Stars Aligned - GAME OVER

[EriktheRed]

Oh, I forgot to mention that my night was quite silent. Obviously, then, I didn't ward.

[Magua]

Anyone who performed the ward action will have heard noise, regardless of anything else. So if you warded someone last night, there's no way to tell if you were targeted by a cultist or not.

Likewise, if you heard no noise, it is obvious you did not ward anyone.

But the key bit is, if you warded someone, we need to know who. We then know that person is not in danger of dying tonight, so they do not need to be doctored.

And, since we seem to be noise-claiming: I heard no noise.

[Datadanne]

Kise, Who did you ward?
I heard no noise.

[arelian]

From what I've gathered so far:

People who claimed to hear noise:
xxFabianxx
Drench
dramonic
arelian
Kise
Exalt

People who claimed to have not:
12Keyblade
chenhsi
jasonT1981
nhammen
JamesBond
DeathNote
EriktheRed
Magua
Datadanne

People who claimed to have warded:
Kise

May have missed some stuff, but I think that's right.

[Tuberkulos]

I heard noise.

[ZykeZero]

Interesting, I heard no noise. I am curious about how to proceed here. Are we going to lynch anyone?

[EriktheRed]

Interesting, I heard no noise. I am curious about how to proceed here. Are we going to lynch anyone?

I'm frankly shocked that no one has voted yet.

[Mastin]

Let's scum hunt!

Mastin Votes: Mastin.

I am a cultist, who plans on going serial killer as soon as I can.

FoS:
itacv2
Pim
Sajin
zwetschenwasser

----Last to confirm.

On a side note,
Hai Cephrir!
Hai Erik!
Hai Santos!
Hai Datadanne!
Hai Kise!

Did I mention that at least half of my cult buddies are within the above group? Yea, they are.

Now let's discuss that!

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I'll keep my vote on for a short while, but consider the RVS nearing it's end. One, two, maybe three more RVS posts max from me, and then we're scum hunting.

Also, ooooh, spooky, spooky! I love hearing noises!

*Twitch*
Let's fake insanities for when a doctor protects me!

[Mastin]

Blast. I hate it when my FoS's for last to confirm replace out. <_<

I strongly suspect that the noise I heard was a stalk/ward, because, hey, I'm Mastin! EVERYONE wants to kill me.

I also did not ward, of course.

[Tuberkulos]

I'm frankly shocked that no one has voted yet.

Serious votes or random votes? Why haven't you voted? Personally, I think that some sort of RVS could be beneficial right now. I don't see how this noise-claiming and ward-claiming will lead to player-related discussions. Also, 12Keyblade has voted chensi.

vote: Mastin

[sideney]

Let's scum hunt!

Mastin Votes: Mastin.

I am a cultist, who plans on going serial killer as soon as I can.

FoS:
itacv2
Pim
Sajin
zwetschenwasser

----Last to confirm.

On a side note,
Hai Cephrir!
Hai Erik!
Hai Santos!
Hai Datadanne!
Hai Kise!

Did I mention that at least half of my cult buddies are within the above group? Yea, they are.

Now let's discuss that!

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I'll keep my vote on for a short while, but consider the RVS nearing it's end. One, two, maybe three more RVS posts max from me, and then we're scum hunting.

Also, ooooh, spooky, spooky! I love hearing noises!

*Twitch*
Let's fake insanities for when a doctor protects me!

Another scum claim? I got that in my previous game and was funny.

Vote:Mastin

[Mastin]

vote: Mastin

Predictable.

Vote:Mastin

*Twitch*. (Faking insanity, here, remember?)
Now you're just bandwagoning.

Mastin Unvotes: Mastin,
Mastin Votes: Sid

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[Tuberkulos]

Oh no! I've become predictable...

Why was it though?

[dramonic]

Considering the only viable/possible action that causes insanity night 0 is stalk, I'm not sure you should claim it Mastin

Then again, you said it's a lie...

Then again, you ARE Mastin... What to do, what to do?

[Datadanne]

Then again, you ARE Mastin... What to do, what to do?

[JamesBond]

Mod wrote:

Q: It seems that the only useful actions that could be made on N0 are Equip, Ward, Craft Fetish, and Stalk.
A: This is true!

With 25 people, someone is bound to have done something else too by mistake, rules are quite complicated

Ignoring this, everyone that has not been targeted by a ward has either been craft fetished, or stalked. (Duh!). If we can figure out who has been targeted by wards, we can also figure out who has been stalked or craft fetished. That would be quite nice i think.

[JamesBond]

Everyone that have heard noise that is....

[EriktheRed]

Serious votes or random votes? Why haven't you voted? [...] Also, 12Keyblade has voted chensi.

I was thinking either type. And, yeah, I'd forgotten about that very first vote when I posted that. Sorry. I haven't voted for the same reason as everyone else, I guess; I'm too busy with the awesome theme mechanics to think about the normal ones.

I am a cultist, who plans on going serial killer as soon as I can.

You claim serial killer. But you're Mastin. Yet you've claimed scum.

... This is just going in circles.

Vote: Mastin

Also, hai!

[Magua]

With Tuberkulos, we have seven people so far who have heard noise. However, Kise warded, so may or may not have been targeted last night. So at this point, I'd say anyone with a medical kit should give serious thought to saving someone from this list:

xxFabianxx
Drench
dramonic
arelian
Exalt
Tuberkulos

Once we know who Kise warded, we may be able to remove another name from the list.

