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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:13 am

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ortolan wrote:oh, no not really, he changed his view didn't he

Sting's just been tunneling on the millers all game and has twice said "I never trust miller claims" as though overanxious to justify himself
But was Sir's first stance to the mil scum or not?
And uhm, Sir could eas change his stance as he's been in this game since the start, while Sting left. So I do not like this rea.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:13 am

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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:13 am

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Hi Bear, up there!
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:13 am

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ZazieR (475) wrote:But was Sir's first stance to the mil scum or not?
And uhm, Sir could eas change his stance as he's been in this game since the start, while Sting left. So I do not like this rea.
I do.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:15 am

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ortolan wrote:
ZazieR (475) wrote:
But was Sir's first stance to the mil scum or not?

And uhm, Sir could eas change his stance as he's been in this game since the start, while Sting left. So I do not like this rea.
I do.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:18 am

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ZazieR you post way too much to be honest.
However, there is no way your scum because of this.

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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:23 am

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See e.g. 101

Then 146, 148, 150 though.

217 is a bit of a backtrack. If he's scum I like his referring back to 178 at the end. That means better scum than I'd expect for someone with a recent join date

232 got his eye on all the millers

238 asks for no mod-kill.

Yer um if Sironigous is scum he's good at it. He's good at appearing relatively inoffensive and not doing too much and being generally friendly, not drawing attention to himself and largely commenting on irrelevancies.

Sting is just scummy.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:28 am

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What a these:
Bear wrote:Then 146, 148, 150 though.
Did you see those as scum or not?
Be, you still have not ans that.

Will check the o num soon.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:33 am

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146 is wrong but I'm just not sure it's scummy.
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:34 am

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Wow, didn't realize my vote was on anyone.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:34 am

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same for 150, 148 is kind of irrelevant
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:42 am

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Bear wrote:Sting and Zironigous and Sajin have all placed anti-town and opportunistic votes. Sting was first so I'll

Vote: Sting
Bear wrote:they are all voting for the millers for cross-confirming each other, which means at best we will simply be wasting a day/night cycle and quite possibly being two townies down.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:31 am

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do you agree with that or...?
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:35 am

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In post four eight three you say it is wrong, but not scum.
In said quotes, you think dif.

I want to hear an ex be that.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:39 am

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placing anti-town and opportunistic votes does not guarantee scum, especially when I change my mind (I know I'm good but probably not amazing enough to frequently name all 3 [presumably there are 3, perhaps not] scum players just like that). All you've quoted just looks like I've been extremely consistent to me. I called them out for it at the time and it's still the scummiest thing to me, especially in regards to finding Sting the scummiest.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:10 am

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ortolan wrote:placing anti-town and opportunistic votes does not guarantee scum, especially when I change my mind (I know I'm good but probably not amazing enough to frequently name all 3 [presumably there are 3, perhaps not] scum players just like that). All you've quoted just looks like I've been extremely consistent to me. I called them out for it at the time and it's still the scummiest thing to me, especially in regards to finding Sting the scummiest.
Well yes I voted for a miller claim. I provided my reasoning as to such, and I have yet to see you address that post. Another hole in your argument is that you yourself voted for a miler claim at one point. Was that not opportunistic by the same token?
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:13 am

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Sajin (490) wrote:you yourself voted for a miler claim at one point.
Don't quite understand you here. Do you mean voted for a miller or voted for a miller claim? I don't recall doing the former and if I did the latter I don't see how it contradicts anything I've done (and actually don't remember it, could you direct me to where?)

Can you also direct me to your reasoning which I apparently failed to address also please
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:39 am

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173 and 427.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:01 pm

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Yeah I'm going to

vote: sting


as well. He was the one I was thinking of with his annoying "miller claims = scum" nonsense. That is only true after a cop investigation.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 5:39 pm

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Sajin (492) wrote:173 and 427.
What is the relevance of 173? 427 is simply an example of you being scummy for the aforementioned reasons. You want to lynch them simply because they are claimed millers. What motivation would they have as scum to claim miller and draw attention to themselves when they don't even know if there is a cop in the setup. Also, neither of these posts show where I "asked for a miller claim".
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:11 pm

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ortolan 203 wrote:
Unvote


I don't necessarily support the MafiaSSK bandwagon, his divergent/differently phrased win condition then insistence I paraphrase mine seems legitimate.

It's not Zakeri's fault she has a PR, although it is
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Sting and Zironigous and Sajin have all placed anti-town and opportunistic votes. Sting was first so I'll

Vote: Sting
You do realize you unvoted a miller claim in your SAME post as you blanket posted, yes?

Saying whether or not there are cops in this setup is a completely WIFOM response to the argument at hand.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:55 pm

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173 was not me voting for MafiaSSK because he was a miller, it was me voting for MafiaSSK because he had a different win condition to me.
Sajin (495) wrote:Saying whether or not there are cops in this setup is a completely WIFOM response to the argument at hand.
No it isn't, because the only benefit to scum of claiming miller is if they are expecting a cop investigation and want to pre-emptively negate it. It's also not plausible ThAd and MafiaSSK just spontaneously came up with a miller claim as scum, because they are not the only people who seem to have information about other roles in their role pm, see Zakeri. Also, what is your attitude towards Sting?

Someone refresh my memory- did we have a third claimed miller at some point?
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:07 am

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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:24 am

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Bear wrote:placing anti-town and opportunistic votes does not guarantee scum, especially when I change my mind (I know I'm good but probably not amazing enough to frequently name all 3 [presumably there are 3, perhaps not] scum players just like that).
All you've quoted just looks like I've been extremely consistent to me.
I called them out for it at the time and it's still the scummiest thing to me, especially in regards to finding Sting the scummiest.
Ex this.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:26 am

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Ad wrote:Yeah I'm going to

vote: sting


as well. He was the one I was thinking of with his annoying "miller claims = scum" nonsense.
That is only true after a cop investigation.
Eh? Can you ex the bold?
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