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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:21 pm

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Nuwen wrote:
Archon wrote:I refuse to random vote to get conversation started.
Why? How else do you usually go about picking an informed minority from an uninformed majority?
?
And by not voting, do you realize that you're neutering one of the most effective tools the town has: vote history. Votes form a discernible pattern that can be used in conjunction to other scum hunting techniques. Players are also held accountable for their votes - no vote, no responsibility, no trail.

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Upon a cursory meta search, I noticed that you cast random votes in Mini 801 and Mini 785 as town. What induced the sudden change of policy?[/quote]

Random votes do nothing, as well are the usual thing to do. Usual things don't raise questions, and get the game going. Why do something orthodox and keep the game in a useless stage when you can do something unorthodox and start the conversation more quickly, and (possibly) have a better chance at analyzing players?
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:08 pm

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Was this:
TDC wrote:
vote: Archon
in response to this:
Archon wrote:I refuse to random vote to get conversation started.
?
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:36 pm

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Vote: Papa Zito

It's your turn my friend!
The more I see, the less I know
The more I'd like to let it go.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:43 pm

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MiteyMouse wrote:
Vote: Papa Zito

It's your turn my friend!
My turn?

That's two votes on me. Hmm.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:56 pm

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Papa Zito wrote:
MiteyMouse wrote:
Vote: Papa Zito

It's your turn my friend!
My turn?

That's two votes on me. Hmm.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:19 pm

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AshMC1984 wrote:Was this:
TDC wrote:
vote: Archon
in response to this:
Archon wrote:I refuse to random vote to get conversation started.
?
Pretty much.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:35 am

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Papa Zito wrote:
MiteyMouse wrote:
Vote: Papa Zito

It's your turn my friend!
My turn?

That's two votes on me. Hmm.
Insinuation without accusation or questioning? If you think MM is scummy say so.

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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:03 am

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AshMC1984 wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:
MiteyMouse wrote:
Vote: Papa Zito

It's your turn my friend!
My turn?

That's two votes on me. Hmm.
Insinuation without accusation or questioning? If you think MM is scummy say so.

Vote: Papa Zito
Observation.

There's a school of thought that the third voter on a bandwagon is likely scum. What do you think?
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:16 am

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Sorry guys, my browser flipped out. :shock:

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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:20 am

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I like how he accuses you of something and in your reply, you do it again.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:23 am

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Holy crap. Time for a reboot I guess.
TDC wrote:I like how he accuses you of something and in your reply, you do it again.
I'm at L-2 on the second page. Thoughts?
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:26 am

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I don't see anything unusual in it.
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:51 am

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Archon wrote: Random votes do nothing, as well are the usual thing to do. Usual things don't raise questions, and get the game going. Why do something orthodox and keep the game in a useless stage when you can do something unorthodox and start the conversation more quickly, and (possibly) have a better chance at analyzing players?
I don't feel like turning this into a theory disagreement. My concern is that you're now abiding by a strict policy, but haven't before. Answer my last question: Why the change from your town meta?
Papa Zito wrote: There's a school of thought that the third voter on a bandwagon is likely scum. What do you think?
Get your head out of the wiki.

I noticed that when it's raining outside, chocolate is cheaper at my local supermarket. Chocolate must be produced by rain. That type of cause-effect inference is similar to using an observation made by the wiki to predict behavior out of context. It's a lovely guise for shitty cases from scum.
Papa Zito wrote: I'm at L-2 on the second page. Thoughts?
Business as usual.
So high, so low, so many things to know.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:55 am

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Nuwen wrote:
Archon wrote: Random votes do nothing, as well are the usual thing to do. Usual things don't raise questions, and get the game going. Why do something orthodox and keep the game in a useless stage when you can do something unorthodox and start the conversation more quickly, and (possibly) have a better chance at analyzing players?
I don't feel like turning this into a theory disagreement. My concern is that you're now abiding by a strict policy, but haven't before. Answer my last question: Why the change from your town meta?
I haven't played in a few months...?
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:00 am

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Vote: Archon
So high, so low, so many things to know.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:19 am

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afatchic wrote:
Vote BloodCovenant
for posting in my game, that you was not even in. Only scum would lurk around places they are not supposed to be.
what are you talking about?
Is this... that one time, like... three months ago?

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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:23 am

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BC wrote:what are you talking about?
Is this... that one time, like... three months ago?
Yep :) I'm not holding a grudge, it just stuck out to me when i saw your name again.