I never liked random voting. I do not know Mastin. However, I know I do not like people who claim scum, even as a joke. It strikes me as excessively anti-town; since the scum already know whether or not Mastin is scum, the only people he could be WIFOMing would be the town. Why do that?

Vote: Mastin

If my vote count is correct, this puts Mastin at L-9, so I'm quite comfortable with joining the bandwagon.

[arelian]

I'm pretty sure Mastin always starts off his game with self voting and a self scum claim. Can't really draw too much from it.

I agree we should return to the RVS though, once we figure out all the noise and stuff.

Vote: 12Keyblade

[Tuberkulos]

Have we agreed on that people should claim if they used ward last night?

[nhammen]

Night0 noise-claims:

Ward:
Kise

Noise (Ward unclaimed):
Drench
Exalt
Tuberkulos
xxFabianxx

Noise and no Ward:
arelian
dramonic
Mastin

No Noise:
12Keyblade
chenhsi
Datadanne
DeathNote
EriktheRed
JamesBond
jasonT1981
Magua
nhammen
ZykeZero

Unclaimed:
Cephrir (has only confirmed)
itacv2(has only confirmed)
Nyx (asked about fake noise claims)
Santos (has only confirmed / asked for replacement)
Sarag (wanted discussion before claiming)
semioldguy (just replaced in)
sideney (asked who got noise but never answered the question himself)

nhamen, I'm talking about first a noise claim, followed by a ward claim. I admit, it was a bit unclear.

I guess I agree with this due to the fact that Ward causes noise for the player that uses ward.

BTW, in case it isn't obvious, using ward on someone that heard noise last night, but was not involved in a Ward is useless, because they can already be targeted for death. Also, if enough people equipped resuscitation kits last night, I believe we can prevent pretty much any death. If all people that heard noise use wards on those who heard no noise, and enough people use resuscitation kits to cover all of the people that heard no noise, town will be in pretty good shape.

What stops anyone from claiming noise when there was none just to be safe ? Also warding someone creates noise and insanity so I don't think claiming either is fool proof because it's too easy to fake.

Only scum would want to misdirect town in this manner. If they claimed noise and nobody warded them, then they are insinuating that they were the target of a stalk or craft fetish. This could potentially draw resuscitation kits where none are needed. Other than this, there isn't too much of a problem. If there are enough kits in the town, this is not a problem either.

Warding only creates insanity if used twice in a row. Also, what are the problems with not being foolproof? So what if noise and insanity can be faked? I have discussed fake noise, and it is an issue, but an issue that can be mitigated. Fake insanity draws attention and makes you look more scummy. Scum would most likely avoid faking this, without explanation. As for fake warding:

They could do, but then their name would instantly come up if/when something happens to the person they said they warded.

Looking at it from that point if view then, could naming who was warded be used to set someone up for a mislynch later by a cultist?

The target would have to hear noise on a later night, for this to apply, so if everyone noise claims every night, we have no problem.


Mastin will get his own post... this is long enough already.

[Tuberkulos]

If all people that heard noise use wards on those who heard no noise, and enough people use resuscitation kits to cover all of the people that heard no noise, town will be in pretty good shape.

The people who heard no noise N0 are not in danger of being killed N1. As I see it, the people who heard noise but didn't get warded are the ones that are in danger of being NK'd N1.

[Exalt]

You can add me to the noise and NO ward list. I did nothing last night, and I heard noise. I need to catch up with everything in 4 different games, so give me a while to post something more substantial.

btw, hi dramonic glad to see you again

[nhammen]

Let's scum hunt!

Mastin Votes: Mastin.

I am a cultist, who plans on going serial killer as soon as I can.

FoS:
itacv2
Pim
Sajin
zwetschenwasser

----Last to confirm.

On a side note,
Hai Cephrir!
Hai Erik!
Hai Santos!
Hai Datadanne!
Hai Kise!

Did I mention that at least half of my cult buddies are within the above group? Yea, they are.

Now let's discuss that!

---

I'll keep my vote on for a short while, but consider the RVS nearing it's end. One, two, maybe three more RVS posts max from me, and then we're scum hunting.

Also, ooooh, spooky, spooky! I love hearing noises!

*Twitch*
Let's fake insanities for when a doctor protects me!

This is COMPLETELY unproductive to the town. STOP! This can only mislead the town. We get it: you like to start games with a Slayer's Gambit. However it causes you to dominate the discussion, thus allowing scum to hide in the bastardry that you introduce into the game.

Blast. I hate it when my FoS's for last to confirm replace out. <_<

I strongly suspect that the noise I heard was a stalk/ward, because, hey, I'm Mastin! EVERYONE wants to kill me.

I also did not ward, of course.

And this shows he really was faking that particular insanity. However, he could have been faking it to hide another.

I never liked random voting. I do not know Mastin. However, I know I do not like people who claim scum, even as a joke. It strikes me as excessively anti-town; since the scum already know whether or not Mastin is scum, the only people he could be WIFOMing would be the town. Why do that?

Vote: Mastin

If my vote count is correct, this puts Mastin at L-9, so I'm quite comfortable with joining the bandwagon.

Maybe Mastin just likes all the attention. Currently I am ignoring him, but because of his activities, and the fact that scum could hide behind this so very well, he must die before the game ends.