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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:22 am

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GIEFF wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:*facepalm*

Post 1398. Keeps up guys! :P

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You asked if he was going to ride my coattails "all game," which implies a pattern of behavior, so I looked to find this pattern, and it didn't exist.

As I asked before, don't you see why your post made it look like you assumed Cephrir was scum? I thought you just made an honest mistake. Re-read it from an outsider's perspective.
No. I think you assumed that everything i say is going to be pushing the view that Ceph is scum here. In actuality, i'm trying to ascertain whether or not that is the case, taking into account the evidence. That's what i was doing. Taking into account the evidence. It was your mistake.

But that doesnt matter. So is there any merit to going over this. We found the tell from Zach, so i'm happy. :)
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Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:23 am

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Benmage wrote:Stars aligned last post:
Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:24 pm
Cephrir wrote:Only 6 votes? Pah!

Vote: Mastin


It actually might be in the town's best interest to lynch him, lol. I know I for one will be a lot less likely to lurk if he's gone early DX
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Cephrir wrote:zzzzz(was a long one)zzzz
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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:17 pm Post subject: 5
Cephrir wrote:Present. Unexpectedly limited access these past few days, should be all set tomorrow but then again I said tomorrow once and was totally wrong so who knows.
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: 4
Cephrir wrote:Whoops, forgot, prodded. Reading a thread with Mastin in it has literally given me a headache, I'll finish tomorrow.
So she hasn’t posted here in 9 days. Two posts in a total of 14 days. Yet has posted more recently on other threads. String this chic up.
i thought Cephrir was a he? lol

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Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:25 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
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Battle Mage wrote:*facepalm*

Post 1398. Keeps up guys! :P

BM
You fail.

A badly worded post that I interpreted the same way as Gieff after he pointed it out means nothing.
you didnt interpret it at all. You just took his response, and assumed he was correct.

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Instead of continuing to bicker with you here, I'll just let the town read that post and tell you how wrong you are.
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:27 am

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What part did you not understand of BM, GIEFF, Benmage should bring their posts down, drastically?

It's impossible to catch up as it is. And most of the stuff you guys are adding is fluff (Specially BM's, he quotes entire posts to write 1 sentence, STOP)
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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:27 am

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quoth the scum ;)
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:28 am

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alexhans wrote:What part did you not understand of BM, GIEFF, Benmage should bring their posts down, drastically?

It's impossible to catch up as it is. And most of the stuff you guys are adding is fluff (Specially BM's, he quotes entire posts to write 1 sentence, STOP)
Lol quit jivin me with ur hate-mail.

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Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:30 am

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Battle Mage wrote:quoth the scum ;)
That you're not voting for.
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:33 am

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Zachrulez wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:quoth the scum ;)
That you're not voting for.
erm, check again? xD

For reference, that post was directed at you, and not Alex, OBVIOUSLY.

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Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:35 am

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Obviously your post is directly below Alex's.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:39 am

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Zachrulez wrote:Obviously your post is directly below Alex's.
I replied to Alex's post separately. And timing wise, you could have worked out that i'd been sarnath'd. But you'll cling to ANYTHING wont ya? xD

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Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:40 am

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I need to ignore Battlemage and iso him.

I don't like what I'm seeing from him at all, and I think putting together his play as a whole will shed some light on him.
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:44 am

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Zachrulez wrote:I need to ignore Battlemage and iso him.

I don't like what I'm seeing from him at all, and I think putting together his play as a whole will shed some light on him.
I think slightly different. I think, if you iso me, you will go in looking for scumtells, and when you dont find any, you'll make them up.

But, we shall see. :P

Are you voting for me yet?

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Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:45 am

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Lurker-lynch today, guys. Lurker-lynch.
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:47 am

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Iso Post 2 from Battlemage.

Thought I would remind people of this post since most of his posts after are about how Alex is scum.
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alexhans wrote:I've played with Hascow before and he was not a very active scum player... at least in that game. Maybe it was because the town had 80 % of lynchable material (Empking, Zwets, Dejkha, Wall-e and Hewitt). Anyway... If I had to kill... knowing there were no protections whatsoever... I would've killed... sensfan? Mastin? someone random that I don't know? Probably I wouldn't have had a voice in a scumteam.... :P

Anyway... 16 playing... 25 % means 4 scum. 31.25 % is 5 scum... too much...
also... the n0 kill was unstoppable.. so we should count 15 playing... 33.33 % is unlikely

What I assume:
15 mislynch 14 L-8 (scum is 50 % of a lynching waggon)
14 kill 13
13 mislynch 12 L-7 (scum is 57 % of a lynching waggon)
12 kill 11
11 mislynch 10 L-6 (scum is 66.7 % of a lynching waggon)
10 kill 9
9 mislynch 8 L-5 (scum is 80 % of a lynching waggon)

we can basically mislynch 4 times (MAX). This is going to be one LONG game...



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Debonair Danny DiPietro
Kairyuu
camn

broomhead
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jammer

Bolded I've either played with, or know by reputation.

this is funny...
I'm tempted to vote VP Baltar because he is always scum...
I'm tempted to vote Mastin for self voting...
I'm tempted to vote Kai to OMGUS... :P
I'm tempted to vote camn because she is voting her fianceé
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vote: alexhans


Obvcult. Speedlynch GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!
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New postPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:02 am (Yaw posted the first post of the game)
I'm researching who to vote...

well...
Vote broomhead
because he is probably hiding among unknown players.