Bloodcovenant what do you think about the two wagons right now (Archon, Papa Zito)
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:38 am

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well.... (sorry for the huge quotes :( )

Lotta content just for page 2... :(

I have to say, this is probably the final RVS vote, However, i feel as if that vote was optional. he didn't need to wagon on Zito, he chose to. i tend to believe that he knew there were already two votes on him, and felt obligated to put a third, and put Zito at L-2. possibly, to bring us out of the RVS, but, maybe not. either way, i don't think that's a scum-tell.

This made me giggle a lot :)
Archon wrote:
Random votes do nothing, as well are the usual thing to do. Usual things don't raise questions, and get the game going. Why do something orthodox and keep the game in a useless stage when you can do something unorthodox and start the conversation more quickly, and (possibly) have a better chance at analyzing players?
Like we're doing now? Random votes are very useful in the beginning of the game. And, in more final stages of the game, the lynch analysis, bandwagon analysis, vote hoping, inconsistent voting, and opportunistic voting are all factors taken in, when trying to analyze for a lynch in lylo, or even at day 3.
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As a town member, you are hindering yourself by not using your vote. The vote is the only power you have as a townie besides the post. By not using your vote, you are not being a productive townie.

I'm not sure if eager is the right word. I'm not eager for you to vote, i just find it strange that a member of the town would not want to use one of there two powers.

you are afraid of voting off a townie?
How can you be afraid of a mislynch this early in the game? there is no way that 5 players are going to accidentally quicklynch someone without making sure they're town.


Zito.
Papa Zito wrote:
AshMC1984 wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:
MiteyMouse wrote:
Vote: Papa Zito

It's your turn my friend!
My turn?

That's two votes on me. Hmm.
Insinuation without accusation or questioning? If you think MM is scummy say so.

Vote: Papa Zito
Observation.

There's a school of thought that the third voter on a bandwagon is likely scum. What do you think?
1. I do not understand what MM means by Zito's turn...
2. I agree with Ash.
3. Saying that it was an observation does not justify the fact that you publicly noted that he was voting you. I personally think that MM's vote was an RVS vote, and i don't want to say that it was an educated vote, but he knew what he was doing, how he technically started the first wagon.
4. I don't think that it's always the third vote on the wagon. It's usually opportunistic votes that are scummy. However the third/fourth vote on a wagon (with five to lynch) are generally the players that lurk, and post little contend and vote on the wagon. In larger games, it's harder to tell. But yes, i remotely agree with you Zito.
5. But, if you're going to say that it's just an observation, could you go in depth a little more?

I don't see anything scummy on Zito. I think the wagon is just a bad idea.
unvote
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Papa Zito wrote: I'm at L-2 on the second page. Thoughts?
we gotta get there some time.
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Archon wrote: Random votes do nothing, as well are the usual thing to do. Usual things don't raise questions, and get the game going. Why do something orthodox and keep the game in a useless stage when you can do something unorthodox and start the conversation more quickly, and (possibly) have a better chance at analyzing players?
I don't feel like turning this into a theory disagreement. My concern is that you're now abiding by a strict policy, but haven't before. Answer my last question: Why the change from your town meta?
I'm pretty sure Archon was scum in 801. He replaced out though.
Archon wrote: I haven't played in a few months...?
poor answer.
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:39 am

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I forgot to mention....

Vote: nadroj15


Give us some content please!

nadroj15 has yet to pick up his prod (sent yesterday) so I've asked Zorblag to replace him. I'm just waiting on Zorblag to pick up the replacement request.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:50 am

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dude, you almost gave me a heart attack. i thought my post was gone... but you just deleted all of those spams, nice! Thanks :D
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:51 am

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EBWOP:
unvote
then........................ :/




Vote: Zorblag


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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:58 am

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Official Vote Count:

Vote Count
2 Archon: TDC, Nuwen
0 AshMC1984:
1 BloodCovenent: afatchic
0 afatchic:
0 MiteyMouse:
1 Zorblag: BloodCovenent
0 Nuwen:
2 Papa Zito: MiteyMouse, AshMC1984
0 TDC:

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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:16 am

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I don't see anything scummy on Zito. I think the wagon is just a bad idea. unvote.
noted back-off.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:27 am

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Archon wrote:
I don't see anything scummy on Zito. I think the wagon is just a bad idea. unvote.
noted back-off.
considering my vote on him was in the RVS, and was the very first vote of the game, yes, I did back off. Why would i push a lynch on someone that i don't have a case on, or anyone for that matter.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:54 pm

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Oh sweet Zorblag is joining. This game's awesomeness meter just went up a factor of 10.
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