Phables: Death Note Mafia (Game Over)

[Kise]

Point blank, he's reckless with his kills. Scum would probably leave him alive IF myk is anti-Kira.

Still, I like Llama's above post. Myk has been lying to us at most portions of the game.

Votecount
mykonian - 11 (LlamaFluff, cateraction, Kise, magnus_orion, WeyounsLastClone, Stephoscope, Starbuck, MrBuddyLee, populartajo, Kairyuu, Benmage)
ZEEnon - 3 (Kmd4390, ZazieR, Lamont_Cranston)
Lamont_Cranston - 2 (Gorrad, ortolan)
Not voting: cateraction, mykonian, Vi, Skruffs, semioldguy, Seraphim, ZEEnon, Spolium, zwetschenwasser

Light-san, please make Misa-san be quiet.

With 24 alive, it's 13 to lynch.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Scum would probably leave him alive IF myk is anti-Kira.

Try: "

Ok, Myk tell us who you are going to vig and do so NAO!

"

Carry on.

[ortolan]

Why can we not just play this with the optimal play strategy for vig claims I read recently- town nominate the scummiest person for him to vidge each day. If the scummiest person is him, he vidges himself. If he refuses, he gets lynched. That way we don't need to waste a lynch on him today. We need a new wagon imo.

[ortolan]

Also, if myk is fakeclaiming the real vig will just kill him tomorrow. Seriously, lynching him is stupid.

[ortolan]

myk don't respond to any accusations against you and get a new place for your votes please guys

[Lamont_Cranston]

Why can we not just play this with the optimal play strategy for vig claims I read recently- town nominate the scummiest person for him to vidge each day. If the scummiest person is him, he vidges himself. If he refuses, he gets lynched. That way we don't need to waste a lynch on him today. We need a new wagon imo.

There is no need for the village to nominate him for self-vig because his power will be proven in real-time according to the town's wishes.

[LlamaFluff]

Also, if myk is fakeclaiming the real vig will just kill him tomorrow. Seriously, lynching him is stupid.

I would prefer to have the vig be able to kill who they feel like. On top o that, if we lynch myk, we know a lot more and the PRs have a whole lot better idea of how to use their actions.

Im sure enough to just lynch myk today, even with his claim. Myk being the vig just does not add up.

[ZazieR]

I agree. Myko''s claim doesn''t make sense.
He has a lot of explaining to do if he is the vig.

[ortolan]

I would prefer to have the vig be able to kill who they feel like.

Ok (that person would be mykonian because he is fakeclaiming their role).

I still don't see how this lynch is optimal, regardless of the probability of mykonian lying about being the vig

[Lamont_Cranston]

I would prefer to have the vig be able to kill who they feel like.

Ok (that person would be mykonian because he is fakeclaiming their role).

Correct. Proven in real-time. He produces no day-vig we produce the rope tomorrow.

[ZazieR]

Orto and Lamont

Are you buying the claim? Yes or no is enough for now.
After Myko has explained, I''d like to hear the ''why'' if the answer is ''yes''.

[ortolan]

I'd be more inclined to think he is lying than that he is telling the truth

[Lamont_Cranston]

With Myk its hard to know whether he's lyiing or not. I think there is plenty of evidence that people have brought up that he's lying though.

[ortolan]

It's a stupid lynch though

We risk the fact he might actually be the vig whereas if he isn't he's going to die soon enough anyway. Plus we get more info from wagoning someone else to a claim. I don't like how myk hasn't voted for anyone though after his claim.

[Lamont_Cranston]

It's a stupid lynch though

We risk the fact he might actually be the vig whereas if he isn't he's going to die

soon enough

tomorrow

anyway. Plus we get more info from wagoning someone else to a claim.

/fixed

[Starbuck]

He can't even respond to defend himself until the weekend and Orto is saying for him not to do so?

[ortolan]

there's no point in him revealing more than is necessary about the rule

my approach is optimal and should be followed

[ortolan]

role*

[Skruffs]

Lynching a claimed vig is dumb: If he's a real vig, mafia will kill him. If he's mafia, the real vig will kill him. If he's an SK or fake claiming townie, BOTH groups will probably kill him.

[ZazieR]

Myko is, quite literally, on the verge of death. If he has anything to lose by claiming, I'd like to know.

Yeah obvious for this.

I agree with LC, lets hear who myk thinks is scum. I also don't think Mastin was 100% going to be the one lynched so myk definitely acted hastily. But I agree that Mastin's play was not helpful to the town. If I was the vig I'd of killed him way earlier....(Hmm thinking about being a day vig sounds to fun...kill during rvs?)

Your thoughts so far about what Myko has told about his claim, other than ''not buying''? Aka, why do you not buy it?

[ZazieR]

I also wanted to know if it was one-shot because I feel like Myk is too reckless to be vig.

Can you elaborate on this?

[ZazieR]

Myko, would you mind giving your flavor?

So you can figure out his character name? I'm against this.

Regarding this, Myko, can you perhaps explain why the kill was: ''Plugged Full of Holes''?

[ZazieR]

It's a stupid lynch though

We risk the fact he might actually be the vig whereas if he isn't he's going to die soon enough anyway. Plus we get more info from wagoning someone else to a claim. I don't like how myk hasn't voted for anyone though after his claim.

Normally, I agree. But due to the rules given in the serie regarding Death Notes, it will be a huge mystery what the scum can do and what they know. That''s why I still consider Myko as lynch.
Also, could you elaborate on the last sentence of the quote? Why don''t you like that?

[ZazieR]

Lynching a claimed vig is dumb: If he's a real vig, mafia will kill him. If he's mafia, the real vig will kill him. If he's an SK or fake claiming townie, BOTH groups will probably kill him.

What do you think he is and why?
Who do you see as suspicious and why?

[ZazieR]

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