Mastin posted again while I was writing this... and DDD too...
Smells....town.
But i dont get the fixation with namedropping players you know. It ain't cool, and it ain't productive. Whoever did the italicising and underlining thing at least actually achieved something. :P

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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:49 am

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Zach, what the hell. Why does it matter what BM thought of alex in his second post of the game?
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:51 am

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GIEFF wrote:Zach, what the hell. Why does it matter what BM thought of alex in his second post of the game?
He votes Alex in iso post 11, one day later.
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:55 am

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And I am making note of it because his opinion changed rather quickly.
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:10 am

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Benmage wrote:Yeah i'll slow it down, me and Gieff being over 200 posts with 4 players not even hitting 50, isn't good for business...can we decide on one lurker please
I have 51 posts(now 52), not part of the lurkers, er...
GIEFF wrote:jammer: Why did you unvote Benmage?

Is it just a coincidence you did so soon after I did?
1) Benmage Wagon broke down.
2) I agree with lurkers must talk or die.
3) It is a coincidence I did it so soon after you. I generally disagree with you. :P

@Alex
Also, if you didn't knew my suspicions before, Alex.

Let see, my suspect list is currently. Not an specific order.
Gieff, for overall weak cases with much presure and some extent misrepping.
Alex, generally for a case of SF and BM, that where both rather weak. (don't like them)
Benmage, for some "little" things day 1, listing me top-suspect with nothing.(yes, omgus)

I don't suspect BattleMage, you can't say he is extremely consistant, but I haven't found him scummy. Alex, could you put a case forward on battlemage?(as short as possible)

And with Zach, there was something in D1 that I didn't like with Zach. I'm gonna check what was off there.

Also,
@Zach, BM wasn't serious he stated later, iirc. Might be helpful to note there.

@BM
You call Alex a newb, he finished several games and iirc correct he is an IC. I can't really see that as new. :roll:
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:13 am

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There's that misrep word again. The irony is that you saying I misrep is actually a misrep, but that's neither here nor there. Your word against mine, and all that.

You strike me as still upset that I attacked you on page 2. Please, get over it. It was page 2, and there was nothing else to go on.

Which do you think is better, jammer - cases you think are weak, or no cases at all?
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:13 am

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jammer wrote:
Also,
@Zach, BM wasn't serious he stated later, iirc. Might be helpful to note there
Show me where and I'll take it into consideration.
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:42 am

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jammer wrote:
Benmage wrote:Yeah i'll slow it down, me and Gieff being over 200 posts with 4 players not even hitting 50, isn't good for business...can we decide on one lurker please
I have 51 posts(now 52), not part of the lurkers, er...
No I was not considering you or SF(haven't checked if he's over 50)

But I was talking about SpryeX, DDD, BCC and Ceph.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:49 am

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jammer wrote:
GIEFF wrote:jammer: Why did you unvote Benmage?
1) Benmage Wagon broke down.
Were you hoping to lynch Benmage with your vote for him? Is his scumminess dependent on the number of players voting for him? What do you think about Benmage now?
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:12 am

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GIEFF wrote:You strike me as still upset that I attacked you on page 2. Please, get over it. It was page 2, and there was nothing else to go on.
No. I am not suspecting you becouse you attacked me on page 2.
GIEFF wrote:Which do you think is better, jammer - cases you think are weak, or no cases at all?
It isn't that the cases are weak. It is the point you are pushing and make the cases look way more stronger then they actual are. I haven't pushed you hard on it, becouse a few things you do throw me off, mainly in the sence of "why would scum do that?".
If I start asking others to vote for you, you can be worried.

That concludes me, I'm starting to relook and iso a few players. My play has been far to passive for my own liking.
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jammer wrote:
Also,
@Zach, BM wasn't serious he stated later, iirc. Might be helpful to note there
Show me where and I'll take it into consideration.
I can't find anything. But I remember it was mentioned. I think you can better ask BM himself.
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GIEFF wrote:jammer: Why did you unvote Benmage?
1) Benmage Wagon broke down.
Were you hoping to lynch Benmage with your vote for him? Is his scumminess dependent on the number of players voting for him? What do you think about Benmage now?
Meh, I wasn't actually thinking that much forward;
No, I asked him about the analysis, he responded in a few points why I was scummy, I said why those points are really weak. And shortly after that puts me as lynch priority with a reason me "butting heads" with VP, I found that a rather weak reasoning so I voted him;
I skimmed benmage iso, he seems less scummy then I remembered him....
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:39 am

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Vote Count:


Benmage (1): SensFan
Cephrir (3): Debonair Danny DiPietro, Benmage, jammer
GIEFF (1): Kmd4390
blackcatcontract (3): Zachrulez, GIEFF, alexhans
Zachrulez (1): Battle Mage


Not Voting: Cephrir, blackcatcontract, camn, SpyreX

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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:50 am

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@Zach, could you give a top3 suspects?

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