts and you don't appear to be actively looking for scum. You have a ton of topic knowledge and yet the only application of it towards hunting scum has been your suspicion of Slicey, which you abandoned the instant he claimed to have been gentled.

I definitely don't think you're scumpartners with Fabian, but if there's another scumteam, you're a strong candidate. Or else you're swamped and unable to contribute more effectively, but if that's the case, you're screwing up my radar with your posts. They read as attempting to appear involved while not actually scumhunting.

[armlx]

Back from smashing people at M:tG Regionals. Read the past couple pages, need to reread the voting patterns again.

[Kinetic]

We'll drink the wine till the cup is dry,
and kiss the girls so they'll not cry,
and toss the dice until we fly
to dance with Jak o' the Shadows...

- From the Journal of Jardor Calol

The Twentieth Vote Count

Vote Count

1. (3)
   Mr. Flay - Mastermind of Sin, Slicey, MrBuddyLee
   
2. (0) fuzzylightning -
   
3. (0) MacavityLock -
   
4. (0) Seraphim -
   
5. (1)
   julienvonwolfe - Albert B. Rampage
   
6. (0) Benmage -
   
7. (0) Kairyuu -
   
8. (0) Tosarian2 -
   
9. (0) Albert B. Rampage -
   
10. (0) armlx -
    
11. (1)
    Slicey - Mr Flay
    
12. (0) Mastermind of Sin -
    
13. (0) Goatrevolt -
    
14. (0) Moratorium -
    
15. (3)
    Mufasa - Kairyuu, julienvonwolfe, SpyreX
    
16. (0) SpyreX -
    
17. (0) Oozing Golfball -
    
18. (0) Faraday -
    
19. (0) Sajin -
    
20. (0) MrBuddyLee -
    
21. (0) Kison -

Votes Required to Lynch:

11

Not Voting (14): fuzzylightning, MacavityLock, Seraphim, Benmage, Yosarian2, armlx, Slicey, Goatrevolt, Moratorium, Mufasa, OozingGolfball, Faraday, Sajin, Kison

FoS Count

1. (0) Mr. Flay -
   
2. (0) fuzzylightning -
   
3. (0) MacavityLock -
   
4. (0) Seraphim -
   
5. (0) julienvonwolfe -
   
6. (0) Benmage -
   
7. (1)
   Kairyuu - Albert B. Rampage
   
8. (0) Tosarian2 -
   
9. (1)
   Albert B. Rampage - Slicey
   
10. (0) armlx -
    
11. (0) Slicey -
    
12. (0) Mastermind of Sin -
    
13. (0) Goatrevolt -
    
14. (0) Moratorium -
    
15. (0) Mufasa -
    
16. (0) SpyreX -
    
17. (0) Oozing Golfball -
    
18. (0) Faraday -
    
19. (0) Sajin -
    
20. (0) MrBuddyLee -
    
21. (0) Kison -

Not FoSing (20): Mr. Flay, fuzzylightning, MacavityLock, Seraphim, julienvonwolfe, Benmage, Kairyuu, Yosarian2, armlx, Slicey, Mastermind of Sin, Goatrevolt, Moratorium, Mufasa, SpyreX, OozingGolfball, Faraday, Sajin, MBL, Kison

Current Deadline:

May 27, 2009 at ~11:59 PM EDT (GMT -4)

First Mod Deadline Review:

May 20, 2009 at ~11:59 PM EDT (GMT -4)

[Slicey]

ITT Kinetic fails at votals XD

MBL should be voting Flay, not me and Flay.

Correction: MBL fails at unvoting or voting in red.

[OozingGolfBall]

I'm considering voting for Flay, as most of Slicey's case against him is very noteworthy. However, I find Flay's defense with regards to the jester WIFOM quite satisfactory.

[Moratorium]

vote: Mr. Flay

Not satisfied with his responses so far, Slicey and Yosarian have put good cases together on seperate days. He's all defense, and his overall ideas on the game stand out to me as distractions more than directions.

[Mastermind of Sin]

back.

[Mr. Flay]

I'm all defense because of having no time. If I can get a decent reread of the thread done, I'll post more substance, but I haven't been on the site in two days and my connection is extremely slow tonight.

I'd appreciate not being speedlynched in the next 12 hours, kthxbye.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Anyone who tries to speedlynch you is getting my vote. I'd rather have a claim first.

[julienvonwolfe]

As for Slicey: I can understand this wagon, but at least he's actually doing something (or said that he would).

Can or can't understand the wagon?

Can. I didn't like the way he called for a vig kill. However, I like Mufasa less.


I haven't looked at the thread for the past few days - I'll make another post tonight or tomorrow after catching up.

[Albert B. Rampage]

As for Slicey: I can understand this wagon, but at least he's actually doing something (or said that he would).

Can or can't understand the wagon?

Can. I didn't like the way he called for a vig kill. However, I like Mufasa less.


I haven't looked at the thread for the past few days - I'll make another post tonight or tomorrow after catching up.

This guy is so OBVIOUSLY SCUM. MBL, your "minion obeying his forsaken overlords" applies so perfectly to this guy's behavior. julienvonwolfe is scum people.

[Benmage]

just packed up from college graduated and moved home...will catch up soon.

[SpyreX]

@ABR:

Following that train, if JVW is scum is there an "overlord" connection to follow?

I can kinda dig flay.
Personally would still love Mufasa.

[Kairyuu]

SpyreX beat me to it.

I can kinda dig flay.
Personally would still love Mufasa.

This^^

Or Slicey. Or Benmage.

[armlx]

IDK about Benmage, but the others I wouldn't be sad to see go.

[OozingGolfBall]

Anyone who tries to speedlynch you is getting my vote. I'd rather have a claim first.

Major QFT. Is there a benmage case?

[Mastermind of Sin]

SpyreX beat me to it.

I can kinda dig flay.
Personally would still love Mufasa.

This^^

Or Slicey. Or Benmage.

The difference being that Flay is actually likely scum, as opposed to random bandwagons on bad players.

[SpyreX]

Yea my wagon is random and just because he's "bad".

Busted.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I genuinely find julien ultra scummy.

[Kairyuu]

@MoS:

The difference being that Flay is actually likely scum, as opposed to random bandwagons on bad players.

Ummm. Right. Sure. Let's go with that.

Oh wait, that's right. Those three are actually scummy too.

[Benmage]

Anyone who tries to speedlynch you is getting my vote. I'd rather have a claim first.

Chillax, this sounds like one scum protecting another scum (note, I don’t think either of you are scum) double note, odd your defense of flay was some 15 mins after his post.

SpyreX beat me to it.

I can kinda dig flay.
Personally would still love Mufasa.

This^^

Or Slicey. Or Benmage.

Kairyuu you big baby quit playing so personally. What have I done scummy?

With the Mufasa vote I re-examined his votes in ISO. He gets claimed as being a useless player-style and agrees with it…lol… I haven’t really seen much scum hunting or participation from him. Though I’ve agreed with some of his little one-liners, mainly his ideas on Isaac and his doubt of Spryex gentling….which I still share similar doubt.

Looking at JVW in ISO for ABR’s attack on him. I noticed jvw questions ABR’s sincerity in possible being Black or DF because of possible lies. ABR takes this quite personally. I really don’t see any glaring scumness from him…99% by ABR seemed like an extreme statement. Sure he complains for lack of time and has been less and less helpful… Much like Mufasa.

@Kison. You FoS Kairyuu, can you expand upon this. Do you still think there may be reasons to be suspicious of him?

I don’t really know what to do with the direction of the game so perhaps some additional information from all can give us leads.

1. At this moment, are there any players that you believe are town? If so, why?
2. At this moment, are there any players that you suspect are mafia/df? If so, why?
3. Would you consider vote for no-lynching today? Why or why not?